Vaccine Dilemna; What Would You Do?

jaywills

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Hello all,

I'm at a loss at what to do here and wondering whether anyone could share their views.

I'm due to get married next year and as such we are looking at booking our honeymoon.

I'm not vaxxed.

Really do not want to be vaxxed.

Trouble is; every country (including our destination) requires a double vaxx in order to travel.

Here's the thing.

My partner is double vaxxed.

While I don't agree with it I would never tell her what to do and she made the decision to have it and I have to respect that.

So, what to do.

1. Dissapoint and call off the honeymoon, or go somewhere within the country (not quite the same)
2. Get vaxxed and just accept that this is the reality as covid passports appear the be the new norm.
3. Wait it out, skip the honeymoon this year, and hope that the covid passport thing blows over once infections come down (unlikely, I know). But then have the delayed honeymoon (which will not be the same either)

Thanks all,
 

tankasnowgod

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Hello all,

I'm at a loss at what to do here and wondering whether anyone could share their views.

I'm due to get married next year and as such we are looking at booking our honeymoon.

One YEAR out? Um, that's plenty of time to figure things out.

First, I hope you've discussed all the issues with the fake pandemic and demonvax with your partner. If you haven't, I think that will eventually be a big issue. If you have, and you both understand each other, and really do take marriage vows seriously, than moving or postponing a honeymoon shouldn't be a big deal.

Second...... why does anyone here even consider taking the demonvax? I don't like vaccine passports, but I would be more open to get some sort of "proof of vaccination" without getting a shot in my arm. Something like a CPN. You may want to search a book series called "The Paper Trip."

Personally, I wouldn't feed dollars to these beasts demanding vaccine passports. Starving them of capital is the most effective way to get change.
 
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jaywills

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6 months until the wedding; and due to the high demand for travel - things are getting booked up quickly. I'm in Europe.

We have discussed this and both understand where we are coming from. It's not black and white - she works in the public sector for instance.

But I think your right, postponing is likely the only real possibility here, thanks
 

mariantos

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Hello all,

I'm at a loss at what to do here and wondering whether anyone could share their views.

I'm due to get married next year and as such we are looking at booking our honeymoon.

I'm not vaxxed.

Really do not want to be vaxxed.

Trouble is; every country (including our destination) requires a double vaxx in order to travel.

Here's the thing.

My partner is double vaxxed.

While I don't agree with it I would never tell her what to do and she made the decision to have it and I have to respect that.

So, what to do.

1. Dissapoint and call off the honeymoon, or go somewhere within the country (not quite the same)
2. Get vaxxed and just accept that this is the reality as covid passports appear the be the new norm.
3. Wait it out, skip the honeymoon this year, and hope that the covid passport thing blows over once infections come down (unlikely, I know). But then have the delayed honeymoon (which will not be the same either)

Thanks all,

Hi, my opinion is that you should try, if you can, to discuss and choose a place in your own country where to hold the event.

I don't want to shatter your dreams, but it won't be better, at least not too soon, the dictatorship is just beginning.

If you want to do as Adam did, out of love for Eve, then you will choose the vaccine and so you "die" with her.

Peace and love be in your house, all the best!
 

Perry Staltic

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Injections don't grant freedoms, they enroll you in and bind you to an EULA that requires yearly updates (minimum). As a bonus you automatically get entered into the ADE lottery with increased odds of winning the big prize with every booster.
 

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Any ideas where would that be?

Seems like Red States in the USA are probably your best bet. Places like Texas and Florida currently have laws that make any kind of vaccine discrimination illegal.

That's where I'll make my escape when living in Canada becomes intolerable...

OP - that situation really sucks, I feel you. But if your relationship is to be strong for the years to come, then it doesn't all hinge on a perfect honeymoon. People like us (unvaxxed) are going to have to be a little more creative. As a random idea, I'd look into renting a beautiful airbnb somewhere, outdoor activities/camping, hiking, maybe something on a boat/yacht to rent, etc. I bet you'll be able to find something fantastic that isn't shut down by this draconian nonsense.
 

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This is merely an inconvenience.
A dilemma would be if you should marry or not.
 

Herbie

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The only reason a person should consider a vaccine is because it would prevent their death not so they can travel or something totally un related.

This is how it’s obvious that the vaccine is total garbage, is because people only get it for freedoms not for health reasons.
 

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1. Dissapoint and call off the honeymoon, or go somewhere within the country (not quite the same)
If I were in your shoes, I would select this option.

The outside of the box solution would be to hope the Novavax vaccine comes out early next year and get that. Yes @tankasnowgod, I know you think I'm an idiot for planning to get Novavax.
 

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I’m just reminding vaccinated people that feel safe right now because they have a “passport”... they have 6-8 months up on us (the unvaccinated/unwashed ) in terms of employment. After that, their businesses will fail because you cant fire 1/3 staff at the same time and expect things to continue moving along. Not saying our jobs aren’t replaceable, just that everything at once will effect operations in an already dying economy...These business turning down money from unvaccinated will only hurt them more. I have to say the engineering of this whole thing is brilliant.

my advice to people now is to pray for intercessions. We are in this predicament because we’ve allowed d’evils in through brainwashing and our “culture”. Most people don’t want to acknowledge the filth we’ve accumulated inside from ignorance/stupidity of living life loosely and truly make a change for God. For those that aren’t religious or spiritual, apologies for the rant
 

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Injections don't grant freedoms, they enroll you in and bind you to an EULA that requires yearly updates (minimum). As a bonus you automatically get entered into the ADE lottery with increased odds of winning the big prize with every booster.
You are completely accurate. Now, authorities say every 5 months the boosters will be required.
 

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Seems like Red States in the USA are probably your best bet. Places like Texas and Florida currently have laws that make any kind of vaccine discrimination illegal.

That's where I'll make my escape when living in Canada becomes intolerable...

OP - that situation really sucks, I feel you. But if your relationship is to be strong for the years to come, then it doesn't all hinge on a perfect honeymoon. People like us (unvaxxed) are going to have to be a little more creative. As a random idea, I'd look into renting a beautiful airbnb somewhere, outdoor activities/camping, hiking, maybe something on a boat/yacht to rent, etc. I bet you'll be able to find something fantastic that isn't shut down by this draconian nonsense.
Also South Dakota, Montana, Arizona
 

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they have 6-8 months up on us (the unvaccinated/unwashed ) in terms of employment. After that, their businesses will fail because you cant fire 1/3 staff at the same time and expect things to continue moving along. Not saying our jobs aren’t replaceable, just that everything at once will effect operations in an already dying economy...These business turning down money from unvaccinated will only hurt them more. I have to say the engineering of this whole thing is brilliant.
Yep. Small business economics will prevail.
 

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Yes @tankasnowgod, I know you think I'm an idiot for planning to get Novavax.

"Idiot" might be strong, but I still don't understand why you prefer it. It doesn't have the mRNA problems, but plenty of other issues remain, including being rushed to market, poor Absolute Risk Reduction of 0.54% (even worse than the ones currently on the market), no long term safety data, and such.

I really don't see how it's any different than the Johnson & Johnson one.

And taking it does nothing to stop vaccine mandates and passports and such. You'd still be totally complying, with a drug on their terms. Personally, I would much rather whip up my own "vaccine" in the private, and comply with that, I were to present some "vaccine proof."
 
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Its sad to see whats happening, I hope at some point there is time for a turn around

If you guys love each other talk it out and come up with a solution, if you ask me Ive seen too many people spend 20k on their lavish BS wedding and honymoon only to be divirced a year later. A honeymoon is no big deal, for real, in my opinion you can scrap ALL of that and just do something you both love together,,,,I say lay low, stay safe make good choices, its hard for ANYONE to predict the future, it could be possible that THEY may make it very painful to conduct in your life and commerce if you are not part of the game
I run a company and business has gotten strange in terms of every time I turn around someone has caught covid, yes, most of the cases I have seen resolved, some were hospitlalized, and quite a few have died
Frankly Im not sure what to believe anymore, this MAY be worse than advertized here is my reasearch based upon my age and US zip code from a sum of many sources

odds of recovery if contacting COVID 98 - 99%
odds of dying of COVID .15 - .3%
  • 1 in every 84 people in your county is currently infected with COVID-19.
  • In a group of 50 people, there is a 45% chance that at least one person has COVID-19.
  • In a group of 10 people, there is a 11% chance that at least one person has COVID-19.

Among people who are the same age, sex, and health status as you and get sick from COVID-19, the risk of hospitalization is 1.9% , the risk of requiring an ICU is 1.3% , and the risk of not surviving is 0.15%

I tried from many sources and this seems to be an average of what im finding, HOWEVER over the last few months in my real world I am talking with many people who have gotten COVID and almost supercedes these numbers, confusing

People throw the terms "fake" around here, something strange is going on for sure and people are dying as per what Ive seen IRL. IM not sure if there is some propaganda here as well and some here are living under a rock, hidden from things that are happening IRL and are just keyboard warriors cutting and pasting

I do think on some level this is a game, maybe a paradigm shift, I just dont know to what extent this will play out, but I do find something fishy about all of this, I say for now, play it safe, make smart choices find enjoyment in your life
 

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This morning, I started watching another session of the 'Corona-Ausschuss', that was started in July 2020 by Dr. Reiner Fuellmich and two other lawyers plus Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, a lung specialist (who stopped the 'swine flu pandemic' while he had the political power).

There they presented a document from the German 'Aerztekammer Nordrhein' (a physician organization in Nordrhein Westfalia, Germany). This document was about the devastating result of 90 'booster shots' in an elderly home, where there were 9 severe reactions, one death and two reanimations. There was a warning issued with regard to the booster shots and that physicians should take extreme precautions when deciding whether to give these booster shots to their patients. They extended their warning, that these booster 'vaccines' have not been approved! With signatures of two physicians, Dr. med. A Theilmeier and Dr. med. H. Hueren.

However, I just googled (google.de) and found a declaration from the same 'Aerztekammer' that there was NO death involved in the booster shots! Amazing, the dead senior must have experienced a resurrection, now the churches should become interested in this case...

I attached the German document.

And here is the website with the death dispute:


(You can probably paste the link into google translate).
 

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