Up To 75% Of Homosexual Behaviour May Be Acquired, Not Inherited

[Sobieski]

No. I became addicted to internet porn in the late 90s as a kid. That addiction only worsened when I found high-speed internet porn in the mid-2000's and never questioned it as an addiction until a few years ago.

Do you still think foods that ferment in your gut have any part to play?

 

[stargazer1111]

Do you still think foods that ferment in your gut have any part to play?

No, I think I had the causality backwards.

My porn addiction seemed to be causing my gastrointestinal problems. Addictions of all kinds lead to a downregulation of both dopamine production and dopamine receptors. Dopamine is critical for gastrointestinal function.

Quitting porn (and minimizing internet activity generally) has greatly improved my digestion. No more pain at all.

 

[Sobieski]

No, I think I had the causality backwards.

My porn addiction seemed to be causing my gastrointestinal problems. Addictions of all kinds lead to a downregulation of both dopamine production and dopamine receptors. Dopamine is critical for gastrointestinal function.

Quitting porn (and minimizing internet activity generally) has greatly improved my digestion. No more pain at all.

Interesting!

 

[Peatogenic]

It's pretty clear to me that many "psychological" emotional effects that happen to people seem to diminish after you start peating. I've read someone on roddy's facebook page saying something along the lines of, not needing to smile as much once he start peating and started being more assertive. Even myself, I feel more solid on my ground and "cooler" to some extent. I almost respect myself more when I meet new people.

Moreso, I'd be curious if any homosexual men were on this board and got any heterosexual urges after peating.

I think your hormones can justify a lot about this kind of thing. There have been many reports over at propeciahelp.com from people who suffer from post finasteride effects who all of a sudden started getting homosexual urges. The culprits could be high estrogen and low DHT. I'm sure that plays a part in that. I've even read an article about a man who decided to transition to a female after taking finasteride.

I have a theory, I think Bruce Jenner had to be on finasteride. He was pushing like, what 60 or 70 and definetely had hair loss to some extent. There's no way he wasn't taking finasteride. Later, he now decides to be a woman. He says he was like that his whole life, but he hid it.. but why did it come out now all of a sudden whne he's in his 60s? Finasteride takes away your ability to physically want sex when you see a woman, I think it puts you more into a female headspace due to the high estrogen.

I've had zero inclinations towards heterosexuality since finding Peat at al in 2012. I've used androsterone off and on, sometimes at high doses, for a couple years and zero inspiration to be hetero. I have, however, tapped more into a sense of masculinity more...i don't really know how to describe it, but a kind of vitality, assertiveness, etc.

Also, homosexuality here often gets described as a sex act or sexual preference, but it's something that affects your entire identity. Not just wanting to have sex with same sex (unless asexual), but also to love them. When I read about straight guys having gay fantasies here, this feels different than being gay.

 

[stargazer1111]

I have discovered that I can switch homosexual tendencies on and off like a light switch. It seems to involve estrogenic foods and also foods that irritate the gut. I wonder if serotonin is involved.

Potatoes and lettuce seem to be the worst offenders. Cruciferous veggies, white rice, and carrots do not seem to cause this. It's the strangest experience. When I eat "correctly" I'm only interested in women and have no desire at all for gay sex or porn. When I eat incorrectly, it switches.

I NEVER discuss this with people I know because I'm afraid of what the LGBTQ community would do to me if I actually talked about this experience since they assume that sexual orientation is predetermined and not malleable.

EDIT: Forgot to mention garlic and vinegar. These might be worse than potatoes and lettuce because they cause very bizarre, manic-like behavior, hypersexuality, and severe pain in the intestines and stomach. I avoid these like the plague.

 

[jtoro]

Stargazer 1111
So was it the porn or the endotexemia causing the symptoms?
Any new solutions?

 

[kyle]

Gays tend to have unusual and distant relationships with their fathers and were the kind of 'kitchen window kids,' not encouraged to play outside with the boys or take up boyish hobbies. Their mothers tend to be emotionally unstable and dictate the tenor of home life.

The idea behind conversion therapy is to have a fatherly figure give you some kind of validation and constructive guidance to correct some of these beliefs.

It seems somewhere along the way the transmission of an identity is usurped/damaged and then sexualized. The vector these days seems to often be porn.

Having a male rolemodel act as a fatherly surrogate that validates masculine behavior as well as offering acceptance in a loving, nonsexual way.

The therapy is banned in a number of places. And a search online reveals the incredible hostility there is to it. To dismiss the possibility of envrionmental factors isnt science but ideology.

The gut is connected to emotional health so a supportive diet would be an ideal adjunct to therapy of this sort.

 

[Peatogenic]

Gays tend to have unusual and distant relationships with their fathers and were the kind of 'kitchen window kids,' not encouraged to play outside with the boys or take up boyish hobbies. Their mothers tend to be emotionally unstable and dictate the tenor of home life.

The idea behind conversion therapy is to have a fatherly figure give you some kind of validation and constructive guidance to correct some of these beliefs.

It seems somewhere along the way the transmission of an identity is usurped/damaged and then sexualized. The vector these days seems to often be porn.

Having a male rolemodel act as a fatherly surrogate that validates masculine behavior as well as offering acceptance in a loving, nonsexual way.

The therapy is banned in a number of places. And a search online reveals the incredible hostility there is to it. To dismiss the possibility of envrionmental factors isnt science but ideology.

The gut is connected to emotional health so a supportive diet would be an ideal adjunct to therapy of this sort.

You can believe or have curiosity about non-heterosexuality being environmental without believing non-heterosexuality is unnatural. Otherwise you are implying that only negative environmental factors shape people.

The issue of sexuality is not understood yet, as much as you may want to believe it is to press your own ideology. Skimming the topic of homosexuality on this forum should reveal some confounding factors.

Also, I believe that the therapy should be banned or modified only because of the massive trauma it causes. "Patients" should not be forced and should constantly be reminded they can leave the therapy whenever they choose. Unfortunately, the shame and brainwashing often starts prior to therapy, so many of them lack the identity autonomy to even make that decision.

 

[kyle]

"issue of sexuality is not understood yet"

The fact that we were born on this earth is a rather insurmountable fact.

 

[TheBeard]

95% of people logging their Trenbolone experience online report an attraction to males/trannies.

I wonder if progesterone is involved in homosexuality, or if it is mediated by something else.

 

[Peatogenic]

95% of people logging their Trenbolone experience online report an attraction to males/trannies.

I wonder if progesterone is involved in homosexuality, or if it is mediated by something else.

And finasteride, organ transplants, dietary changes, androsterone, etc. I've been manipulating various hormones for a few years and haven't found my sexuality to change. It's understood, though, that androgen ratios are different between homosexual and heterosexual men, at least according to one study.

 

[Peatogenic]

95% of people logging their Trenbolone experience online report an attraction to males/trannies.

I wonder if progesterone is involved in homosexuality, or if it is mediated by something else.

Also, it's worth noting that gay men can be attracted to both masculine and feminine aesthetics in other men, but anecdotally/experientially at least, a higher percentage of gay men are attracted to masculine aesthetics. Additionally, it's pretty well founded that same sex orientations are naturally drawn to same sex pheremones.

 

[BrianF]

There is some kind of weird obsession with homosexuality on this board... Specifically with trying to show that it's unnatural or abnormal. What gives? I'm not sure what this sort of study is supposed to accomplish? Would you post something that shows that Jewish people are more likely to be autistic or that African Americans are more likely to be born with autoimmune conditions because their mothers smoked crack? No. You wouldn't. Perhaps posts that are "showing" that homosexuality is a choice or that homosexual people are the product of sickness (the study that was posted that hypothyroid women tend to have gay kids) aren't doing the gays any good. Idiots in the world don't need more reasons outside of Jesus to hate the gays. My god.

I'm not gay and I won't claim to have anything more than a cursory insight into what it feels like to be gay and the struggles some many people must have to be themselves in an often hostile environment. I grew up in a time and place (Scotland 1980s) that wasn't welcoming to gay people. My sister is gay and didn't come out until she'd moved halfway round the world. My friends brother was openly gay and suffered for it, (sometimes violently), happily moving to Brighton (the British San Francisco) when he was in his 20s. I sympathise with your stance, however this is a science based forum and nothing should be off limits for discussion. This interests me and I'm not hostile to gay people in the slightest.

 

[Frankdee20]

I have discovered that I can switch homosexual tendencies on and off like a light switch. It seems to involve estrogenic foods and also foods that irritate the gut. I wonder if serotonin is involved.

Potatoes and lettuce seem to be the worst offenders. Cruciferous veggies, white rice, and carrots do not seem to cause this. It's the strangest experience. When I eat "correctly" I'm only interested in women and have no desire at all for gay sex or porn. When I eat incorrectly, it switches.

I NEVER discuss this with people I know because I'm afraid of what the LGBTQ community would do to me if I actually talked about this experience since they assume that sexual orientation is predetermined and not malleable.

EDIT: Forgot to mention garlic and vinegar. These might be worse than potatoes and lettuce because they cause very bizarre, manic-like behavior, hypersexuality, and severe pain in the intestines and stomach. I avoid these like the plague.

No amount of Tater Tots and Salad would make me want to toss another guy's salad.

 

[Regina]

I have discovered that I can switch homosexual tendencies on and off like a light switch. It seems to involve estrogenic foods and also foods that irritate the gut. I wonder if serotonin is involved.

Potatoes and lettuce seem to be the worst offenders. Cruciferous veggies, white rice, and carrots do not seem to cause this. It's the strangest experience. When I eat "correctly" I'm only interested in women and have no desire at all for gay sex or porn. When I eat incorrectly, it switches.

I NEVER discuss this with people I know because I'm afraid of what the LGBTQ community would do to me if I actually talked about this experience since they assume that sexual orientation is predetermined and not malleable.

EDIT: Forgot to mention garlic and vinegar. These might be worse than potatoes and lettuce because they cause very bizarre, manic-like behavior, hypersexuality, and severe pain in the intestines and stomach. I avoid these like the plague.

Do you find estrogenic foods encourage contempt for women? (that waxes and wanes depending on what you eat).

 

[gaze]

Gays tend to have unusual and distant relationships with their fathers and were the kind of 'kitchen window kids,' not encouraged to play outside with the boys or take up boyish hobbies. Their mothers tend to be emotionally unstable and dictate the tenor of home life.

The idea behind conversion therapy is to have a fatherly figure give you some kind of validation and constructive guidance to correct some of these beliefs.

It seems somewhere along the way the transmission of an identity is usurped/damaged and then sexualized. The vector these days seems to often be porn.

Having a male rolemodel act as a fatherly surrogate that validates masculine behavior as well as offering acceptance in a loving, nonsexual way.

The therapy is banned in a number of places. And a search online reveals the incredible hostility there is to it. To dismiss the possibility of envrionmental factors isnt science but ideology.

The gut is connected to emotional health so a supportive diet would be an ideal adjunct to therapy of this sort.

sort of related, but In the book “the authoritarian personality” the writers talk about the tendency of those with authoritarian tendencies to be closet homosexuals, usually as a result of too strict parenting and fear of the father leading to isolation, excess ego, and anger. Obviously not a one size fits all explanation but interesting for what it’s worth

 

[stargazer1111]

Do you find estrogenic foods encourage contempt for women? (that waxes and wanes depending on what you eat).

No. Why?

 

[stargazer1111]

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[Regina]

No. Why?

I've experienced some seriously nasty contempt from men seemingly out of nowhere. (just recently experienced that). Not homosexual men, from whom I've not personally experienced bad behaviour. Tends to be unwell older men, lashing out like vicious mean girls. Very much like classic mean girl stuff. Then I will see the same man at another occasion and they are comporting themselves fine. Example: one day they mutter 'gold-digging whore and you dye your hair." Or "you've gained weight and you're looking old.. (mind you, I'm just getting my mail; I'm not in any interaction with them) . Next day, they seem meek and say "How are you today, young lady?"
It's got to be estrogen.

 

[stargazer1111]

I've experienced some seriously nasty contempt from men seemingly out of nowhere. (just recently experienced that). Not homosexual men, from whom I've not personally experienced bad behaviour. Tends to be unwell older men, lashing out like vicious mean girls. Very much like classic mean girl stuff. Then I will see the same man at another occasion and they are comporting themselves fine. Example: one day they mutter 'gold-digging whore and you dye your hair." Or "you've gained weight and you're looking old.. (mind you, I'm just getting my mail; I'm not in any interaction with them) . Next day, they seem meek and say "How are you today, young lady?"
It's got to be estrogen.

There are a lot of things that could be. Estrogen could be one but it could be a whole host of other problems too. Other food intolerances could be present. They could also be bipolar.