Ukraine Crisis

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Big joe **** suckers are lining up. Imagine swallowing radioactive dust just because elites were installed/boosted from the outside.

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85% though of Germans wouldn’t feel they are occupated and it isn’t black and white really

They keep at the expense of 'cheating' in the economic spheres with cheap energy resources from Russia. But they have already been forced to abandon the nuclear industry (hello Greta) - only France has remained, and even with France, it will take decades to increase the output.


US artificially limited Japan bees economic growth since ~1995. Plus majority are so brainwashed not even knowing their own history of the last century.
 

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Historic moment
How the hell is this a historic moment? Nobody exept Russia takes this serious. It doesn't hold any significance at all, not recognized legally by anyone outside of Russia.
Putin could "sign papers" saying that USA belongs to Russia, same credibility.
 

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How the hell is this a historic moment? Nobody exept Russia takes this serious. It doesn't hold any significance at all, not recognized legally by anyone outside of Russia.
Putin could "sign papers" saying that USA belongs to Russia, same credibility.

Russia dgaf what the west thinks. They occupy the land and possession is 99% of ownership. What it will change in a significant way is Russia's response to Ukrainian aggression in what Russia considers its territory
 

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How the hell is this a historic moment? Nobody exept Russia takes this serious. It doesn't hold any significance at all, not recognized legally by anyone outside of Russia.
Putin could "sign papers" saying that USA belongs to Russia, same credibility.

To better answer your question why it is historic: those lands are originally part of Russia. They were never part of Ukraine until Lenin added them to its borders. So it is historic because a communist mistake unilaterally made nearly 100 years ago has been rectified.
 
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It’s sad because Germany and Russia would, as many times before make for natural allies, all of Europe benefiting from it, including Poland. But it’s not happening.
I’m finishing up this book which illustrates in detail the times when there was free flow of culture and ideas between Western Europe and Russia. Many times I was awestruck by what was and could have been. Overall a phenomenal history of art and culture.

Reagan read it and the author and her husband (American Russophiles) became consultants to him.

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How the hell is this a historic moment? Nobody exept Russia takes this serious. It doesn't hold any significance at all, not recognized legally by anyone outside of Russia.
Putin could "sign papers" saying that USA belongs to Russia, same credibility.
The people of the territories, Africa, Asia, South America, most of the world does take it seriously.
 
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Nobody exept Russia takes this serious. It doesn't hold any significance at all, not recognized legally by anyone outside of Russia.
The legal aspect is correct. Otherwise, as Hugh pointed out, this is a strictly Westen perspective. Billions of people around the world are much more balanced or even pro-Russia in this war
 

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How the hell is this a historic moment? Nobody exept Russia takes this serious. It doesn't hold any significance at all, not recognized legally by anyone outside of Russia.
Putin could "sign papers" saying that USA belongs to Russia, same credibility.
The elections followed UN guidelines. It holds significance because elections mean something? or not? This is ridiculous on so many grounds as the western part of 'Ukraine' has had military actions against civilians since 2014. Azov Nazis wreaking havoc/death and destruction in western 'Ukraine'. I know as I have friends who moved from there in early 2015. The speak Russian. Also my some of my ancestors moved from Ukraine late 1890's to the US and it was explained to us kids that we are 1/2 Russian because of that. Also there was no Ukraine country ever until post 1900. Take a look at this site: Euratlas Periodis Web - Map of Europe 1900 Northeast.
It was part of Lithuania and Lithuania/Poland for hundreds of years before that. In the 15th Century it went from the Baltic to the Black Sea, and was the largest State in Europe.
 

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Krasny Liman is surrounded on 5 sides and only one road + security buffer connects it with the outside world.

Russians dropped 3-ton bombs in one of the directions, making craters so deep that it became impossible for martyrs (Ukrainians) on light vehicles to pass through.

Insane hohols throw more and more human waves, regardless of casualties.

I.e. UA uses suicidal tactics by breaking on light vehicles (like jeeps) into the positions trying to pass through them and as a result, almost everyone goes to Bandera(their national hero).

They are all stuffed with fear-disabling pills from American first-aid kits - officers look after this.
 
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Crimea was part of Russia until Kruschev (a Ukrainian) illegally gave Ukraine administrative control over it in the 1950s. So the population (80% Russian) voted to be reunited with Russia.
It’s completely useless to talk to this guy from okraina. Okrainians living in Crimea from medieval times?! This statement tells me everything about his education.
 

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Insane hohols throw more and more human waves, regardless of casualties.

I.e. UA uses suicidal tactics by breaking on light vehicles (like jeeps) into the positions trying to pass through them and as a result, almost everyone goes to Bandera(their national hero).

They are all stuffed with fear-disabling pills from American first-aid kits - officers look after this.

I read a report from someone in the battle and he described basically this. Wave after wave of zombie-like troops running into gunfire and meeting Bandera.
 
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The reinforcements were used to secure a safe retreat


View: https://twitter.com/witte_sergei/status/1576198848548306944

would be a nice tactical success and very good for the troops morale if they manage to hold and inflict maximum pain while retreating early and orderly to save their strength. Stuff like that would establish trust between troops and command which is much more valuable than propaganda victories that are bought with blood.

One of these twitterers also said that the role of „reserves“ at Lyman was well performed. Don’t know if he already referred to a new bunch of troops with it.

Anyway, even drugged up Ukranians won’t be able to sustain such blind assaults forever.

It’s October now. Zelensky and a lot of retired Westen Generals / analysts said by end of September Kherson would be „liberated“

Turns out they were right. It’s now part of Russia.
 
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Southfront portrays it in cautious tone:

As of the afternoon of October 1, Russian forces withdrew from the town of Krasniy Lyman of the Donetsk People’s Republic of Russia. Now, the fighting continues around the town, on the Zarechnoe-Torskoe-Dibrova line.

After the heroic defense of the town, warriors of the Lugansk People’s Republic and the BARS volunteer formation had to retreat to the defense line east of it in order to avoid the encirclement. LPR and BARS units were able to contain the advance of the overwhelming forces of the Kiev regime in the area for a long time and became an integral part of the Russian efforts to prevent the further development of the crisis in the sector. However, according to reports, the defense of the town of Krasniy Lyman became not possible after the withdrawal of regular units of the Russian Armed Forces from the countryside of the town. Actions on the Russian military command in this area is being publicly criticized in Russian patriotic media.

While, as it was noted earlier, the retreat from Krasniy Lyman was expected, it is still a signal of the actual situation on the frontline in this area in the conditions of the lack of manpower and not always optimal decisions of the Russian command.

As of the afternoon of October 1, the Russian command in the this direction is still unable to fully contain the operational crisis and events in this sector are developing according to a negative scenario.

If the situation evolves without changes, the area of Krasniy Lyman may be completely lost in the next 1-3 days, and the ability of the Russian troops and command to ensure the stabilization of the front in the Kremennaya area will become the next question.

Torskoye and Kremennaya will be the main points of clashes while nearby villages of Drobyshevo and Yampol are already captured by Kiev’s forces.

The current retreat from Krasniy Lyman is a logical consequence of the setbacks Balakleya and Izum. In particular, after the withdrawal from Izyum, the Russian military command was not able to completely stabilize the front on Oskol, which led to the advance of the Ukrainain Armed Forces through Redkodub.

On top of this, Krasniy Lyman became the first Russian town captured by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. The town, an official part of Russia, was left to the advancing enemy force and will have to be recaptured once again when the Russian Armed Forces finally stop the Kiev attack there and resume own offensive operations.
 
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