Ukraine Crisis

[docall18]

Let me point something out that isn't yet so obvious to you, which I by now understand.

If you call a cat a dog, does that make it a dog?

I hope you can catch my drift.

 

[Pistachio]

Hilarious the people you call commies are probably more opposed to the ideology than you are.

Fake Stalinist-Putinist nationalism. Not buying it, comrade.

 

[Pistachio]

Panicking Putin 'calls up OBESE 280lbs retired general, 67, to lead forces in Ukraine' after 'most of his best and battle-hardened senior commanders are killed' in war​

Putin taps 'obese 280lbs retired general to lead forces in Ukraine'

The 20 stone General Pavel, 67, has been summoned from his comfortable retirement in the Moscow suburbs and told to don his army fatigues and go to the front lines of eastern Ukraine.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Russian missiles hit Ukrainian city shopping centre

Russian missiles have hit a busy shopping centre in the city of Kremenchuk in Ukraine. Officials have initially said at least 13 people have been killed and 40 are injured so far.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Perry Staltic]

Russian missiles hit Ukrainian city shopping centre

Russian missiles have hit a busy shopping centre in the city of Kremenchuk in Ukraine. Officials have initially said at least 13 people have been killed and 40 are injured so far.

www.dailymail.co.uk

More BS. Zelensky said their could be 1000 in the mall, not that there were. Nothing that comes out of his mouth is true. Videos at the scene show no women, who generally are the ones to frequent malls, only men with most in uniform and some with military backpacks on. Few cars in parking lot. If the Russians did hit it the UAF was probably storing ammunition there like the other mall in Kiev that got blown up.

 

[Perry Staltic]

It looks like the Amstor mall was closed since March and being used for weapons storage just like the Retroville mall in Kiev


View: https://t.me/Slavyangrad/2304

 

[Perry Staltic]

Makes sense


View: https://twitter.com/Levi_godman/status/1541525751542972420

 

[yerrag]

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Ease up on your matzos comrade.

 

[Peachy]

Panicking Putin 'calls up OBESE 280lbs retired general, 67, to lead forces in Ukraine' after 'most of his best and battle-hardened senior commanders are killed' in war​

Putin taps 'obese 280lbs retired general to lead forces in Ukraine'

The 20 stone General Pavel, 67, has been summoned from his comfortable retirement in the Moscow suburbs and told to don his army fatigues and go to the front lines of eastern Ukraine.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The comments on this tweet are so funny!


View: https://twitter.com/gslavic/status/1541385185610145792?s=21&t=zxt1M5KL9e7IC-aAsB7-QA


View: https://twitter.com/gslavic/status/1541504246968975361?s=21&t=zxt1M5KL9e7IC-aAsB7-QA

 

[Peachy]

Makes sense


View: https://twitter.com/Levi_godman/status/1541525751542972420

The plot thickens. So depressing if this is true:

Moscow’s deputy ambassador to the United Nations has accused Ukraine of orchestrating the attack on the shopping centre in Kremenchuk to garner sympathy ahead of the NATO summit to be held on Tuesday and Wednesday.

“Looks like we are dealing with a new Bucha-style Ukrainian provocation,” Dmitry Polyanskiy wrote on the Twitter.

Ukraine latest updates: Ukraine faces ‘brutality’, NATO head says

Ukraine news from June 28: NATO chief urges bloc to maintain backing for Ukraine as it faces onslaught from Russia.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Perry Staltic]

The comments on this tweet are so funny!


View: https://twitter.com/gslavic/status/1541385185610145792?s=21&t=zxt1M5KL9e7IC-aAsB7-QA


View: https://twitter.com/gslavic/status/1541504246968975361?s=21&t=zxt1M5KL9e7IC-aAsB7-QA

Commander of Meal Team Six

 

[Perry Staltic]

The plot thickens. So depressing if this is true:

Moscow’s deputy ambassador to the United Nations has accused Ukraine of orchestrating the attack on the shopping centre in Kremenchuk to garner sympathy ahead of the NATO summit to be held on Tuesday and Wednesday.

“Looks like we are dealing with a new Bucha-style Ukrainian provocation,” Dmitry Polyanskiy wrote on the Twitter.

Ukraine latest updates: Ukraine faces ‘brutality’, NATO head says

Ukraine news from June 28: NATO chief urges bloc to maintain backing for Ukraine as it faces onslaught from Russia.

www.aljazeera.com

Mall was next door to ammo depot. Video of another destroyed depot shows how they cook off and send rockets and flaming debris flying that start fires away from the initial blast


View: https://twitter.com/mission_russian/status/1541726883557113857


View: https://twitter.com/spriteer_774400/status/1540418326215725056

 

[yerrag]

Commander of Meal Team Six

Which branch of the very fit US Armed Forces was he loaned from?

 

[Perry Staltic]

Mall was actually sandwiched between two attacked sites


View: https://twitter.com/RussianEmbassy/status/1541718651593695233


View: https://twitter.com/RussianEmbassy/status/1541719633660633088

 

[Perry Staltic]

View: https://twitter.com/BJalus/status/1541701960025272320

 

[rockarolla]

Meanwhile, even a simple enumeration of these categories, in the absence of specific knowledge about what information Putin had, and comparing them with the picture of events of the past year and a half, allows us to assume with good certainty exactly what kind of information Putin received.

The most plausible and explaining hypothesis is that Ukraine takes a course towards joining NATO and then, after joining, Ukraine conducts military operations to seize Donbass and / or Crimea, under the umbrella of NATO guarantees and formalized military-treaty and military-practical ties with NATO .

That Ukraine adopted a state doctrine providing for the reannexation of Donbass and Crimea about a year ago was reported, but muffled. One can find official Ukrainian reports of the signing of the doctrine by Zelensky and its external summary (seemingly the only published document from the entire composition of the doctrine), which establishes that, based on the strategies developed by the Ukrainian government, the annexation of Crimea and Donbass is envisaged through a number of measures, including military measures. (document explicitly mentions them). However, the main part of the doctrine is hidden and has not been published.

Judging by what happened, it is most likely that Putin received the content of the doctrine, as well as information about the attitude of the US and NATO leadership towards it, including their position on admitting Ukraine to NATO. If this Ukrainian plan were implemented, the Russian Federation would be drawn into a direct military clash with NATO in a short time.

It is this picture that explains in the most satisfactory way why the Kremlin, which has never wanted anything else than to trade in gas, and not to be touched, suddenly plunged into a fever activity.

Hence the visits to Moscow for secret negotiations by high-ranking Americans - the content and topics of the negotiations were not reported.

Hence, when these negotiations obviously did not work out, the sudden and desperate presentation by the Russian Federation of demands on NATO for security guarantees.

And from here, when it was not possible to move away from the inevitable prospect of a military clash with NATO through diplomatic channels, the special military operation was suddenly born. It is all the more sudden that, until the very last months, the Kremlin, obviously, still relied on diverting the RU-NATO war by diplomatic means.

When this failed, the last way to avoid war with NATO was the military operation.

Indeed, it was better to fight now with Ukraine (with little bloodshed on foreign territory) than in a year or two to get a military clash with a NATO country, launched on the terms and according to the plans of Ukraine and NATO. That same "June 22" about preventing the repetition of which Putin spoke.

The preventive operation not only pre-empted the Ukrainian military operation, but, more importantly, pre-empted the integration of Ukraine into NATO and the Ukrainian military operation turning into a NATO operation.

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This observation also explains why the always extremely cautious Putin, "set off on an adventure." Because the only alternative left was absolutely disastrous.

It also makes it clear that the actors in the West who advocated the integration of Ukraine into NATO, at least to some extent, deliberately and consciously did this precisely for the sake of moving towards a NATO military operation against the Russian Federation. In this perspective, it is quite possible that some of the Kremlin’s intelligence sources were figures in the United States, the EU or NATO, although they do not sympathize with the Russian Federation, but do not want to draw their countries into a direct military conflict with the Russian Federation.

It also clarifies the main goals of the military operation from the Kremlin, which were not at all the defense of the Donbass or Russian national tasks (which turned out to be only incidentally and partially incidental), and suggests what, respectively, can be expected from the Kremlin in the future and what is not.

 

[Perry Staltic]

Moments 2 cruise missiles struck the plant storing munitions in Kremenchug. Blasts were nowhere near the Amstor shopping mall. I love how @0:20 the guy abandons his girlfriend and jumps in the lake. 2nd video shows destroyed plant. Big crater at plant, but no crater at burned down shopping mall. Plus mall's columns are still standing indicating it was set on fire either by blast debris or by Ukrainians as a false flag.


View: https://twitter.com/PelmeniPusha/status/1541789206007222279


View: https://twitter.com/PelmeniPusha/status/1541787672250912769

 

[Birdie]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-BzyGQ_XSg

 

[yerrag]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-BzyGQ_XSg

Good storyteller.

But anybody can do that as long as he has the blessing of the Worldwide Talmudist Brotherhood (WBT). This time they pick an Argentinian to make something stretch without breaking at the seams of credibility.

How could Russia not be strong and how could NATO and the US not be weak? It is part reality and part theatre and it makes the situation confusing that a storyteller goes in to do us the favor of a point by point update.

All he says is true no doubt. It's what he doesn't say that we have to ask questions about. The stuff privy to the elites in the WBT.

How did the remnant of a once sprawling Soviet Empire become bankrupt, then went thru the putative drunken leadership of Yeltsin to be taken over by Putin to come out on top of the world armaments technological ladder so soon after it got so bankrupted by the Cold War?

Unless it were a ruse?

Was Russia helped by a secret worldwide cabal of very rich and evil people? Did these people have a long term plan dating as far back as the early 20th century, or even a century before that? And is Russia being another vehicle of theirs to conquer the world in a subtle piecemeal fashion?

Russia's uniqueness is that it can act as the foil to what the dominant power is. Such that the West could be fighting for human rights, while Russia could be repressive. And Russia could have Pravda, while the West could be having press freedom. Russia can at that time be evil, and the West be virtuous.

And then in a few generations, the West would go on to decay by the stealthy design and tactics of Russia sponsors, to what I would see as an inversion.

The West is now decadent, and Russia now is virtuous. The West destroys nations such as Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and wants to destroy Syria- but thank goodness, Russia is there to protect Syria.

Russia good. The West bad.

See where this is going?

You can fill in the blanks on other aspects of this inversion. It doesn't take much imagination to think of more examples.

So NATO is the bad guy now and Russia the good guy?

How about if they're both merely the current dominant application of the Hegelian Dialectic?

Don't really matter which of these two is the good guy or the bad guy.

Because what matters is us seeing through this sleight of hand and smoke and mirrors.

Because then we will know the real bad people behind all this.

Do not continue to be fooled.

 

[Peachy]

This sums it up.

Also, some math. This is the largest number of civilians reported killed by a single strike. So far they claim 20.

If this happened every day over the last four months the toll would be ~2,400. That’s half the UN figure of 4,700. And Ukrainian officials claim many more times that.

Is the civilian death toll grossly overstated?


View: https://twitter.com/rwapodcast/status/1541922052780818432?s=21&t=Vvc9HQuXv4-iCIJ8I7CZJw


View: https://twitter.com/rwapodcast/status/1541927257647759360?s=21&t=Vvc9HQuXv4-iCIJ8I7CZJw

 

[rockarolla]

View: https://imgur.com/a/fTSQJlq