Trump Tries To Go Peat

[RealNeat]

I don't doubt that ventilators are confounding the issue further, as they are meant to be used in cases such as pneumonia, which covid-19 isn't; however, doctors are finding clotting in various organs of the body.

Alarmed as COVID patients' blood thickened, New York doctors try new treatments

"At Philadelphia’s Thomas Jefferson University Hospital, Dr. Pascal Jabbour had begun to see a similar surge in strokes among people with COVID-19. The way his patients’ blood congealed reminded him of congenital conditions such as lupus, or certain cancers.
“I’ve never seen any other viruses causing that,” Jabbour said.
In Boston, the Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center began a clinical trial earlier this month to see if tPA, an anti-clotting drug, could help severely sick COVID-19 patients.
Clotting can develop in anyone who gets very sick and spends long periods of time immobile on a ventilator, but doctors say the problem seemed to show up sooner in COVID-19 patients as a more direct consequence of the virus.
At Mount Sinai, patients in intensive care often receive the blood-thinning agent heparin in weaker prophylactic doses. Under the new protocol, higher doses of heparin normally used to dissolve clots will be given to patients before any clots are detected."

However, it seems that doctors are ignoring research that was done in as early as the 90's showing that losartan has some of the best anti-clotting properties of any drug, which seem to be separate from it's ARB properties, which is why losartan is perhaps effective, while other "sartan" drugs such as telmisartan and candesartan are not.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/86046

"our clinical observations are that extracorporeal membrane oxygenation (ECMO) circuits are clotting more, that dialysis circuits are clotting more," said Luks. "We can't explain why they're hypoxemic without a change in chest radiograph. We have seen overt pulmonary embolism or microemboli that are developing in the lungs. There's a plausible argument that maybe this is related to a pro-coagulant state."
He cautioned that studies of ARDS patients before COVID-19 do show documentation of microthrombi on autopsy, and critically ill patients do develop venous thromboembolism and pulmonary embolism and have had other issues like clotted dialysis circuits."

I think this points to the issue that doctors have drugs in mind that they think of as "anticoagulants" and they don't want to think of how drugs can be useful for issues that they weren't originally purposed for. Losartan is considered a blood pressure medication, however, it is actually effective in the use of the reduction of platelet aggregation, and moreso than almost any other medication (besides, surprise surprise, cinanserin) for GVPI-initiated aggregation (see study I mentioned above in response to yerrag).

Here is another addition to the hypothesis. sandeep chakraborty on Twitter

 

[Dave Clark]

Is this Rife? He doesn't talk about Rife at all, and I'm up to the 19 minute mark, all on how to use the silver pulser.

I thought the Rife unit is larger and isn't something you wear. I have to check with my cousin as he had one before.

This isn't Rife, this is a battery operated pulser that sends electrical pulse into your blood. It is worn around the right wrist area over top of the arteries. The machine also doubles as a colloidal silver water machine. I have owned one for years, mostly to make colloidal silver. I believe if you research Bob Beck, he may of been the guy who invented it, he is since deceased.

 

[Oraganic4me]

I follow beauty blogs and Christina Cuomo wife of CNN Andrew Cuomo said while stricken with CoVID_19. She put some Bleach in her bath water to draw out heavy metals and toxins... this was recommended by her highly paid Naturopath doctor. Why is Trump considered careless for saying this but she is posting about it all over her health blog and Instagram

 

[alywest]

Here is another addition to the hypothesis. sandeep chakraborty on Twitter

This is really interesting. Do you know where he’s thinking the bacteria are originating from if it isn’t the peritonsillar cavity? I wonder if it could be from undiagnosed dead teeth

 

[yerrag]

This is really interesting. Do you know where he’s thinking the bacteria are originating from if it isn’t the peritonsillar cavity? I wonder if it could be from undiagnosed dead teeth

He doesn't say anything other than the peritonsillar cavity, but I take that it is assumed that bacteria is always in us, but that it takes a setup to a perfect storm condition to get them colonized, especially with anaerobic bacteria. In this case, it's the pus that ends up blocking any air exchange creating an anaerobic pocket where anaerobic bacteria can grow. Anaerobic bacteria can't grow and colonize if there were no anaerobic conditions created. Often, aerobic bacteria gets to colonize first. When the aerobic bacteria gets colonized, it creates anaerobic conditions which favor the growth and colonization by anaerobic bacteria. Anaerobic bacteria in our gums that lead to periodontal infection develop this way. These bacteria can also enter our bloodstream, and eventually colonize with biofilms along with the atherosclerotic plaque that forms in our blood vessels. Not everyone develop this condition though. But poor oral health easily leads to such conditions.

 

[yerrag]

I follow beauty blogs and Christina Cuomo wife of CNN Andrew Cuomo said while stricken with CoVID_19. She put some Bleach in her bath water to draw out heavy metals and toxins... this was recommended by her highly paid Naturopath doctor. Why is Trump considered careless for saying this but she is posting about it all over her health blog and Instagram

Because Trump. He scares these people and he calls their bluff. They wanted to use Trump to enable Hillary presidency. He surprised them. They made up the term "fake news" and he ends up using it against them. Boomerang! They are like the fiends in the cartoons we watch who are always frustrated by the cartoon hero. Like Elmer Fudd (abadi-abadi-abadi) constantly being frustrated by Woody Woodpecker.

Everytime they talk, you can see in their facial expression their anus is so tightened up out of the frustration and the stress. They will die of cancer soon.

 

[yerrag]

I have some of the Sota products, these are based on Dr. Bob Beck. He developed a blood electrification device. Maybe 10 years ago, I came across a medical journal article where they destroyed viruses in vitro by passing an electrical current through the blood.

I think it's based on it but it might not be the exact tech. More so Bob Beck oriented.

This isn't Rife, this is a battery operated pulser that sends electrical pulse into your blood. It is worn around the right wrist area over top of the arteries. The machine also doubles as a colloidal silver water machine. I have owned one for years, mostly to make colloidal silver. I believe if you research Bob Beck, he may of been the guy who invented it, he is since deceased.

I'm gonna tr my cousin's Rife machine. Hope it's a good one.

 

[Arnold Grape]

I follow beauty blogs and Christina Cuomo wife of CNN Andrew Cuomo said while stricken with CoVID_19. She put some Bleach in her bath water to draw out heavy metals and toxins... this was recommended by her highly paid Naturopath doctor. Why is Trump considered careless for saying this but she is posting about it all over her health blog and Instagram

Mainly, because he continues to say extremely idiotic things without regard for the fact that people will jeopardize their health by listening to him in any capacity. The weird and overarching question that all of this elicits, of course, is the hilarious knee jerk reaction to defend what this carnival barker says when this community is fast to dismiss any (health) advice administered by people in a position to actually offer it. What is your motive?

Some posters here just ride along with the media lying and bashing. Very antithetical to the spirit of this forum.

Please correct me if I am wrong in that what you have just written is that critiquing this president is antithetical to the spirit of this forum. That is how this message reads to me.

 

[yerrag]

Mainly, because he continues to say extremely idiotic things without regard for the fact that people will jeopardize their health by listening to him in any capacity. The weird and overarching question that all of this elicits, of course, is the hilarious knee jerk reaction to defend what this carnival barker says when this community is fast to dismiss any (health) advice administered by people in a position to actually offer it. What is your motive?


Please correct me if I am wrong in that what you have just written is that critiquing this president is antithetical to the spirit of this forum. That is how this message reads to me.

Following the mischaracterization and misrepresentation is what you can't seem to comprehend. If it's a lie and you know it, and yet you proceed to continue with that lying--that is what's antithetical.

 

[oburns]

puhhhlease. Stop "cleaning" trumps message.

Lysol just made a warning. Hahahah

Lysol maker, EPA warn against internal use of disinfectants after Trump comments

The comments are funny

1 hour ago
The fact that Lysol has to make this kind of statement speaks volumes about the country

53 minutes agoIf society needs to be issued a warning on this subject, that says a lot about society...and it's not good.


1 hour ago
Don't forget to wash it down with some Tide Pods while you're at it.

59 minutes agoHe's said some off the wall things.
But this one will be page one in the history books forever.

so do the peanut companies, placing a "Warning" (if you have peanut allergies) just saying!

 

[Arnold Grape]

Following the mischaracterization and misrepresentation is what you can't seem to comprehend. If it's a lie and you know it, and yet you proceed to continue with that lying--that is what's antithetical.

Friendo. I posted a quote that is dubious enough that you thought that I made it up.

 

[yerrag]

Friendo. I posted a quote that is dubious enough that you thought that I made it up.

That is dubious that's why I asked, but someone else replied because you ignored my question.

Don't hold that against you, but you felt I did. I was referring to another poster piling on, but since you responded as if you need to defend yourself, I responded.

All's good. Your post wasn't misleading. It was accurate. You left it for us to interpret what Trump said. And certainly, a few of us got carried away with the media slander.

 

[skycop00]

What I don't understand from much of society is their inability to see the corruption on both sides. The well connected elite ruling class is a problem and it doesn't matter what side they're on. If you somehow think that Trump isn't a part of the elite ruling class with no ties to other elites who want control, then you need to take off your blinders. Trump is no different from the rest in that he wants to maintain a system for the elite.

I understand the RULING ELITE issue, but I differ on your position of TRUMP. Yes he is rich by all standards I am aware of but allow me to tell you a humbling story about Trump. I use to be employed in West Palm Beach in the early 2000s. I was in the Professional Aviation business and worked with about 20 other FAA employees in a facility at the airport. Obviously Trump flew in and out of PBI and one day we received a invitation for all employees and their families to attend an event at Mar a Lago. Needless to say we were all shocked and most attended. I actually brought my Down's Syndrome cousin as a guest in a black tie event. DJT seemed to zoom right in on my cousin Gary. He approached us on a mission and introduced himself as Donald and asked who he had the pleasure of meeting. Needless to say we were cared for very well that evening and many personal contacts ensued. The man has a heart of GOLD and especially for the less fortunate. One thing he didn't seem to support was LAZY and NON-Driven people. All this to say that he is a man like me, just more money and a heart to lift all ships (even in low waters). I believe he has information on the elites that they are terrified of. I also know that China is pissed off at the leveling of the trade deals that were negotiated. Trump is smart and I think he has already figured this out. I don't know how much more this 70 something year old man has left in him, but I sure hope he can fight the LEFT (socialists) off in November. They are trying as hard as they can to take him out and I fear for his safety for sure. Just my perspective as a supporter and NON-Republican... (Libertarian all the way to the grave)

 

[yerrag]

I understand the RULING ELITE issue, but I differ on your position of TRUMP. Yes he is rich by all standards I am aware of but allow me to tell you a humbling story about Trump. I use to be employed in West Palm Beach in the early 2000s. I was in the Professional Aviation business and worked with about 20 other FAA employees in a facility at the airport. Obviously Trump flew in and out of PBI and one day we received a invitation for all employees and their families to attend an event at Mar a Lago. Needless to say we were all shocked and most attended. I actually brought my Down's Syndrome cousin as a guest in a black tie event. DJT seemed to zoom right in on my cousin Gary. He approached us on a mission and introduced himself as Donald and asked who he had the pleasure of meeting. Needless to say we were cared for very well that evening and many personal contacts ensued. The man has a heart of GOLD and especially for the less fortunate. One thing he didn't seem to support was LAZY and NON-Driven people. All this to say that he is a man like me, just more money and a heart to lift all ships (even in low waters). I believe he has information on the elites that they are terrified of. I also know that China is pissed off at the leveling of the trade deals that were negotiated. Trump is smart and I think he has already figured this out. I don't know how much more this 70 something year old man has left in him, but I sure hope he can fight the LEFT (socialists) off in November. They are trying as hard as they can to take him out and I fear for his safety for sure. Just my perspective as a supporter and NON-Republican... (Libertarian all the way to the grave)

Thanks for sharing.

I believe you and I can see that Trump is the real thing. He's not a projection of some image from a Tony Robbins seminar, which I see all too often in corporate CEOs and our officials. They're all acting out a certain persona and they all appear to say the same things and kiss the same babies.

 

[jmojo]

I understand the RULING ELITE issue, but I differ on your position of TRUMP. Yes he is rich by all standards I am aware of but allow me to tell you a humbling story about Trump. I use to be employed in West Palm Beach in the early 2000s. I was in the Professional Aviation business and worked with about 20 other FAA employees in a facility at the airport. Obviously Trump flew in and out of PBI and one day we received a invitation for all employees and their families to attend an event at Mar a Lago. Needless to say we were all shocked and most attended. I actually brought my Down's Syndrome cousin as a guest in a black tie event. DJT seemed to zoom right in on my cousin Gary. He approached us on a mission and introduced himself as Donald and asked who he had the pleasure of meeting. Needless to say we were cared for very well that evening and many personal contacts ensued. The man has a heart of GOLD and especially for the less fortunate. One thing he didn't seem to support was LAZY and NON-Driven people. All this to say that he is a man like me, just more money and a heart to lift all ships (even in low waters). I believe he has information on the elites that they are terrified of. I also know that China is pissed off at the leveling of the trade deals that were negotiated. Trump is smart and I think he has already figured this out. I don't know how much more this 70 something year old man has left in him, but I sure hope he can fight the LEFT (socialists) off in November. They are trying as hard as they can to take him out and I fear for his safety for sure. Just my perspective as a supporter and NON-Republican... (Libertarian all the way to the grave)

I like hearing good things like that and I'm sure that Trump is a good man at heart. My main issue is not with him directly, but with the people that he surrounds himself with and has built his cabinet with. These are all people fighting to uphold a system that works primarily for the rich while keeping an illusion that the working class has a chance to rise up to the rich class. These elite democrats and republicans and their obscenely wealthy donors are the ones who help to keep economic inequality at obscene levels and use the system to cheat and rig the game to their advantage. The elite manufacture other issues to get the population riled up while behind the scenes, they rig everything in their favor. Republican and Democrat elites are basically the same people. They want you to fight over ideological issues while they fool us all.

Albert Einstein had a brilliant and fitting quote for exactly what we're experiencing these days:

"Private capital tends to become concentrated in few hands, partly because of competition among the capitalists, and partly because technological development and the increasing division of labor encourage the formation of larger units of production at the expense of smaller ones. The result of these developments is an oligarchy of private capital the enormous power of which cannot be effectively checked even by a democratically organized political society. This is true since the members of legislative bodies are selected by political parties, largely financed or otherwise influenced by private capitalists who, for all practical purposes, separate the electorate from the legislature. The consequence is that the representatives of the people do not in fact sufficiently protect the interests of the underprivileged sections of the population. Moreover, under existing conditions, private capitalists inevitably control, directly or indirectly, the main sources of information (press, radio, education). It is thus extremely difficult, and indeed in most cases quite impossible, for the individual citizen to come to objective conclusions and to make intelligent use of his political rights."​

 

[Lynne]

I understand the RULING ELITE issue, but I differ on your position of TRUMP. Yes he is rich by all standards I am aware of but allow me to tell you a humbling story about Trump. I use to be employed in West Palm Beach in the early 2000s. I was in the Professional Aviation business and worked with about 20 other FAA employees in a facility at the airport. Obviously Trump flew in and out of PBI and one day we received a invitation for all employees and their families to attend an event at Mar a Lago. Needless to say we were all shocked and most attended. I actually brought my Down's Syndrome cousin as a guest in a black tie event. DJT seemed to zoom right in on my cousin Gary. He approached us on a mission and introduced himself as Donald and asked who he had the pleasure of meeting. Needless to say we were cared for very well that evening and many personal contacts ensued. The man has a heart of GOLD and especially for the less fortunate. One thing he didn't seem to support was LAZY and NON-Driven people. All this to say that he is a man like me, just more money and a heart to lift all ships (even in low waters). I believe he has information on the elites that they are terrified of. I also know that China is pissed off at the leveling of the trade deals that were negotiated. Trump is smart and I think he has already figured this out. I don't know how much more this 70 something year old man has left in him, but I sure hope he can fight the LEFT (socialists) off in November. They are trying as hard as they can to take him out and I fear for his safety for sure. Just my perspective as a supporter and NON-Republican... (Libertarian all the way to the grave)

Love your story @skycop00. DT is generally considered a big joke here in Australia, and I thought so too until I heard of his positions on some things. The fact that he seems to follow some of the less mainstream health info, etc, gets my respect too.

 

[skycop00]

Love your story @skycop00. DT is generally considered a big joke here in Australia, and I thought so too until I heard of his positions on some things. The fact that he seems to follow some of the less mainstream health info, etc, gets my respect too.

Best we have had in a LONG TIME.

 

[oburns]

Anyone can do science. It is great to see him try. I was thinking he was in on it. Weird he hasn´t figured it out yet that they are conning him to sell vaccines and to change the world order. He has always been very hard on his contractors. He should see everyone around him is failing hard.

I think he knows and will hear soon enough the outcome.