Trisha Morrison's FOIA Requests About HIV

[tankasnowgod]

Trisha Morrison was the last wife of Tommy Morrison, a Boxer who tested positive for HIV in 1996, and whose career was finished after that. Tommy Morrison disputed the results of the test, and even the existence of HIV itself, until his death in 2013.

His wife Trisha has been looking for answers since then. She claims to have asked both Anthony Fauci and CDC Director Robert Redfield for electron micrographs of HIV, but neither produced anything.

In 2017, she sent in some FOIA requests for electron micrographs of both HIV and HIV specific antibodies, in relation to specific journal articles. Here is the response she got-

https://twitter.com/trisha_tommy/status/1289072623289356293

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[lvysaur]

Interesting. The autopsy also came back HIV negative.
There was obviously an outbreak of "something" among gay people in the 80s, but logically HIV should have spread to hetero populations by now--it's been 40 years.

It could be related to a particular inborn immunodeficiency among homosexuals. Or, it might be causative from the act of internalizing semen itself.

Telegony is real and has been proven, and perhaps women are able to better deal with the foreign body of "male semen" better than men are, due to evolutionary pressure.

The below woman was kidnapped by Native Americans when she was 9, and lived with them until she was kidnapped back by US authorities at the age of 34.
She married one of the chiefs and bore 3 children. But nobody knows of how many episodes of intercourse went on.

If you look at her picture you'll see some strange things:
Her hair is very sleek and straight. Her eyebrows very sparse. She has very wide and lifted cheekbones. She seems to have an epicanthal fold in her eyes. And one of her eyes is dark.
Cynthia Ann Parker - Wikipedia

The aforementioned traits are all Asian/Native/"Mongoloid", I'd say her outward appearance was gradually transformed via the incorporation of DNA foreign to her body.

 

[tankasnowgod]

Interesting. The autopsy also came back HIV negative.
There was obviously an outbreak of "something" among gay people in the 80s, but logically HIV should have spread to hetero populations by now--it's been 40 years.

In the early 80's, the availability of street drugs was exploding in the US. Cocaine and heroin were becoming plentiful, and cheap. AIDS was primarily found in gay men (not lesbians), and gay men especially used a lot of these drugs, not just cocaine and heroin, but "poppers" as well, which increased nitric oxide. This alone might have been enough to break down someone's immune system. Gay men also had lots of anonymous sex with many partners, and I've seen it suggested that many cases of AIDS might have been caused (at least in part) by syphilis.

The combo of excessive street drugs, existing STDs like syphilis, and other factors like sleep deprivation, could go a long way in explaining the vast majority of AIDS cases in gay men in the early 80s.

 

[Hugh Johnson]

Interesting. The autopsy also came back HIV negative.
There was obviously an outbreak of "something" among gay people in the 80s, but logically HIV should have spread to hetero populations by now--it's been 40 years.

It could be related to a particular inborn immunodeficiency among homosexuals. Or, it might be causative from the act of internalizing semen itself.

Gay men have a lot of sex. No women there, so an average looking gay man with little game can have sex with a dozen guys in a weekend. Most gay men have hundreds, sometimes thousands of partners. Most men I know have 5-10, most women I know have around 50. In addition gay men have a lot of anal sex, which is many times more likely to spread infections, and is generally a mechanically damaging to the body. Not to mention rampant drug use, and the occasional bug chaser.

 

[lvysaur]

Gay men have a lot of sex.

but "poppers" as well, which increased nitric oxide.

I'm skeptical of these explanations.
Poppers aren't really used now, but gay men are still 50% of HIV cases while being 1% of the populace.
Gay men have more sexual partners, but straight people have had steadily loosening sexual morals since the 80s. And we've had 40 years to catch up in HIV incidence. We haven't.

 

[tankasnowgod]

Poppers aren't really used now, but gay men are still 50% of HIV cases while being 1% of the populace.
Gay men have more sexual partners, but straight people have had steadily loosening sexual morals since the 80s. And we've had 40 years to catch up in HIV incidence. We haven't.

Funny how you ignored that I also mentioned "cocaine and heroin." "Poppers" might not be used anymore, but Viagra and Cialis sure are. And they have a similar mechanism of action, increasing NO.

You should also clarify if you are talking about "HIV" or "AIDS." AIDS refers to conditions with observable symptoms. "HIV" simply a test that diagnoses you as positive or negative. It's clear that being "HIV positive" doesn't necessarily imply you will get "AIDS" at any point in the foreseeable future. Tommy Morrison lived 17 years after his diagnosis, which does appear to be a false positive. Magic Johnson is still alive and apparently pretty healthy, and he tested "HIV Positive" 28 years ago.

Regardless, at this point, HIV and AIDS is clearly associated with gay men. As such, there is probably a disproportionate number of HIV testing that goes on in the gay community. More testing will get you more positive results.

 

[gaze]

I'm skeptical of these explanations.
Poppers aren't really used now, but gay men are still 50% of HIV cases while being 1% of the populace.
Gay men have more sexual partners, but straight people have had steadily loosening sexual morals since the 80s. And we've had 40 years to catch up in HIV incidence. We haven't.

much more than 1% of the population is gay

 

[lvysaur]

Funny how you ignored that I also mentioned "cocaine and heroin."

Funny that you assume gays do those drugs at much higher rates than the general populace. Any evidence to support that at all?

I know the difference between HIV/AIDS, I was referring to HIV seroprevalence specifically. And yes, gays definitely get tested more, but in order to control for that I'd have to see a figure of "incidence per amount tested", and I have no idea where I'd find such a statistic.

 

[boris]

I stumbled upon something related today about Kary Mullis who developed the testing method that is being used to detect HIV.

Was the COVID-19 Test Meant to Detect a Virus? - UncoverDC
"Mullis, like his friend and colleague Dr. Peter Duesberg, does not believe that AIDS is caused by the retrovirus HIV. He is a long-standing member of the Group for the Reappraisal of the HIV-AIDS Hypothesis, the 500-member protest organization pushing for a re-examination of the cause of AIDS.

One of Duesberg’s strongest arguments in the debate has been that the HIV virus is barely detectable in people who suffer from AIDS. Ironically, when PCR was applied to HIV research, around 1989, researchers claimed to have put this complaint to rest. Using the new technology, they were suddenly able to see viral particles in the quantities they couldn’t see before. Scientific articles poured forth stating that HIV was now 100 times more prevalent than was previously thought. But Mullis himself was unimpressed. “PCR made it easier to see that certain people are infected with HIV,” he told Spin in 1992, “and some of those people came down with symptoms of AIDS. But that doesn’t begin even to answer the question, ‘Does HIV cause it?'”

Mullis then went on to echo one of Duesberg’s most controversial claims. “Human beings are full of retroviruses,” he said, “We don’t know if it is hundreds or thousands or hundreds of thousands. We’ve only recently started to look for them. But they’ve never killed anybody before. People have always survived retroviruses.”

Mullis challenged the popular wisdom that the disease-causing mechanisms of HIV are simply too “mysterious” to comprehend. “The mystery of that damn virus,” he said at the time, “has been generated by the $2 billion a year they spend on it. You take any other virus, and you spend $2 billion, and you can make up some great mysteries about it too.”

Like so many great scientific discoveries, the idea for PCR came suddenly, as if by direct transmission from another realm. It was during a late-night drive in 1984, the same year, ironically, that HIV was announced to be the “probable” cause of AIDS.

 

[tankasnowgod]

Funny that you assume gays do those drugs at much higher rates than the general populace. Any evidence to support that at all?

I didn't make that claim or assumption. Go back and read my original comment. I was very clear that it might be a combination of factors.

I have heard it stated that men, in general, are more frequent users of drugs like cocaine and heroin.

 

[haidut]

The aforementioned traits are all Asian/Native/"Mongoloid", I'd say her outward appearance was gradually transformed via the incorporation of DNA foreign to her body.

There is no need for foreign DNA actually. It certainly does contribute, but as per Sheldrake's morphogenetic resnance field writings, we basically literally become alike the people we live with through an ongoing process of resonance with them and their ancestors. There is a non-genetic pressure for increasing similarity and a sort of averaging of "features" within groups.
Morphic Resonance and Morphic Fields an Introduction
"...If we want to stick to the idea of natural laws, we could say that as nature itself evolves, the laws of nature also evolve, just as human laws evolve over time. But then how would natural laws be remembered or enforced? The law metaphor is embarrassingly anthropomorphic. Habits are less human-centred. Many kinds of organisms have habits, but only humans have laws. The habits of nature depend on non-local similarity reinforcement. Through morphic resonance, the patterns of activity in self-organizing systems are influenced by similar patterns in the past, giving each species and each kind of self-organizing system a collective memory."
"...They contain a built-in memory given by self-resonance with a morphic unit's own past and by morphic resonance with all previous similar systems. This memory is cumulative. The more often particular patterns of activity are repeated, the more habitual they tend to become."

 

[boris]

Funny that you assume gays do those drugs at much higher rates than the general populace. Any evidence to support that at all?

(edit: I misread and realize this doesn't adress what you said about cocaine and heroin)

Poppers - Wikipedia
"It is used for practical purposes to facilitate anal sex by increasing blood flow and relaxing sphincter muscles"


Poppers were heavily marketed in gay magazines.
Ad for poppers from a 1970s gay magazine : vintageads

This is from a commenter:
"Inhalation of the fumes causes relaxation of involuntary smooth muscle groups of the body. This includes muscles in the throat and anus, which is why poppers really took off in the gay community — it makes anal sex a little easier.
When poppers became a really big part of the gay cruising scene in the 1960s onward, some companies produced their own "house brands" as it were. Jac Aroma is the blend Jac Masters is selling here."

 

[boris]

Poppers aren't really used now, but gay men are still 50% of HIV cases while being 1% of the populace.

This is from 2020:

Prevalence, frequency, and motivations for alkyl nitrite use among gay, bisexual and other men who have sex with men in Australia - ScienceDirect
"(45.9%) had used poppers in the previous six months (‘recent use’). Among these men, 195 (24.3%) had used them weekly or more frequently"

 

[lvysaur]

"(45.9%) had used poppers in the previous six months (‘recent use’). Among these men, 195 (24.3%) had used them weekly or more frequently"

I stand corrected, I guess poppers are still the rage with them.

There is no need for foreign DNA actually. It certainly does contribute, but as per Sheldrake's morphogenetic resnance field writings, we basically literally become alike the people we live with through an ongoing process of resonance with them and their ancestors. There is a non-genetic pressure for increasing similarity and a sort of averaging of "features" within groups.

I actually started thinking about this in the midst of writing that post. I didn't mention it because it wasn't relevant to the semen-telegony-irritation argument I was making. Good to know that we were thinking on the same wavelength, though.

 

[Hugh Johnson]

I'm skeptical of these explanations.
Poppers aren't really used now, but gay men are still 50% of HIV cases while being 1% of the populace.
Gay men have more sexual partners, but straight people have had steadily loosening sexual morals since the 80s. And we've had 40 years to catch up in HIV incidence. We haven't.

Young people are having less sex than ever. Male virginity is common these days, and there are even young women so unhealthy they are not at the top of the sexual attractiveness hierarchy. I highly doubt this applies to gay men.

 

[tankasnowgod]

The combo of excessive street drugs, existing STDs like syphilis, and other factors like sleep deprivation, could go a long way in explaining the vast majority of AIDS cases in gay men in the early 80s.

I'm skeptical of these explanations.

FYI, this documentary by Gary Null mentions specifically the "lifestyle hypothesis," and that a lot of doctors treating AIDS patients from the mid 70's until 1984 (when HIV was announced as the "official" cause) thought the combination of multiple STDs and excessive drug use could be enough to knock out someone's immune system.

A doctor interview (Dr. Steven Caiazza) also suggests that Syphilis might be a primary cause of AIDS.



Relevant part from 18:00-25:00 minutes.