Transmissible Viral Vaccines... how the shots are affecting those who haven't taken it. They may be designed to do exactly that

[Giraffe]

Parsifal is saying it's vasculitis.

I am officially worried about the new variants until I can find data that show the runny nose that's the early symptom of the Delta variant isn't caused by vasculitis.

Coronaviruses mutate all the time. There are several thousands different versions of SARS-CoV-2 around. To pick out a few of them and call them Southafrican variant, British variant (alpha) or Indian variant (delta) is mostly propaganda and fearporn.. It's still a respiratory virus which in most cases causes the sniffles if any symptoms at all. Mike Yeadon, Sucharit Bhakdi, Wolfgang Wodarg ... They all are not concerned about variants, and if they don't worry, I don't either.

 

[Nemo]

Coronaviruses mutate all the time. There are several thousands different versions of SARS-CoV-2 around. To pick out a few of them and call them Southafrican variant, British variant (alpha) or Indian variant (delta) is mostly propaganda and fearporn.. It's still a respiratory virus which in most cases causes the sniffles if any symptoms at all. Mike Yeadon, Sucharit Bhakdi, Wolfgang Wodarg ... They all are not concerned about variants, and if they don't worry, I don't either.

Giraffe, please read my posts more carefully.

I have never believed the mainstream media propaganda on Covid-19 or variants. I am concerned about the Delta variant because scientist Walter Chestnut is pointing out that it manifests first as vasculitis and unusual cancers, and he's providing evidence of that.

Mike Yeadon hasn't refuted Walter Chestnut. Mike Yeadon spoke in general terms about mutations, not about specific information related to the Delta variant.

The fact is, first symptoms are runny nose with soaring ferritin levels. That's the hallmark of vasculitis. Chestnut is saying the Delta variant zombifies cells throughout your body. It eats away at the lining of your blood vessels and destroys your organs.

So I'm concerned about the Delta variant.

It's just as bad to reassure people that everything is lies and fear porn, nothing to see here, as it is to peddle lies and fear porn.

Don't ever accuse me again of peddling mainstream propaganda and fear porn.

 

[Nemo]

Is there anything that can cross blood brain barrier? Methylene blue?

Lots of stuff, Gone Peating. Hydroxychloroquine is great at crossing the blood brain barrier. Ivermectin does too.

Methylene blue too, and it should be protective at normal doses as long as your exposure is low.

If your exposure is high or prolonged, I'm not sure most people could handle the doses of MB required.

 

[Peater]

I had a runny nose and fatigue over the weekend and into Monday...better now though.

Better keep chugging coffee and cream just to be safe

 

[Nemo]

What does he mean IVM not effective? Is he talking about only for reversing the magnetic effect? How are people reversing it then

He's saying ivermectin is not effective for reversing the magnetic effect. That would mean it's not just on the spike protein.

I'm not sure anyone has reversed the magnetic effect yet.

It may be they are infecting people's DNA with the magnetofection material.

 

[Nemo]

I had a runny nose and fatigue over the weekend and into Monday...better now though.

Better keep chugging coffee and cream just to be safe

The scientists I follow are all suggesting Vitamin C too, to the point of bowel intolerance.

If you start getting nosebleeds, I'd get a ferritin test.

Not saying you have it, but it's probably time for everyone to learn the symptoms of vasculitis:

Vasculitis - Symptoms, Causes, Treatment | NORD

Learn about Vasculitis, including symptoms, causes, and treatments. If you or a loved one is affected by this condition, visit NORD to find resources and

rarediseases.org

 

[Zigzag]

Is there anything we can do to clear the effects of spike protein from the vaccines?

 

[Nemo]

Is there anything we can do to clear the effects of spike protein from the vaccines?

If you got the vax, Zigzag, I would strongly recommend starting Fleming's protective protocol for people who have been vaccinated:

https://21a86421-c3e0-461b-83c2-cfe4628dfadc.filesusr.com/ugd/659775_409b4bb7107f4320be075ce1404b048d.pdf

You can find it on p. 7.

It looks like a long list, but he's mostly using just a few drugs. He repeats them to show you they are also working to solve problem B and C, not just problem A.

You take most of the drugs just once, or for one week.

The protocol is designed to stop your body from continuing to make the spike protein, clear the spike proteins from your circulation and cells, and clean up prions and plaques from your brain.

Let us know if you need a doctor to work with on this.

 

[GreenEyedBlonde]

I have a friend in her early fifties who was diagnosed in early April with vasculitis. She is on heavy steroids and a few other drugs as the inflammation was present in all three layers of her arteries (per biopsy done on multiple scalp lesions apparently). She remarked that she was not vaccinated but that her husband had received his first jab in mid March. Also that she plans to be vaxxed, upon recommendation of her physician, when she is off her meds ?‍.

So here’s possibly another case of mRNA vaccine transmissibility.

 

[Peater]

The scientists I follow are all suggesting Vitamin C too, to the point of bowel intolerance.

If you start getting nosebleeds, I'd get a ferritin test.

Not saying you have it, but it's probably time for everyone to learn the symptoms of vasculitis:

Vasculitis - Symptoms, Causes, Treatment | NORD

Learn about Vasculitis, including symptoms, causes, and treatments. If you or a loved one is affected by this condition, visit NORD to find resources and

rarediseases.org

Interesting thanks. I will update if I get nosebleeds as I never get them. I had one months ago from taking too much aspirin but that's it.

 

[Nemo]

I have a friend in her early fifties who was diagnosed in early April with vasculitis. She is on heavy steroids and a few other drugs as the inflammation was present in all three layers of her arteries (per biopsy done on multiple scalp lesions apparently). She remarked that she was not vaccinated but that her husband had received his first jab in mid March. Also that she plans to be vaxxed, upon recommendation of her physician, when she is off her meds ?‍.

So here’s possibly another case of mRNA vaccine transmissibility.

Albina, thank you for the report, both on the vasculitis and transmissibility. I don't think there's any doubt on transmissibility from intimate contact now.

Vasculitis is normally very rare and suddenly it's everywhere.

Time for people to learn about vasculitis:

Vasculitis - Symptoms, Causes, Treatment | NORD

Learn about Vasculitis, including symptoms, causes, and treatments. If you or a loved one is affected by this condition, visit NORD to find resources and

rarediseases.org

 

[Nemo]

Interesting thanks. I will update if I get nosebleeds as I never get them. I had one months ago from taking too much aspirin but that's it.

You're not living with someone vaxxed, right Peater?

 

[Peater]

You're not living with someone vaxxed, right Peater?

I am living with someone who had 2x Pfizer injections but we don't share any rooms apart from occasional kitchen visits

 

[Nemo]

The question of "if you don't need it, why would you take it?" becomes tricky because we don't always know when we need it. If someone works all day long with vaxxed people and still has no symptoms, what should they use as prophylaxis: Fleming's recommended COVID prophylactic protocol (nutrition, aspirin, and vitamins) or his vaccine protocol (HCQ, ivermectin)? What about if they develop ambiguous symptoms, like brain fog or headache, which could derive from vaccine shedding but from other causes as well, like hypothyroidism or low magnesium or any chronic inflammatory condition? I suppose in this case, they should use his vaccine protocol for a week.

I hope this doe not come across as me trying to dissuade people from using these medications when they have symptoms and have interacted with vaxxed people. I'm just pointing out that even Fleming himself does not believe in using these medications prematurely, as he writes, "I am not a believer in the use of medications for prophylaxis when there is no disease yet to be treated," which seems to imply that even someone surrounded by vaxxed people does not need to use HCQ or ivermectin, unless they have reason to think they've become infected with the vax spike protein, ie symptoms.

You could handle it this way, Vileplume.

If you have actual symptoms, you could get a d-dimer and ferritin test. If the d-dimer test is high, you have to treat. If the ferritin test is super high (like 1000x normal), you have to treat.

If you work all day with vaxxed people but you're doing yard work, I wouldn't worry. If you live in a small rural community where almost no one is vaxxed and your only contact with the vaxxed is a weekly stop at the grocery store, I wouldn't worry, Peating should take care of you.

But if you're working with a large group of vaccinated people in an office with all windows sealed shut, I'd be concerned. That seems to me the dividing line. Maybe you feel your metabolism and immune system are so strong that you can just use MB and dandelion tea and progesterone. If you don't feel quite that healthy, you might need stronger prophylaxis.

If you're working all day in healthcare with vaxxed patients and coworkers, dealing with bodily fluids and intimate contact all day every day, I'd be using prophylaxis.

If you're living with a vaxxed person and having sex with them, I'd use prophylaxis.

Also, if you seldom have close contact with vaxxed people, but you know you're going to be in a room with a freshly-vaxxed person for a number of hours, I'd use ivermectin before and after that encounter. Freshly-vaxxed people seem to transmit enough mRNA to transmit it to unvaxxed people in close contact. I'd also use a lot of extra progesterone before and after that encounter.

 

[Vileplume]

You could handle it this way, Vileplume.

If you have actual symptoms, you could get a d-dimer and ferritin test. If the d-dimer test is high, you have to treat. If the ferritin test is super high (like 1000x normal), you have to treat.

If you work all day with vaxxed people but you're doing yard work, I wouldn't worry. If you live in a small rural community where almost no one is vaxxed and your only contact with the vaxxed is a weekly stop at the grocery store, I wouldn't worry, Peating should take care of you.

But if you're working with a large group of vaccinated people in an office with all windows sealed shut, I'd be concerned. That seems to me the dividing line. Maybe you feel your metabolism and immune system are so strong that you can just use MB and dandelion tea and progesterone. If you don't feel quite that healthy, you might need stronger prophylaxis.

If you're working all day in healthcare with vaxxed patients and coworkers, dealing with bodily fluids and intimate contact all day every day, I'd be using prophylaxis.

If you're living with a vaxxed person and having sex with them, I'd use prophylaxis.

Also, if you seldom have close contact with vaxxed people, but you know you're going to be in a room with a freshly-vaxxed person for a number of hours, I'd use ivermectin before and after that encounter. Freshly-vaxxed people seem to transmit enough mRNA to transmit it to unvaxxed people in close contact. I'd also use a lot of extra progesterone before and after that encounter.

I appreciate your elaboration on where you believe the dividing line lies. I agree with where you drew it, and appreciate your continued dialogue on this. Thanks Nemo.

 

[Zigzag]

@Nemo I haven't yet, but I might be forced to and I'm mad about it. I'm living with my gf who had two moderna vax doses 2 months ago. Thanks for that protocol.

 

[Makrosky]

@Nemo but we can't live like this forever man. I guess at some point everybody's spike proteins will go down and the prions cleared up, whether vaxxed, unvaxxed, with covid or without it. Or does it mean we have to carry ivermectine pills in our pocket whenever we go to any kind of social interaction? Or regularly do prophylaxis protocols with HCQ, MB, etc... I am asking seriously.

Because if that is the world that awaits us... I prefer to have the damn spike protein.

 

[Nemo]

@Nemo but we can't live like this forever man. I guess at some point everybody's spike proteins will go down and the prions cleared up, whether vaxxed, unvaxxed, with covid or without it. Or does it mean we have to carry ivermectine pills in our pocket whenever we go to any kind of social interaction? Or regularly do prophylaxis protocols with HCQ, MB, etc... I am asking seriously.

Because if that is the world that awaits us... I prefer to have the damn spike protein.

No, Makrosky, that's not what will happen.

At some point, everyone vaxxed will die (that time will be further away for vaxxed people who treat early with something like Fleming's protocol).

Dolores Cahill said it would take 2-3 years for people over 70, 5ish years for the middle aged, 10 years for those in their 20s and 30s.

Spike protein and antibody production are not declining in the vaxxed at a fast enough rate to save them.

Unvaxxed people in close contact with vaxxed people are essentially vaxxed, especially if they were in close contact with the vaxxed person immediately after the injection. The less mRNA they've picked up, the better, but they have to treat early too.

I just posted a video of a doctor saying unvaxxed people have to avoid vaxxed people like the plague, because vaxxed people are the plague. He's a laid-back black American doctor in his 70s, Muslim name, just telling it like it is.

So let's say you're a young person and you're still out there dating. Hunkering down at your home out in a small rural community with no vaxxers is just not an option for you.

I'd avoid freshly-vaxxed people like the plague. If you're dating vaxxed people, I'd be on long-term prophylaxis until you find a nice unvaxxed girl to marry.

I'd start with 12 mg of ivermectin for two days. Then I'd use HCQ for better continuous coverage until you're no longer getting such high exposure. I'd probably use 200 mg HCQ once a week, per the Zelenko protocol, for roughly the next 10 years or until you marry an unvaxxed girl.

You have to deal with the reality of your time, Makrosky. We're at war and we got hit.

Don't be flippant about the risks because you will regret it later. You really do want to live a long, healthy life.

 

[Nemo]

@Nemo I haven't yet, but I might be forced to and I'm mad about it. I'm living with my gf who had two moderna vax doses 2 months ago. Thanks for that protocol.

Zigzag, if you had intimate contact with your gf in the 24-48 hours after the vax, you are at higher risk.

And even if you didn't, you are probably picking up more spike proteins than are safe. I wouldn't mess around with this. I'd do 12 mg ivermectin 2 days in a row, then get started on 200 mg HCQ weekly asap.

If you start showing symptoms of vax adverse effects, I'd talk to a doctor about doing more of the Fleming protocol.

 

[Zigzag]

Zigzag, if you had intimate contact with your gf in the 24-48 hours after the vax, you are at higher risk.

And even if you didn't, you are probably picking up more spike proteins than are safe. I wouldn't mess around with this. I'd do 12 mg ivermectin 2 days in a row, then get started on 200 mg HCQ weekly asap.

If you start showing symptoms of vax adverse effects, I'd talk to a doctor about doing more of the Fleming protocol.

It's been ok for now (besides me losing hair like there's no tomorrow, but I doubt it's connected). Also I'm working with 8 fully vaxed people. 2 of them are got some weird symptoms like runny nose, nose bleeding, heavy headaches, intense eye pain (I mentioned it in the other thread) - they're now at home.