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Can you get someone to bring you in some oj and milk, Nips? Or ask the nurses or dietician to at least give you extra cartons of milk with your food. Usually, the nurses have milk and juice etc. on the floor. Even chocolate milk as that will give you more nutrients and calories to tide you over and allow you to eat less "hospital food." You'd have to be more careful with the juice at the hospital.Nips said:400 UI a day too much?
Can you overdo it?
Im currently in hospital so only have access to hospital food meaning I cant eat a proper diet.
Sorry about that. I should have been more clear. My comment wasn't related to the Vit E, just that you are stuck eating hospital food and how that would horrify me and I'd be looking for other solutions.Nips said:Yeah I get some semi skimmed milk here. Will buy some orange juice.
How do these relate with vitamin e?
I read that Unique E is the best. Whats wrong with the common place vitamin e supplement?
Gabriel said:Too much vitamin e may be harmful and increase mortality
Gabriel said:Too much vitamin e may be harmful and increase mortality, at least if you take some isolated form of vitamin e (i.e. only alpha-tocopherol).
FunkOdyssey said:All we have is good data demonstrating increased risk of dying when you take high doses of vitamin E.
j. said:FunkOdyssey said:All we have is good data demonstrating increased risk of dying when you take high doses of vitamin E.
There is no evidence of that occurring when you take a natural mix of tocopherols. Synthetic and natural alpha-tocopherols are different substances.
FunkOdyssey said:There's no evidence of that occurring, or not occurring, because there are no long-term studies that used high doses of mixed tocopherols looking at mortality rates.
burtlancast said:It's perfectly safe to take 800IU per day of NATURAL alpha tocopherols.
People have been taking up to 4000 IU and even more to solve many different health problems.
The Shute brothers have detailed their 30 year experience with vit E in 5 books.
The only exception is people who contracted rheumatic fever when young and damaged their cardiac valves. Those cannot take more than 150 IU per day.
When one takes more than 400 IU, he needs to monitor their blood pressure, as it can increase temporarly. If this happens, one can use any treatment to lower blood pressure and wait 1 month or 2 for the body to normalise to the increased output of the cardiac muscle.
Vit E is perfectly safe if non synthetic. The pharma industry is yet again trying to demonise vitamins, exactly like it attempted with vit C.
Gabriel said:In the studies with synthetic alpha-tocopherol increased mortality appeared especially in the high dose groups (see fig 3 here. If natural alpha-tocopherol is even more potent than synthetic, I would expect even higher increase in mortality. :2cents
Gabriel said:"The results indicated that natural vitamin E has roughly twice the availability of synthetic vitamin E. " (http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/67/4/669.short)
In the studies with synthetic alpha-tocopherol increased mortality appeared especially in the high dose groups (see fig 3 here. If natural alpha-tocopherol is even more potent than synthetic, I would expect even higher increase in mortality. :2cents
Gabriel said:In the studies with synthetic alpha-tocopherol increased mortality appeared especially in the high dose groups (see fig 3 here. If natural alpha-tocopherol is even more potent than synthetic, I would expect even higher increase in mortality. :2cents