To Haidut : What Do You Usually Eat In A Day?

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  1. tomisonbottom

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    Do you try to get a certain amount of grams of calcium per day?
     
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    Zeus, how many alerts and messages have you been receiving on average each day?
     
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    I try to eat dairy with each meal. Can't say I keep track of calcium much but probably average about 1.5g daily.
     
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    I usually get about 30 alerts from threads and about 10 PMs on a daily basis. They are almost always questions, so not something I can consistently ignore. Those start to increase dramatically if I don't respond, which is why I have been slow to respond over the last 2 weeks - i.e. was "slacking off" for a few days and did not respond and now I have an avalanche to dig myself out of. Oh, and I get about 100-120 emails on a daily basis.
     
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    Caffeine Increases Pregnenolone & Progesterone In The Brain
    Zeus, do you still use caffeine pills? And do you take breaks from all stimulants to sort of sensitize to them again?
     
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    I do, but I only use maybe 1 capsule (200mg) combined with inosine (500mg) when I decide to use it.
     
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    What's the reason for both of these specific amounts?
     
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    Caffeine raises metabolism by about 6%-8% at a dose of just 50mg. A higher dose up to 400mg does not raise metabolism more. A dose higher than 400mg dose MAY raise it up to 12% but tends to trigger a stress reaction. A 200mg caffeine dose is enough to de-fat the liver as per the studies I posted here years ago. Older Russian studies often used inosine with pentoxifylline (a caffeine derivative) to increase the actoprotector effects of inosine and inosine has also been shown to block the anxiety/stress effects of caffeine. This is the ratio those studies listed even though they used different doses.
     
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    Ok, thank you.. for existing.
     
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    I need to get me some inosine. Anyone know any good sources?!
     
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    Georgizord, since we were discussing problems with sulfur proteins when oxidation is impaired, this is relevant and might interest you a lot:

    William F. Koch Research Site

    "The effects of coffee were reported as carcinogenic by Russo in 1942. The roasting or burning produced the carcinogenic tars, in his opinion. This is, no doubt, true but there is an additional factor. It is the presence of Trigonillic acid and other sulphides, which give it the flavor people like. These in the intestinal tract are converted by the flora into more vicious substances since the flora of different individuals differs, as does the prolonged dangerous effects of coffee on the different individuals. However, the flavor giving sulphides act as oxidation inhibitors and protect the vicious intestinal flora. This in itself is good reason not to use it. Dr. Wm. Hale of the Dow Chemical Co. has contrived a neat way of destroying the injurious sulphides by oxidation with Chlorophyll. This takes the pleasing flavor away and the stimulating effects are felt only. Those who have used his coffee extract reported this to me. The old fashion rye coffee may still present the carcinogenic tars, or may not, experiment only can tell, but it does not carry the injurious sulphides, which may after all be the most important toxin coffee."​

    When I read Gerson's book, I completely overlooked the fact that caffeine is the desired part, one of the reasons that coffee enemas work is because caffeine is absorbed while these inconvenients might be simply too diluted and are flushed out before having enough time to cause problems.

    From his book (out of order):

    "The fluid should be retained 10 to 15 minutes. Our experiments have shown that after 10 to 12 minutes almost all caffeine is absorbed from the fluid. It goes through the hemorrhoidal veins directly into the portal veins and into the liver. Patients have to know that the coffee enemas are not given for the function of the intestines but for the stimulation of the liver."

    "Q. What are the principles of the coffee enema?
    A. It opens the bile ducts. This is the principle."

    "In order to initiate healing, the first and constant care of the physician is to detoxify the body, especially the liver-bile system. Coffee enemas are the principal means of detoxifying. The caffeine was found to dilate the bile-ducts and stimulate discharge of accumulated toxins."

    "Camomile Tea Enema with 30 caffeine drops from a ten percent solution. Use one quart of water of body temperature, add half a glass of camomile extract and the prescribed caffeine drops."
    I'm not sure if this one was added later without his consent, but it's still interesting.

    So perhaps it's possible that purified caffeine has its therapeutic value even in critical conditions.
     
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    Thanks, these are very interesting finds. I wonder what Peat think about the carcinogenicity of roasted coffee. At first glance, the mechanism makes sense as roasting/grilling most organic substances tends to generate carcinogenic aromatic poly-hydrocarbons. If the purpose of the caffeine is to open the bile ducts and stimulate the liver then oral caffeine should work just as well, as it goes almost exclusively to the liver. I always thought that the administration of enemas was related to improving digestion, but I guess Gerson does not think so. Peat seems to think the improved digestion and reduction in intestinal toxins was the main beneficial effect.
     
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    I would guess he believes the positives more than outweight any negative. But just like Koch commented, it depends on the person.
    I was thinking in terms of oral supplementation as well.
    From what I understood, Gerson was just reinforcing that coffee was the choice because of its stimulating effect on liver, otherwise the procedure could be done with some antimicrobial plant tea, so I'm guessing he wasn't denying the cleansing aspect of enemas.
     
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    Caffeine by itself also has a stimulating effect on bile flow, liver function, and gastric acid production.
     
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    Do you not drink coffee for convenience purposes, or do you think pure caffeine pills are healthier and safer?
     
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    Mostly convenience, but the taste was never appealing either. I like the taste/smell of tea a lot more.
     
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    Will you ever introduce Flavine Dinkov to Xanthine Bolduev? I think your daughters would get along.
     
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    There are many forum members that have already sorted those two issues (no extreme weight or PUFA in tissues) yet have difficulty maintaining a good state without thyroid. It doesn't seem an issue of being supressed for too long and making up for it now, it appears that it's not working or they're after the extra kick. What do you think is going on in general? When you supplement hormones and manipulate other aspects, aren't you correcting an artificial state?
     
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