Tianeptine Substitutes?

Discussion in 'Tianeptine' started by Terma, Aug 28, 2017.

  1. Dayman

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    selank ≠ semax

    from what I've read selank is anxiolytic and dopaminergic
    and semax is for energy/motivation/focus but serotonergic so stay away from semax


     
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    Thanks I must have misread something
     
  3. ddjd

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    why only 2wice a week?
     
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    doesnt charcoal only reduce endotoxin and estrogen, i dont think it affects serotonin
     
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    Supposedly Activated Charcoal reduces endotoxins which then reduce serotonin in the gut. That's the way it's described here on the forum anyway. Personally it greatly reduces anger/on edge feelings for me which seems to fit the description. Even a couple of capsules works but a handful works better. I'd go slow to start with and have some casacra, coconut oil, vitamin c or similar on hand in case serotonin was the only thing keeping you going. It can slow down the bowels.

    You can pick up some Natures Way capsules at CVS or Walgreens but if it works well for you get it in bulk pounds and take heaping tablespoonfuls. It's absolutely the best supplement I've ever used. Pharmaceutical results and dirt (literally) cheap.
     
  6. ddjd

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    Unfortunately it causes me histamine issues
     
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    Most time I can use without triggering withdrawal periods
     
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    Closest I've come to tia thus far:

    5a-DHP (5-15mg) + adamantane (10-20mg) + caffeine (100-200mg) + sulbutiamine (small spoon, **** it)

    all at once.

    5a-DHP is irreplaceable. It's the only one that successfully fights sleep deprivation and makes the others last long enough to matter.

    Everything else is postponed indefinitely on account of the effects of natural disasters on mail, supposedly.
     
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    Have you ever tried stacking piracetam with lisuride? Or have you tried hydergine?
     
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