Thoughts Of Nofap?

[TheSir]

The need is there, and "controlling" it will signal the body that system is unnecessary and can be atrophied. Like anything else that does not get used. Stress metabolism encourages it's use to reproduce before dying, and unless used accelerates it's atrophy to save resources to hopefully stay alive.

The only thing that will atrophy is your Pavlovian conditioning to sexual stimuli. The gonads will still carry out their metabolic tasks, and the reproductive organs as whole will maintain their functioning so long as you are fit and healthy. As I said above, it is silly to hang on to a simple adage such as "use it or lose it" as if it was some biological truth.

Lastly, there should be no intent to "control" or repress the sexual urge. Surely this will lead to problems on its own. Rather, the sexual urge is to be embraced and allowed to be expressed within your body, without the compulsive need to expulse it.

 

[rei]

This one case is surely different from all the others we know to atrophy without use. Because your religion assures you know better than the millions of years of evolution that taught our physiology that you either spend energy on reproductive health, or when that does not happen you hunker down for long-term survival in hopes of a future time when you can reproduce.

Exactly like PUFA, also NOFAP can allow you to survive a period of starvation with less calories. That is pretty much the extent of their benefits. But NOFAP will make you manic while the body is trying to decide between continuing trying, or atrophy. This mania is what is being sold with the NOFAP brainwashing.

 

[Jing]

This one case is surely different from all the others we know to atrophy without use. Because your religion assures you know better than the millions of years of evolution that taught our physiology that you either spend energy on reproductive health, or when that does not happen you hunker down for long-term survival in hopes of a future time when you can reproduce.

Exactly like PUFA, also NOFAP can allow you to survive a period of starvation with less calories. That is pretty much the extent of their benefits. But NOFAP will make you manic while the body is trying to decide between continuing trying, or atrophy. This mania is what is being sold with the NOFAP brainwashing.

But what about when you can't really ejaculate?? If I ejaculate I always get pain because I have chronic prostatitis?

 

[rei]

Then it might be beneficial to nofap. It puts the prostate into hibernation and reduces the metabolic demand, perhaps allowing it to heal. But the real beneficial method of tackling the problem is to fix whatever is causing the prostatitis (probably cronic fascial tension) as it has high probability of developing into prostate cancer when prolonged.

 

[TheSir]

This one case is surely different from all the others we know to atrophy without use.

You are fallaciously picking characteristics in one phenomenon and equating them with other phenomena. It is highly ironic that you accuse others of delusion and ignorance.

you hunker down
will make you manic

Pick one, and only one.

Hint: celibacy doesn't make you manic. As you know, being manic points to an underlying stressor, in which case your time would be better spent addressing that. Sexual frustration can certainly act as such stressor, which is exactly why are to avoid lusting whenever your intent is to avoid ejaculation. In the end, such frustration is always self-caused by your active thoughts and actions.

 

[Jing]

Then it might be beneficial to nofap. It puts the prostate into hibernation and reduces the metabolic demand, perhaps allowing it to heal. But the real beneficial method of tackling the problem is to fix whatever is causing the prostatitis (probably cronic fascial tension) as it has high probability of developing into prostate cancer when prolonged.

It seems ejaculation even just getting loads of erections without ejaculation puts the muscle in tension though... You see the way I see this is ejaculation is bad but people don't notice it because their bodies handle it well, sort of like how there are loads of people who can smoke and take drugs with not much I'll effects but it doesn't mean smoking and drugs are good for you, someone with less health can notice the bad in stuff more than someone who is healthy.

 

[rei]

Hint: celibacy doesn't make you manic. As you know, being manic points to an underlying stressor, in which case your time would be better spent addressing that. Sexual frustration can certainly act as such stressor, which is exactly why are to avoid lusting whenever your intent is to avoid ejaculation. In the end, such frustration is always self-caused by your active thoughts and actions.

It does, and it is what allows someone to sell such a ridiculous idea. First you go manic to try resume sexual function, then as it fails you atrophy what is not used and settle down closer to depression.

getting loads of erections without ejaculation puts the muscle in tension though...

Yes, the throughout-day erections that start to happen unless you keep the system active are much worse in that regard than ejaculation once weekly. Healthy metabolism limits erections to aroused state, or sleep. But chronic prostatitis might benefit from pushing through the nofap and arriving at the athropied state if it allows healing once there is no activity down there left.

 

[Jing]

It does, and it is what allows someone to sell such a ridiculous idea. First you go manic to try resume sexual function, then as it fails you atrophy what is not used and settle down closer to depression.



Yes, the throughout-day erections that start to happen unless you keep the system active are much worse in that regard than ejaculation once weekly. Healthy metabolism limits erections to aroused state, or sleep. But chronic prostatitis might benefit from pushing through the nofap and arriving at the athropied state if it allows healing once there is no activity down there left.

No ejaculation is worse than the erections lol but erections on there own can sometimes just trigger pain aswell .. why would I have to do nofap if you think ejaculation is healthy ?

 

[rei]

Same reason why someone with a broken leg does not do running. You need to heal the damage first, and only then resume actions that maintain your health through various kinds of hormetic stress signals.

 

[Jing]

Same reason why someone with a broken leg does not do running. You need to heal the damage first, and only then resume actions that maintain your health through various kinds of hormetic stress signals.

But I think excessive ejaculation caused prostatitis in the first place lol

 

[rei]

From my first post in this thread i cautioned against such, it is addiction and overstimulation will cause damages kinda like understimulation. I'm not advocating you watch porn and wank daily. But instead when the built up energy is too much, you release without porn. If you need porn instead of just imagination, you are overdoing it or just amplifying the pleasure, both signs of addiction.