Thiamine: One Of The Main Limiting Factors For Proper Carbohydrate Metabolism

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  1. Cirion

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    Could this be why OJ is so addicting for me? Rich in sugar and thiamine also. I often find myself drinking straight from the OJ jug when I need a quick boost.

    I also find that cheese & jello made with OJ, gelatin, honey to be almost rocket fuel. I'll wake up at midnight and have that for a snack and go from being groggy to so energetic that sometimes it can be hard to go back to bed lol. Didn't RP say one should consider a quart of OJ a day for general stress resistance? :rightagain2
     
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    Can someone please explain why Thiamine HCL in doses of up to 100mg feel VERY different to a simple B-Complex with the same amount? Subjectively, Thiamine on its own is insanely good for mental clarity and energy!
     
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    Isolated from other Bs, it's potassium opposing effect will be highlighted. Thiamine taken alone for several weeks, without counterbalancing with enough K, can lead to hypokalemia.
    It's great for the brain, especially when properly balanced.
     
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    Look it up. I have no horses in this race as I dont eat fruit, but milk and oranges are a much better source of b1 than liver and or eggs.
     
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    Yeah I did look it up on cronometer at the time, just thought it was weird how Peat said the same. Only thing I can think is, Peat is wrong or its more bio available in those foods, a bit like the folate in milk.
     
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    Interesting. Perhaps this is why I have been getting facial twitches so much. Where can I find this antagonistic relationship in the literature?
     
  8. Lokzo

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    Oh SHI*


    Man, I think this must've worsened my Iron status too!

    I was using Thiamine in amounts up to 200mg a week, and also Benfotiamine, which I think now may have contributed to my low iron.

    There's no research on this is there?
     
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    I think there is. I would google thiamine and iron and look around pubmed. Read some studies but its been years
     
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    Also interested in this, I experience facial twitches as well and am using B1 in around 200-300 mg per day.

    I thought there were no risks in taking thiamin isolated, guess I just have to stick to only a b-complex (although I would prefer higher dosages from thiamin and niacinamide)
     
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    Yeah, I really need to back off the Thiamine, despite how much I love how it makes me feel mentally.

    My Iron levels are still struggling to come back up, despite eating a lot of Liver and red meat.

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    wow that ferritin level
     
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    You like how it makes you feel mentally, but wouldn't your dopamine be severely reduced?
     
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    Yeah, I am quite surprised too. I am eating liver every now and then and supping Iron, which is helping.
     
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    I find Thiamine really helps with mental clarity, focus and verbal fluency etc.

    I don't know how it would deplete dopamine? If anything it would help lower serotonin.
     
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    How does one make dopamine without iron?
     
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    Ah yeah, good point. Well, I have struggled to find any evidence to suggest Thiamine can accelerate Iron metabolism and/or deplete iron stores.
     
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