The Value of Continence (self-restraint from sexual activity) (1957)

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http://selfdefinition.org/celibacy/bern ... part-1.htm
http://selfdefinition.org/celibacy/bern ... chosis.htm
http://selfdefinition.org/celibacy/bern ... mistry.htm

Interesting stuff.. :geek:

Peat talks thymus tissue a lot, so this part jumped out at me.

It has also been noted that excessive withdrawal of nucleoproteins and other substances from the blood to form spermatozoa may cause diminution in the size of the thymus gland and its atrophy, which probably is the reason why this occurs after puberty. (Could the atrophy of the pineal gland, accompanying that of the thymus, not be due to a similar cause, in view of the richness of the pineal in lecithin?)

Backmann found that the thymus attains its greatest size and weight just when the spermatogenesis commences, after which it starts to atrophy. Hammar noted that the thymus increases in weight from birth to puberty, but as soon as the first seminal emissions occur, with the onset of puberty, it commences to retrogress and lose weight. These facts indicate that the sexual changes of puberty, instead of being the effect of thymus atrophy at this time, are the cause.
 

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Ray Peat has stated that when puberty starts, the pituitary produces hormones that lead to the down regulation of the metabolism. He actually cites scientist who call the pituitary hormones "the death hormone" because thats when the body becomes prone to less regeneration and metabolic rigor.

However, I doubt that self restrain from sexual activity produces the bigger thymus gland. But the puberty can lead to the decrease of the thymus gland whether sexually active or not. It seems like the sources you cited are trying promote an anti-sexual ideology that doesn't really fit into any objective reality, or in this case; the work of Ray Peat.
 

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Unless we can populate a new planet or get a new plague, decreasing sexual activity might be a good idea :P
The one sucky thing about being on the top of the food chain is there's no population control.
 

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Blinkyrocket said:
Unless we can populate a new planet or get a new plague, decreasing sexual activity might be a good idea :P
The one sucky thing about being on the top of the food chain is there's no population control.

No population control?? or no confirmed population control? I guess we just aren't smart enough to have found out a cure for cancer with all the billions going into the research and all. Then again we haven't really had much war lately to stabilize things, so maybe cancer is natures way of telling us to slow things down.
 

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mt_dreams said:
Blinkyrocket said:
Unless we can populate a new planet or get a new plague, decreasing sexual activity might be a good idea :P
The one sucky thing about being on the top of the food chain is there's no population control.

No population control?? or no confirmed population control? I guess we just aren't smart enough to have found out a cure for cancer with all the billions going into the research and all. Then again we haven't really had much war lately to stabilize things, so maybe cancer is natures way of telling us to slow things down.
Yeah, what if the whole "no cure for cancer" thing is a conspiracy to thin us all down to managable size :shock:
but, most of the world's population is in India and China, so population control is in their hands mostly.
 

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Blinkyrocket said:
Yeah, what if the whole "no cure for cancer" thing is a conspiracy to thin us all down to managable size :shock:
but, most of the world's population is in India and China, so population control is in their hands mostly.

The conspiracy is that they do not want to find a cure, rather they want to be able to stabilize it for long enough to justify the cost, until another disease comes into play ... so it's more about population "control" rather than total population numerically.

Now that China is entering the advanced world, it quickly jumped into population control by limiting childbirth. Places like India & Africa allow many to die from hunger or disease b/c they do not yet have the society advancements to limit childhood & live within the advanced world structure. Baring any plague, once place like Africa & India gets up to speed, we'll probably have a stable population around 12 billion with many moving into the colder regions of canada & russia as a means of space displacement.
 

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mt_dreams said:
Blinkyrocket said:
Yeah, what if the whole "no cure for cancer" thing is a conspiracy to thin us all down to managable size :shock:
but, most of the world's population is in India and China, so population control is in their hands mostly.

The conspiracy is that they do not want to find a cure, rather they want to be able to stabilize it for long enough to justify the cost, until another disease comes into play ... so it's more about population "control" rather than total population numerically.

Now that China is entering the advanced world, it quickly jumped into population control by limiting childbirth. Places like India & Africa allow many to die from hunger or disease b/c they do not yet have the society advancements to limit childhood & live within the advanced world structure. Baring any plague, once place like Africa & India gets up to speed, we'll probably have a stable population around 12 billion with many moving into the colder regions of canada & russia as a means of space displacement.
I feel sorry for those people, russia has a lot of depression and I'm 99% sure it's from environment alone, lots of empty cold barren tundra.
 

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Russia's depression is modern, and it not environmental. This was not a problem back in the days of the Tsar's, most recently the Alexanders. Ever since the mid-1800s, there has been a clash of Jewish & Christian ideaologies, which resulted in the creation of communism. Most jewish relocated by then, christians were not so lucky. The blood line was removed, and the hope was that the country would suffer for a bit, then realize that joining the alliance was better than the experience they were being given. As you may be aware, Russia has since started pouting again, so it's been enjoyable for someone like me who enjoys historical context.
 

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mt_dreams said:
Russia's depression is modern, and it not environmental. This was not a problem back in the days of the Tsar's, most recently the Alexanders. Ever since the mid-1800s, there has been a clash of Jewish & Christian ideaologies, which resulted in the creation of communism. Most jewish relocated by then, christians were not so lucky. The blood line was removed, and the hope was that the country would suffer for a bit, then realize that joining the alliance was better than the experience they were being given. As you may be aware, Russia has since started pouting again, so it's been enjoyable for someone like me who enjoys historical context.
Oh yeah, forgot about communism, heh....
 

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mt_dreams said:
Russia's depression is modern, and it not environmental. This was not a problem back in the days of the Tsar's, most recently the Alexanders. Ever since the mid-1800s, there has been a clash of Jewish & Christian ideaologies, which resulted in the creation of communism. Most jewish relocated by then, christians were not so lucky. The blood line was removed, and the hope was that the country would suffer for a bit, then realize that joining the alliance was better than the experience they were being given. As you may be aware, Russia has since started pouting again, so it's been enjoyable for someone like me who enjoys historical context.

So you support the Tsar's regime in Russia :?: :?:


How did the clash of jewish and christian ideology result in the creation of communism ? That really doesn't make any sense.
 

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So you support the Tsar's regime in Russia :?: :?:

How did the clash of jewish and christian ideology result in the creation of communism ? That really doesn't make any sense.

Well it's tough to support any white history country, so I guess the Tsar's would be included.

Russia was the only white country refusing to join the money ways of the rest of europe & north america. This manifested as a orthodox - jewish struggle. The Jewish people started migrating out of the country late 1800s to the US & to what now considered israel. during WW1 the Tsar bloodline was removed (lots of historical aspects to this), and trotsky with the marxist-lennon manifesto started russia on the path to communism to show just how useless this ideology is to the modern life power struggle of the elite. What ensued was lots of orthodox murders during the stalin purge. This is 1000+ page book topics, so it's tough to simplify.
 
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