The Unvaccinated Will Be Blamed.

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So I am going to put on my idealistic hat and glasses here. But many have spoken about getting into community with those of like mind.
Of building relationships with people that have knowledge of many different skills and talent levels. We may not be able to stop this great reset, as the podcast pointed out, but really as has been discussed do we really want to go back to the way things were pre pandemic. I agree with @Pina that this current reality was being set up for decades, but who says that their great reset is the one that has to come to fruition.
In my experience anything I have ever had a plan about rarely works out the way I envisioned it.
Even the WEF has acknowledged that there will be those that will not go along with these smart city ideals. The world has seen tyrant come and also go, eventually a percentage of the people will wake up. But in the meantime we need to support each other’s needs and lend a helping hand to those in need of one and they in turn will help us out when we are in need.
@haidut you yourself mentioned about experimenting with a homemade chicken feed to increase the androgen promoting properties of eggs. This type of thing would be beneficial to the community just as your supplement experiments have been.
I will agree that there will be many that will find faults and potential problems with this concept but I personally look forward to my problems as these are real life forms of school this is my way to learn best, I never did personally well in classroom style formats, but I excel more when I learn with my hands and something being physically accomplished in front of me.Many in my personal circle are the same way, but our schools do not acknowledge this type of learning any longer or on the scale that is required.
This is an opportunity for us to clean up the food system for ourselves, to try to heal those with treatments that are no longer acceptable because the cure rather than create lifetime pharmaceutical customers.
This will not be easy and perhaps I am naive for thinking this and I recognize and fully accept this but nothing that is ever worthwhile having rarely comes easy and is only worth the effort and sweat put in to building it.

This is all great insight and suggestion, but it is dependent on us being free to live our lives as we see fit. I have not seen any signs yet that the fascist state has loosened its grip or changed plans. The "pandemic" narrative is running out of energy, but all other initiatives continue unabated with 2/3 of people cheering them on. I guess, we will see with the Supreme Court decision on mandates coming soon. If that gets blocked, we may get a break. If it does not...then you can expect 10-fold stronger offensive (and even violence) against the unvaxxed by...the vaxxed. It should become clear this coming week.
 

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I think it is something of their character, that already was there, but no it is more difficult for them to control themselves and to hide it. Other version: I used the right medication, and I am smart again, so I see them through, or they are too stupid to hide things because of vacine.
Indeed there are many components at work in this complex issues. One in the end really can only look after one self, as best as one can given the torrent and storm that is currently all around us.
You are doing okay though @Sofia2020 ? You hopefully do have a network of likeminded and supportive people around you?
 

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I'm sure this is intentional. The education system is awful and it's not even worth bringing up in a discussion about learning.

This community's usefulness in the big picture was originally reducing income for Big Pharma. It branched out into libertarianism, which here is a large-scale concept based on serotonin-signaling biology, learned helplessness, and energy on an individual level. The spiritual health of society is a whole is suffering and there's a threat of it getting sucked into an inescapable whirlpool of degeneracy the likes of 1984.

Sharing information about raising chickens or growing food is indeed a good idea and I think it's unusually absent from this forum, considering home-grown food is healthier, Big Agriculture is another unethical industry which sues farmers and buys their land, there are supply chain problems which put us at risk of hunger or only having bad food, and there's the upcoming global solar minimum which will reduce the growth of food. Another thing I learned of was the ability to buy shares of herds and this is a much easier way to avoid supporting monopolies that will oppress us.

As for the concept of our enemies being our family members because they still support the death of liberty: They are in a different place. Their concerns are entirely different from those who understand the value of independence and freedom. Many people have tried and failed to change the minds of brainwashed family. If the facts are presented and would convince a reasonable person, yet they respond with tension and denial, then they are mentally ill. The only way to convince such a person is to administer a psychotherapeutic substance that prevents this repressive response, and that would arguably be unethical. There is no shortage of people who share an animosity for the powers that be, and would not let you down.
Thank you for your insights @Kayaker, I agree that we cannot change those that carry a different opinion on this topic than we do, nor should we force our opinion upon them and tell them they are wrong, we know we are the minority and to even think of aggression against them could (as some have hypothesized through observation) could turn them violently against us.
The pathway that seems to be the least obstruction (that is not to say it is not difficult or a guaranteed escape route) is that of passive resistance, I have this feeling that we need to show a model of how one can continue to oppose the narrative while still remaining dignified and expressing the empathetic side of our humanity. I believe it was Ghandi that said,” let their actions show their true selves”.
Again this is not easy but it is something that I feel should be considered as a strategy. Keeping in mind of course that those that chose this route historically have had things end badly for them.
 
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Yep, I expanded a bit on that in another post.

So, I am not seeing anybody from the political sphere propose anything as a longer-term solution to the social/environmental problems, and to me that means another pandemic-like psyop in the (near?) future is guaranteed to happen again.
It would be necessary for each individual to improve their health, develop curiosity about their circumstances, and become creative enough to be able to come up with effective solutions to their problems, at the very least, for there to be a possibility of a worthwhile political effort. I don't see how a politician or other public figures could help us meaningfully move in that direction. Maybe an aciddent could cause large numbers of people to reevaluate, like low doses of anti-authoritarian chemicals accidentally leaking into the water supply.
 

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I guess, we will see with the Supreme Court decision on mandates coming soon. If that gets blocked, we may get a break. If it does not...then you can expect 10-fold stronger offensive (and even violence) against the unvaxxed by...the vaxxed. It should become clear this coming week.
The propaganda media is reporting that the justices will probably block/hold the 2 mandates it heard yesterday.

But the administration has a committee studying ways to make the conservative majority ineffective.

Linked in here:


I want to go into 2022 with some positive plans to build a web of real people, not anonymous (well, me too), that can evade, feint & serpentine mandates, mutually aid, & be together. Who can see things are degrading on a big scale & still have good life on a small scale. I still think it can be done.

I need to turn my attention to the building part this year.
 

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I think the Supreme Court will uphold the mandates. The opposite of what people are expecting from a conservative majority. Because of the political pressure that would follow if they don’t.

After all, scotus is part of the state. I don’t think it’s much of a check. if it ever was.

I could be wrong though.

Even the justices started talking about the dangerous, dangerous virus /s. Which is silly b/c the federal question they are deciding is whether the executive has the authority through osha to do that. They aren’t really deciding on OSHA’s definition of workplace threats. But since they can yak about anything during arguments, then they do it.

They are deciding only temporarily anyway, whether to let the circuit courts’ decisions for the mandated stand until they make it through the complex process in the circuits.
 

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My former co-workers vaxxed have to get tested before they show up at work Monday.

I saw them talking online about figuring out how the testing works: “you mean it’s monitored? That’s intrusive. . .well it should be hard. . .for anti-vaxxers.”

That was a real comment. They will find out the testing isn’t serious. I’m not hopeful that will help them think it through.
 
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I woke up this morning while calculating how many crazy people are in my circle, i counted that 2 in every 3, because it seems that they do not try to hide that anymore, few came out very open about how nuts and immoral they are recently, others I knew from the past, but some were a surprise. It is very difficult to meet relaxed genius people.
Some of crazy ones are not dangerous, some are. I also want to share that my coworker was demonstrating mental issues half year after 2 jabs, but immediately got better after the third (so it seems). Maybe it is like a recharge? Change the formula of the vaccine and they all will be dumb? Maybe it was some coincidence.
That us what I am thinking, the boosters are a short recharge. The people I know are definetly changing in various ways after getting the vax.
 

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How do you go on living among enemies that are your neighbors, "friends", "family", etc and lividly hate your guts, and are now not even bothering concealing it?
If the vaccine kills then this won't be any issue any more, I guess.
 

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If the vaccine kills then this won't be any issue any more, I guess.

True. I guess it would be the ultimate irony if the elite, in its efforts to cull the herd, ends up surrounded only by the unvaxxed.
 

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I think the Supreme Court will uphold the mandates. The opposite of what people are expecting from a conservative majority. Because of the political pressure that would follow if they don’t.

After all, scotus is part of the state. I don’t think it’s much of a check. if it ever was.

I could be wrong though.

Even the justices started talking about the dangerous, dangerous virus /s. Which is silly b/c the federal question they are deciding is whether the executive has the authority through osha to do that. They aren’t really deciding on OSHA’s definition of workplace threats. But since they can yak about anything during arguments, then they do it.

They are deciding only temporarily anyway, whether to let the circuit courts’ decisions for the mandated stand until they make it through the complex process in the circuits.
The latest I have heard was 6 to 4.
Mandates for the medical or healthcare sector; but easing up on companies with 100 plus employees.
So a compromise of sorts.

That was this morning.
Things can change quickly.

Justice Roberts was a friend of Epstein, no?
Flew on his plane?
Visited an island?
If so, the elites do indeed also own our Supreme Court.
 

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And then what? As Peat said, at least 60% of the population has revealed themselves to be ruthlessly psychopathic and willing to crush fellow human beings over nothing. The percentage is even higher among doctors, govt officials, etc. You can arrest/try/convict the most visible culprits all you want but it will still be a drop in the sea.
How do you go on living among enemies that are your neighbors, "friends", "family", etc and lividly hate your guts, and are now not even bothering concealing it? Even a small village requires good social cohesion in order to function as a unit. If the pandemic killed one thing for good it is precisely this social cohesion at the local, national, and even international, level. Who will ever again trust a doctor with anything, if that same doctor was pushing killer-vaccines, proving themselves to be both completely incompetent and evil? I mean, in just a year or so medicine has managed to completely compromise itself beyond recovery. What will all those former "doctors" do?
Who will ever trust a political system that quite obviously tries/tried to kill its citizens/patrons that it supposedly serves? Just look at Congress/Senate (assuming you are in the US). Which politician there, aside from maybe 5-10, has not completely exposed himself/herself as a corrupt fraud? Who would one vote for, and what trust there can be that the system won't be commandeered again even if honest people decide to run for office? And once the financial causes of this "pandemic" get unearthed, who will ever trust and participate in a financial system designed from the ground-up to rob, cheat, and crush any semblance of creativity, honesty, hard-work, etc? What about the brainwashing through the education system teaching kids they can decide/choose to be any of 40+ genders, against their parents' advice, and that no matter what their problem is it is always somebody else's fault. This is not an isolated occurrence, this is widespread practice in most of the West.
I am afraid we are in a very advanced state of social decay that cannot be reversed. The Chinese called it a "terminal decline", and at a social level I think they are very right. Not that the Chinese don't have their problems.
Anyways, it looks like most people think the "pandemic" created all this social mess and if the pandemic goes away everything will go back to normal. IMO, it is the other way around - the existing and exacerbating social mess created the "pandemic", so ending the latter won't do much except possibly diffuse direct armed conflict...temporarily.
The way things are looking right now, the very concept of a country may no longer be viable in the West. At least, major border-redrawing may have to occur before any recovery can begin. Even then, it won't answer the question what happens with those 60%+ (the psychopaths). I doubt they will happily form their own country and leave everybody else alone. I stand with @yerrag on this one - there is something rotten about the current social organization, and the pandemic is at most a symptom of it. So far, I have not heard/seen anybody in a position of power propose any solution(s). If anything, even petty politicians seem to be doubling-down on all kinds of insanities that got us in this position to start with. Here is one of the many, many examples.
You totally highlight the true problems. I remember reading like three years ago the US would collapse along with its global power. I forget whose essay it was - but it was good and similar to your post minus the plandemic. I think it is a real possibility that we will see a collapse. Also the essay predicted an eventual return to strength of the US after serious restructuring. After a destructive fire that kills everything, the forest and green regrow. My real question is will these jabs and boosters end up in a massive die off or simply a maimed population? This could matter for after a collapse. I do see more waking up and the die hards believing this nonsense shrinking a bit. Those starting to question might not be loud about it, but they are questioning. I hear comments at work from those I never imagined would see or think differently about the narrative.

The SCOTUS decision will be a turning point either way - more control or more freedom. If they allow the mandate, then everything in the US is clearly full on rotten to its core.
 
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I thought it was real....but its at the top of UK trends on utube and all the comments are praising the doctor, I was surprised comments were even on for the video... thats a major red flag as theres zero chance anything remotely anti-vaxx would of made it into the MSM narrative here.


View: https://www.bitchute.com/video/SqcfL3DMZZcz/

I hope this is not the case but as you said the narrative is shifting.


 

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I hope this is not the case but as you said the narrative is shifting.


Looks like it. Pfizer pills incoming when the routine vaxx idea is suddenly an inconvenience (and enough hesitance/negativity association to the word vaccine) after the masses have enough nano tech in the them to track their every move... and to curb the vaxx sides, keeping them dependent.

 

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The SCOTUS decision will be a turning point either way - more control or more freedom. If they allow the mandate, then everything in the US is clearly full on rotten to its core.

Yep, my take on it too. We will know soon enough.
 
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I learned that most people are in denial about the falling quality of entertainment. The people who acknowledged it were dotted here and there. They were usually more insightful and appreciative of meaningful art, unfortunately cast out by the copists, who I saw even talked about them behind their backs. At the time, I couldn't understand how it is that the majority can't see how "bland" the newer art is compared to the older ones. I attributed it to the majority being "normies" who are bought easily with pretty graphics and animation, cheap action, romance, and sexually suggestive scenes.

One of my relatives is intelligent, well-adjusted, lots of friends, and a pro-vaxxer who believes that things are getting better. The other is dim, depressed and insecure, few friends, and an anti-vaxxer who believes that we are heading to war with China. I believe neither of them are mentally healthy. The former denies reality, possibly to get along with people well. The latter accepts it, and can't handle it. Interestingly, both approved of high-scoring low-quality entertainment that both myself and some others saw as garbage and uncovered the obvious hype campaigns and fake reviews. The dim one is too simple to appreciate deep media. The pro-vaxxer enjoys innovation and sci-fi, but I believe anything that makes him question his underlying structure would be uncomfortable for him. Thus, both are fans of numbing escapist media.
I loved reading your comparisons in this Kayaker. I too, for years, have been amazed at the "cookie cutter", poor quality movies and shows that have been getting so much praise for too many years now, at least since 2000. One time I begged to stay home and mop the floors than to go see the stupid movie everyone was anxious to see. With that being said everyone should watch the original "What Ever Happened To Baby Jane". Movies like this one relied on superb acting and storylines, no explosions or shocking sex scenes were necessary to wake you up. Anyways back to the original point, I thought it odd 15+ years ago that flu vaccines were being promoted at grocery
stores, offering $50 in free groceries if
you got one. I pointed it out to many
people that something was very wrong
about that. Instead of you paying them for a favor, they are now paying you to do
them a favor yikes! As they say "nothing's
for free".
 
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