The Pfizer and Moderna Shots are Safe. Really Safe

[Hgreen56]

Safety data based on more than 17 million Pfizer and Moderna COVID vaccinations was just published in a JAMA online article. How safe were they? Very.


Sorry, anti-vaxxers. If you're hoping to find some bad news about the COVID vaccines, you've come to the wrong site. Perhaps you should try AlienDNA.com, or I'm out of my F#####Mind.org. I've got nothing but good news.
The good news comes to us thanks to a new paper in JAMA Insights. Tom Shimabukuro, MD, MPH, MBA, at the CDC Immunization Safety Office, and colleagues evaluated the chances of vaccine recipients developing anaphylaxis following a shot. It should put you at ease; anaphylactic reactions to both the Pfizer or Moderna COVID vaccines are very rare. More than 17 million vaccines were administered, and only 66 people suffered a reaction.

Time Interval Between Injection and the onset of anaphylactic symptoms

It is no accident that you need to wait around for 15 minutes following your shot. As is the case with most anaphylactic reactions, they happen fast. The median time until onset for both vaccines was 10 minutes. More than 75% of the people who got a reaction developed it within 15 minutes and about 90% within a half-hour (source for this and subsequent figures JAMA Insights).
The First Shot is Riskier than the Second
It is not surprising that people who developed symptoms did so much more frequently after the first shot than the second:

...or that the people who ran into trouble had a history of allergic reactions in the past (1).

The Bottom (and Very Good) Line - An Excellent Safety Profile

If you're worried about a bad reaction to the vaccine, this should put your mind at ease. The incidence of anaphylactic reactions was very low – 4.7 per million (0.00047%) for Pfizer and 2.5 per million (0.00025%) for Moderna. These are not the kind of numbers you should be worried about. To put this in context (and for some yuks), here are some common activities and the risk of dying.

Source: Mental Floss
Don't take this too seriously. It's a comparison of dying from a completely unrelated set of activities and a reaction to a vaccine. But it points out how unlikely you are to have a serious reaction to either vaccine; it's a bit riskier than jogging and a bit less risky than bicycling. Most people don't give either of these a second thought.
So based on data from more than 17 million shots, your chances of an anaphylactic reaction are vanishingly small.
What Happened to the People Who Ran Into Trouble?
There is good news here as well. Of the 66 people (17 million shots) who had reactions, 92% received emergency epinephrine treatment; half were treated in the ER, and half were admitted. Seven people required intubation; no one died. And keep in mind that more than three-quarters of this group had a history of allergies or prior anaphylactic episodes. For the rest of us, the chance of running into this problem is close to zero.
So, don't worry. Relax and go for a jog or a swim and go get vaccinated. Just be extra careful if you bike there.
NOTES:
(1) The allergic triggers included about 20 substances, including vaccines, drugs, latex, and nuts.
(2) In this article I am only reporting on anaphylaxis and only in the US. Since 193 million shots (across the world) have been given, small numbers of other adverse reactions, even deaths could be possible. And very unlikely.

sourche

edit: its also FDA approved

 

[Peatness]

You should use this thread to update us on your ongoing good health following your jabs. Which one did you get Pfizer or Moderna? Are you due boosters this autumn?

 

[tankasnowgod]

Safety data based on more than 17 million Pfizer and Moderna COVID vaccinations was just published in a JAMA online article. How safe were they? Very.


Sorry, anti-vaxxers. If you're hoping to find some bad news about the COVID vaccines, you've come to the wrong site. Perhaps you should try AlienDNA.com, or I'm out of my F#####Mind.org. I've got nothing but good news.
The good news comes to us thanks to a new paper in JAMA Insights. Tom Shimabukuro, MD, MPH, MBA, at the CDC Immunization Safety Office, and colleagues evaluated the chances of vaccine recipients developing anaphylaxis following a shot. It should put you at ease; anaphylactic reactions to both the Pfizer or Moderna COVID vaccines are very rare. More than 17 million vaccines were administered, and only 66 people suffered a reaction.

Time Interval Between Injection and the onset of anaphylactic symptoms
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It is no accident that you need to wait around for 15 minutes following your shot. As is the case with most anaphylactic reactions, they happen fast. The median time until onset for both vaccines was 10 minutes. More than 75% of the people who got a reaction developed it within 15 minutes and about 90% within a half-hour (source for this and subsequent figures JAMA Insights).
The First Shot is Riskier than the Second
It is not surprising that people who developed symptoms did so much more frequently after the first shot than the second:
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...or that the people who ran into trouble had a history of allergic reactions in the past (1).

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The Bottom (and Very Good) Line - An Excellent Safety Profile
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If you're worried about a bad reaction to the vaccine, this should put your mind at ease. The incidence of anaphylactic reactions was very low – 4.7 per million (0.00047%) for Pfizer and 2.5 per million (0.00025%) for Moderna. These are not the kind of numbers you should be worried about. To put this in context (and for some yuks), here are some common activities and the risk of dying.

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Source: Mental Floss
Don't take this too seriously. It's a comparison of dying from a completely unrelated set of activities and a reaction to a vaccine. But it points out how unlikely you are to have a serious reaction to either vaccine; it's a bit riskier than jogging and a bit less risky than bicycling. Most people don't give either of these a second thought.
So based on data from more than 17 million shots, your chances of an anaphylactic reaction are vanishingly small.
What Happened to the People Who Ran Into Trouble?
There is good news here as well. Of the 66 people (17 million shots) who had reactions, 92% received emergency epinephrine treatment; half were treated in the ER, and half were admitted. Seven people required intubation; no one died. And keep in mind that more than three-quarters of this group had a history of allergies or prior anaphylactic episodes. For the rest of us, the chance of running into this problem is close to zero.
So, don't worry. Relax and go for a jog or a swim and go get vaccinated. Just be extra careful if you bike there.
NOTES:
(1) The allergic triggers included about 20 substances, including vaccines, drugs, latex, and nuts.
(2) In this article I am only reporting on anaphylaxis and only in the US. Since 193 million shots (across the world) have been given, small numbers of other adverse reactions, even deaths could be possible. And very unlikely.

sourche

Sooo, you claim the deadliest "vaccines" in all of history are "safe," just because someone at the CDC says so?

Welp, have fun going to get your shot then.

Why are you even on this forum? It's pretty clear you just want to follow mainstream health advice.

Posting this is especially ridiculous since the paper stopped gathering data in mid-January, and was published in February, so not exactly "new," or "just published," considering 140 million people were vaxxxed afterwards, and the VAERS death toll has absolutely skyrocketed to over 6,000, which is more VAERS reported deaths than all other vaccines from the past 3 decades COMBINED.

 

[metabolizm]

It’s only talking about death from anaphylaxis.

 

[Hugh Johnson]

There are probably more than 66 videos of people shaking after the vaccine. There was one where two people had a reaction in the parking lot after the vaccine. I don't think the data they are using is reliable.

More importantly, the immediate reaction is not my main concern. It's the systematic and long term effects that worry me.

 

[LucyL]

Anaphylaxis!

 

[Hgreen56]

There are probably more than 66 videos of people shaking after the vaccine. There was one where two people had a reaction in the parking lot after the vaccine. I don't think the data they are using is reliable.

More importantly, the immediate reaction is not my main concern. It's the systematic and long term effects that worry me.

Lets do some calculation
Let say every video is from one person.
66 videos = 66 people world wide got a rare allergic reaction or having just a panic attack after being vaccinated.
Millions of people world wide are vaccinated with no problems or have little temporary flo/like symptoms after it. whats a good thing beceause it is a sign you immune system is working perfectly.


Well now lets look at the millions of unvaccinated people they have end up in the hospital last months.
They become very sick and after a year they are still not fully recovered from it.
Or they die... (Healthy people too)

Hmmm..... what is more dangerous to your health.... the virus or the vaccine...

Inside a hospital ward where more than 60% of Covid patients have had no vaccine | ITV News

More than 60% of Covid patients in Royal Preston Hospital haven’t been vaccinated. It’s such a large figure, it’s almost incredulous, writes Emily Morgan. | ITV National News

www.itv.com

 

[Riesensackteil]

Nice, now we know that there is a 0.00025-0.00047% chance to get anaphylaxis 30 minutes directly after the jab.
Game changer

 

[Peatness]

I wonder what Tiffany Dover would have made of these studies? Shame we can’t ask her!

 

[Orome]

Hmmm..... what is more dangerous to your health.... the virus or the vaccine...

The vaccine!!

 

[Lord Cola]

So disingenuous. Hope you're at least getting paid enough to do this.

 

[Peater Griffin]

It is just illogical to call these vaccines safe. Any medication has to be in use for at least 20 years (40 to 50 years would be better) until you can tell about possible long-term side-effects. How long are these vaccines in use? 1 year? Why would they be an exception? Pls enlighten us.

 

[Sweet Meat]

Hmmm..... what is more dangerous to your health.... the virus or the vaccine...

well, some people look past the needle and are concerned how vaccines are becoming mandatory. in the uk many thousands of care workers just resigned because the government has made it illegal for them to continue working if they don't get the jib jab.

i've never seen any evidence that the virus actually exists at all, so naturally, i'm sceptical of the vaccine and see it as nothing but a social experiment. i'm going to assume you are a firm believer in the great covid and a firm believer that normal is just around the next lockdown

and i'm sure you're right

 

[Sweet Meat]

So disingenuous. Hope you're at least getting paid enough to do this.

a sad fact about modern society is that many shills are just dejected teens trolling strangers by saying stuff they don't actually believe...too stupid to realize they could be getting paid for it, but still stupid enough to endorse a system that hurts them lol

 

[Donnea]

The people shaking uncontrollably from the vaccine are not experiencing an allergic reaction. What would make you think that is an allergy??
There was a lawsuit filed yesterday. Apparently there are 11 different agencies to report adverse reactions to vaccines to. One of those alone, you have 45000 deaths reported within 3 days of getting the experimental drug. That is what the lawsuit is about. According to another reporting agency, VEARS, their numbers show that more people have died from the covid jabs that all other vaccines *combined over the past 20 years*. And you are saying it is "very safe"? Read the numbers instead of adhering to a political narrative.

You might also want to look up Dr David Martin, who has looked into the patents. It's very interesting indeed. There is nothing novel about the sarscov2. Every part of it has already been patented for years. This is public info, so feel free to look into that and fact check him.

Remember the fake study on how dangerous HCQ was in the Lancet? The one that was retracted, but the "news" didn't report on it. Doctors were still blocked form using it (politicians telling doctors how to doctor!). You see, if there was an actual effective treatment, an emergency use vaccine could not be approved. So they had to get HCQ out of the way, and discredit other effective treatments such as ivermectin. Fauci knew back in 2005, when he wrote an article on how effective HQC was against coronaviruses. You would have thought HCQ would have been the first thing he'd think of to try when covid broke out.
They stand to make billions from this vaccine, and they don't want some cheapo drug standing in the way.
Really, do your research and stop playing politics with people's lives. If i looks like a duck, walks like a duck, it's probably a duck!
The rich and powerful have always gotten together, had meetings, about how to better their own positions. Now suddenly even thinking that they do, is a "conspiracy theory", and is written off by the mindless. Even when there is proof, it's written off as "crazy". Don't help big pharma hurt people even more. Isn't that was Ray Peat is all about, thinking for yourself, discovering that pharma has an agenda and it isn't your health?!

 

[LucyL]

Covid-19 Vaccines Lead to New Infections and Mortality: The Evidence is Overwhelming - Global Research

Vaccination has spread worldwide. And everywhere it has been followed by a dramatic rise in new infections and mortality. How many deaths and severe accidents will it take for governments, WHO, health agencies FDA, EMA, to look at the proven results of this experimental pseudo-vaccination?

www.globalresearch.ca

also

 

[Callmestar]

Is this a joke? It's simply looking at anaphylaxis shortly after the jab and nothing else. Anaphylaxis is rarely the problem caused by Covid jabs, the list of reactions other than Anaphalaxisis vast.

 

[tankasnowgod]

Well now lets look at the millions of unvaccinated people they have end up in the hospital last months.
They become very sick and after a year they are still not fully recovered from it.
Or they die... (Healthy people too)

Ridiculous. The COVID death count in the most overinflated death count in all of history. Anthony Colpo broke it down better than anyone-

The Official COVID-19 Death Toll is a Big Fat Fraud

As I write this, the popular facts and figures website worldometer.info is reporting 578,975 COVID-19 deaths for the US, through 15 April 2021. The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) website claims that, as of 15 April 2021, there have been 561,356 deaths from COVID-19. I'm...

anthonycolpo.com

By the way, the best quote from Colpo's Article-

When we have data from clinical trials involving people largely free of comorbidities returning a zero death rate among non-vaccinated people with confirmed COVID-19, then we have every reason to suspect that the actual cause of death among the 95% of comorbid US COVID-19 victims was not COVID-19 - it was their comorbidities.

Yep, read that again. The drug companies looooooove to improve their odds, by selecting very healthy people to be involved in the trials. But as Colpo points, out, the people in the non-vaccinated group of every single vaccine trial returned a ZERO death rate.

Hmmm..... what is more dangerous to your health.... the virus or the vaccine...

Also a ridiculous question. The vaccine is obviously very, very dangerous to you health, with 6000 deaths reported to VAERS, over 700 cases of stroke, 1000 miscarriages, 4000 heart attacks, 2000 cases of myocarditis... and so on. And meanwhile, there is NO OFFICIAL CLAIM that any of the vaccines lower your chances of hospitalizations due to COVID, your chance of serious complications due to COVID, or death from/with COVID (whatever that means). The ONLY claim of the vaccines is that they can lower positive PCR test results for COVID, based on the RCTs that got them approved. And.... that's it.

The real question is, what's more dangerous..... Covid, or Coivd plus all the side effects of the vaccines (since they offer no protection to more serious consequences).

The answer is obvious. It's the second one.

 

[Jon2547]

The devils mixes truth with lies.

 

[Hugh Johnson]

Lets do some calculation
Let say every video is from one person.
66 videos = 66 people world wide got a rare allergic reaction or having just a panic attack after being vaccinated.
Millions of people world wide are vaccinated with no problems or have little temporary flo/like symptoms after it. whats a good thing beceause it is a sign you immune system is working perfectly.


Well now lets look at the millions of unvaccinated people they have end up in the hospital last months.
They become very sick and after a year they are still not fully recovered from it.
Or they die... (Healthy people too)

Hmmm..... what is more dangerous to your health.... the virus or the vaccine...

Inside a hospital ward where more than 60% of Covid patients have had no vaccine | ITV News

More than 60% of Covid patients in Royal Preston Hospital haven’t been vaccinated. It’s such a large figure, it’s almost incredulous, writes Emily Morgan. | ITV National News

www.itv.com

That's not really a good argument. dismissing all the people having immediate reactions as panic attacks is not reasonable. Most people have gotten plenty of injections.

Second point is even weaker. We need to compare vaxxed and unvaxxed on a population level over the course of couple of years to get solid data. We have seen increasing hospitalization in Israel, and the heavily vaccinated Britain, and others, are going into lockdown again while the unvaccinated countries are free.