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If it’s IGF1 then it still doesn’t explain why females do not get MPB?
also, a lot of talk about “hunter gatherers” but how do we know they didn’t experience MPb either.
Females have remarkabley less IGF-1
Testosterone/DHT increase IGF-1 by several fold.
I think it’s good to share these ideas, and for my own situation I do consider them, but what of someone like my older brother who eats whatever he wants, all of the bad hair foods you mention, and is not balding (by your definition). I would say he is diffuse thinning, but no vertex or temple balding. He’s always had a good hairline and eats very heavy protein and zero exercise. I would classify him as unhealthy, diabetic, hypothyroid, and on a path to self-destruction.I spent many hours on planes analysising males and vertex balding is 100% IGF-1/IGFB3 ratio. I’ve never been this certain in my life.
The ticket Balding is sitting on your **** and eating huge amounts of protein/fat. About the most unnatural thing for humans since the dawn of time.
Eggs, milk, meat throughout the day is extremely unnatural. Tons of methaionine with little glycine, floating around and increasing IGF-1 skull/collagen begun to grow/bundle after high school sports are over and vertex balding comenses. Recession of the temples is first and slowly that comenses to full cap baldness
what explains norwood pattern in your theory?Every male with balding has the same old vertex balding. Skull and collagen grow as theIGF-1/ IGFBP3 ratio Is down to control the excess growth. The follicle is starved off from access to glucose and nutrients. The follicle shrinks. The follicle dies, the skin without access to nutrients becomes fibrotic, calcifies and goes dormant.
I think it’s good to share these ideas, and for my own situation I do consider them, but what of someone like my older brother who eats whatever he wants, all of the bad hair foods you mention, and is not balding (by your definition). I would say he is diffuse thinning, but no vertex or temple balding. He’s always had a good hairline and eats very heavy protein and zero exercise. I would classify him as unhealthy, diabetic, hypothyroid, and on a path to self-destruction.
Ray peat has avoided PUFA , taking the proper supplements to support metabolism for many decades... tell me why is he balding?
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Lol at the skull expansion theory. So somehow back in the day a man who was super old and was on benaxaprofen after. Sunburn regrew hair entirely in that area. Somehow the skull shrank. ... the skull expansion theory not only has zero science behind it it explains nothing. It works outside all the frameworks or science we have ever developed.
It’s def about muscle and skin on scalp it may even be related to bone. But people are not losing their hair because their heads are getting bigger.It may not be skull/bone but it maybe about muscles/skin on scalp.
It’s def about muscle and skin on scalp it may even be related to bone. But people are not losing their hair because their heads are getting bigger.
It’s def about muscle and skin on scalp it may even be related to bone. But people are not losing their hair because their heads are getting bigger.
Ray peat has avoided PUFA , taking the proper supplements to support metabolism for many decades... tell me why is he balding?
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His hairline is basically unchanged for decades.
I think a suitable analogy is the following: running on stress hormones will have you thinking you're a Ferrari, when you're not. Running on stress hormones is like getting yourself in debt, borrowing money from the future. And at some point you will have to pay back your debt.The internet really tricks people into thinking they’re a Ferrari when they’re a Camry at best. That’s why I’ve given up on helping people online: everybody thinks they’re knowledgeable when in fact they’re skinny and bald.
One of my friends is NW0 at 28, perfect hairline, but diffuse thinning rapidly all over the scalp. I don't think he has any idea what's coming for him, not sure I should tell him gently. What's the cause of this?
He has a vertical "Chad" forehead, I think that's why his temples have holded strong.
Sloped forehead = guaranteed temple recession?
Vertical forehead = NW0?
I also know another guy who has the same, he's 31. NW0 and diffuse thinning.
@Mossy How does your brother's forehead look?
I think a suitable analogy is the following: running on stress hormones will have you thinking you're a Ferrari, when you're not. Running on stress hormones is like getting yourself in debt, borrowing money from the future. And at some point you will have to pay back your debt.
This brings the question, what determines whether yoy're a Camry or something else? Genes, resillence to stress, childhood development leading to a more robust organism.
Yet it’s extremely uncommon to witness someone with juvenile hairline and density (male or female) and an abnormal skull: elongated forehead, protruding, oversized, whatever. Put it differently, every single time I see an adult with perfect hair and density (male or female) they don’t have an oversized oblong skull.
since people on the internet only seem to argue with arbitrary N=1s.... here’s a funny avatar from this forum. Sums it all up nicely
Chin to brow = same length
Massive skull is the epitome of bald
Normal skull has quasi juvenile hair
All i am gonna say is ive done measurements and that people who are bald APPEAR to have big heads.
All i am gonna say is ive done measurements and that people who are bald APPEAR to have big heads.