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Hey can you give some follow up? I’m looking to purchase after reviewing your post
I've only use thiamine HCL and allithiamine so far, but I like the HCL more than the allithiamine. I like 300mg doses more than lower doses. Haven't tried really high doses yet.
Apparently negative reactions happen more frequently when taking TTFD than when taking other types of thiamine. Elliot Overton has a good video about dealing with side effects. Check out his youtube channel; he has a lot of very good videos about thiamine.Its different for everyone. Some do well on HCl, while others thrive on TTFD. Benfo is a winner for others. Some seem to react to the sulfur in the TTFD which I think its possible thats the case for me. I seem to do best on HCl and Benfo along with nutritional yeast to fill in the gaps. Oh, and I do most of b vitamins topical, when ingested I find it can push gut biome in the wrong direction due to feeding of the critters (@Tarmander et el 2020). Another thing is limiting pure sugar, I think many come to Peat and "sugar it up"(table sugar) leading them to Beriberi hell. That is one thing I would have done different if I knew then what i know now, less plain sugar, and more natural sugars ala milk, fruits, honey, and maybe whole wheat rusk bread?(@paymanz et el 2020)
Also, Lipothiamine is composed of alpha lipoic acid, so if you are one of the people who is staying away from that compound, then do not use the Lipothiamine formula. Whereas, allithiamine/TTFD by itself has no ALA. ALA is known to liberate heavy metals, but then if not used every so many hours, can redistribute the metals in the body, causing further problems. I personally would just use the allithiamine by itself.
Been using this under the tongue as suggested by someone on the forum. I've also use the capsule form but the liquid under the tongue seems to have a superior absorption rate for me. I use several drops at a time. This is a good article
www.eonutrition.co.uk
The oral pyrophosphate dose you don’t do high doses right? No need?Been using this under the tongue as suggested by someone on the forum. I've also use the capsule form but the liquid under the tongue seems to have a superior absorption rate for me. I use several drops at a time. This is a good article
Mega-Dose Thiamine: Beyond Addressing “Deficiency”
Throughout the past few years, I have been prescribing thiamine more and more often for individuals with a range of different health conditions. I have witnessed major symptomatic improvement in some people who displayed none of the key risk factors for thiamine deficiency, and many times had...
From the article
- Thiamine pyrophosphate protected rat liver against cisplatin toxicity, whilst thiamine was just as effective as NAC in protecting the liver against acetaminophen toxicity
- Thiamine was shown to protect cells against radiation induced genetic changes and injury
- Thiamine and benfotiamine both counteract ultrasound-induced aggression, normalize AMPA receptor expression and plasticity markers, and reduce oxidative stress in mice
- High dose thiamine alleviates biomarkers related to oxidative stress and inflammation in lead toxicity in animal research
- Thiamine pyrophosphate prevented infertility induced by ischemia-related injury in rats
- Pretreatment with high doses of thiamine also protected cardiac myocytes against hypoxia-induced apoptosis and DNA fragmentation through increasing Heat-shock-protein 70.
- Thiamine improves markers of metabolic dysfunction and glucose metabolism and exerts anti-fatigue effects by attenuating the decrease in ATP content in skeletal muscle fatigued induced by workload.
That’s a high dose of HCL, any insomnia? What do you like about 300 vs lower ?
No insomnia. At 300mg, I start getting smooth consistent nootropic benefits.
