Testimonial For Niacin - It Just Works

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Thanks for the reply.
If niacin shouldn't be used for healing the gut (SIBO, bloating) mentioned, is there a food substitute that you are aware of that is comparable?

(Gelatin, carrot salad, isn't cutting it)
 

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How long does it take to get a flush reaction?
Couple minutes after intake? or couple hours?

Empty stomach would be very quick. But if taken with food it depends on how long it takes the food to digest and start leaving the stomach so niacin can start being absorbed.
 

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This morning i was taking 500mg niacin with a meal.
Couple hours later i realized that i have not noticed some kind of flush feelings.

This evening a got again 500mg with a meal and now 1 hour later... i am on fcking fire :woot: lol.
Jezus christ i can take a ice bath now without getting cold. :shower:
if i was unaware of this side effect than probably i was freaking out.

not sure why i wasn't feeling anything from the first dose...

My Tinnitus is also getting worse now..
So more blood flow increase tinnitus... never imagined that...
 
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Found this...

EDIT: I've looked back in the book, and Hoffer cites sustained-release niacine ( designed not to cause flushing) that causes liver toxicity. Niacinamide is harmless. My bad.

"Sustained-, extended-, and time-release niacin are often advertised as not causing a flush at all. This claim may not be completely true; sometimes the flush is just postponed. It may be difficult to determine your optimum level with an extended-, sustained-, or time-release product. All three are also more costly. But the biggest reason to avoid sustained-release niacin is that relatively more reports of side effects stem from use of that form. 7A 2007 review by Guyton and Bays of many niacin therapy studies reveals that regular (“ immediate release,” or IR) niacin is quite safe; extended- or time-release are safe, but unnecessarily pricey, and sustained release (SR) has the most side effects. They write: Shortly after Altschul and colleagues described cholesterol lowering by niacin in 1955, sustained-release (SR) formulations were developed in an attempt to reduce flushing. However, these were quickly found to be hepatotoxic in some patients. . . . Henkin et al. 19found 8 cases of hepatitis in 15 patients using SR niacin, compared with none in 67 patients using regular niacin. Three patients who had experienced hepatitis with SR niacin were subsequently able to tolerate equal or higher doses of regular niacin. 20McKenney et al. 3directly compared IR and SR niacin in a randomized clinical trial with dosage escalation from 500 to 3,000 mg/ day over a period of 30 weeks. None of the 23 patients taking IR niacin developed hepatotoxic effects, whereas 12 of 23 patients (52%) taking SR niacin did. The increase in liver toxicity with SR niacin mainly occurred with doses 1,500 mg/ day. 8[ Citations numbered as in original source.

It's all in the book.

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Niacinamide Or Just Plain Niacin?
 

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So I've been suffering from a host of GI related issues, which you can tell from my post history. Today I tried some Niacin (500mg), as opposed to Niacinamide as I wasn't getting a flush with it and have instead been giving that to my sister to help with her mental issues. Both me and my sister took the 500mg with breakfast, but I got zero flush what so ever ---she became a beetroot lol. Does this mean I'm completely Niacin deficient?
 

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So I've been suffering from a host of GI related issues, which you can tell from my post history. Today I tried some Niacin (500mg), as opposed to Niacinamide as I wasn't getting a flush with it and have instead been giving that to my sister to help with her mental issues. Both me and my sister took the 500mg with breakfast, but I got zero flush what so ever ---she became a beetroot lol. Does this mean I'm completely Niacin deficient?

No flush means you have very low histamine/PGE-1, which explains GI issues as well. Low histamine types will have very poor digestion and are prone to gastrointestinal disorders.
 

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No flush means you have very low histamine/PGE-1, which explains GI issues as well. Low histamine types will have very poor digestion and are prone to gastrointestinal disorders.

What does it mean when I'm flushing at 100 mg and then it goes away after a couple of weeks? I think I'll try 200 mg and see what happens.
 

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No flush means you have very low histamine/PGE-1, which explains GI issues as well. Low histamine types will have very poor digestion and are prone to gastrointestinal disorders.

That's fascinating thank you - user mrchibbs and myself have come to the conclusion I have some serious gut bacteria. My symptoms developed suddenly and with high intensity - could the gut bacteria be responsible for the low histamine/PGE-1? Or perhaps tobacco smoking? Prior to my issues I had literal perfect digestion my entire life. Really informative so thanks again!
 

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somewhat related, she claims that fixing D deficiency leads to B deficiency down the line
 

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That's fascinating thank you - user mrchibbs and myself have come to the conclusion I have some serious gut bacteria. My symptoms developed suddenly and with high intensity - could the gut bacteria be responsible for the low histamine/PGE-1? Or perhaps tobacco smoking? Prior to my issues I had literal perfect digestion my entire life. Really informative so thanks again!

Low histamine can cause low stomach acid, thus problems with the gut bacteria like SIBO etc. They also tend to have poor digestion of most foods.
 
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