Test estrogen or estradiol?

freyasam

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My lab offers both--which would give a better picture of my hormonal situation?

I'm testing mid-luteal phase (ie, a few days after ovulation).

Thanks in advance
 

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freyasam, if you don't mind me asking are you having blood work done for a specific reason or to try and pinpoint something in particular? I read your recent thread about your difficulties with Progest-E and with thyroid supplementation and I'm assuming you already know that Ray doesn't think that measuring the amount of estrogen circulating in the blood is necessarily a very useful measurement because it doesn't represent the concentration of estrogen that is bound up in the organs and tissues of the body.
 
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Hi loess,

I'm trying to determine if I'm really estrogen dominant, since in the past my blood work showed low estrogen and normal progesterone. He says that measuring mid-luteal will be the most accurate as at this time the difference between tissue and serum estrogen is smallest.

I'm really at a loss for what to do with my health problems and need to get better asap. I'm wondering if I should stop progest-e and maybe even supplement estrogen (I know supplementing estrogen is not recommended in the peating community, but at this point I haven't found any solutions to actually help me in the peating community, so....). I'd also like to have some idea if I'm going through menopause at the age of 35. :(
 

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I hear you, trying to get to the bottom of it all can be frustrating since so much of the function and symptoms of hormonal imbalance overlap with each other. Have you tried vitamin E supplementation during the periods of time that you aren't taking Progest-E? Since progesterone frees up tissue-bound estrogen, I wonder if perhaps you're experiencing the results of large quantities of estrogen being dumped into your bloodstream (especially during and around times of ovulation) without it being actually escorted out of your body in an efficient way. You might be re-absorbing a lot of it and ending up back at square one the next time around, especially if your liver function is less than optimal. There are undoubtedly other factors at play to consider, but vitamin E can very reliably and directly reduce symptoms of high estrogen. Same goes for the carrot.
 
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Yes, taking Lotioncrafter E (1/4 tsp, sometimes 1/2 tsp) throughout cycle and eating carrot...
 

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freyasam said:
My lab offers both--which would give a better picture of my hormonal situation?

I'm testing mid-luteal phase (ie, a few days after ovulation).

Thanks in advance

If the lab offers it, ask for testing all 3 - estradiol, estrone, and estriol. Most doctors think that only estradiol matters but this far from true as Peat has written about. For instance, estrone is considered an "inactive" estrogen and a much weaker one than estradiol, and most doctors think it can do no harm. However, it is precisely estrone that in men causes varicose veins, liver cancer and a number of other bad diseases. Just look at its Wikipedia page, which makes it even more amazing/sad that even though the information is out there most doctors are oblivious to it. The important thing to remember from Peat's writings is that there is really no such thing as a "weak" estrogen. If any one of the 3 I listed above is elevated in your blood then it will cause problems and have to be addressed. Most aromatase inhibitors will lower all 3, and a good natural option is a combination of vitamin E and nettle root.
 

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