Supplementing Vitamin K2: Why You Must Take MK-7 (not MK-4)

[Inaut]

Sorry for the sensationalist headline. Just thought I’d post the official title. More for discussion than anything else.

Btw, since switching to mk7, I’ve grown to like it more. Regarding benefits of mk4, I never experienced noticeable effects but that doesn’t mean they were occurring physiologically.

 

[ecstatichamster]

MK7 didn’t stop aspirin bleeding. On,y mk4.

 

[Inaut]

Mine is the opposite I found... I was still getting nose bleeds on mk4..not lately

AnywYs, he talks about estrogen later in the video and it turned me off...plus he’s selling his product.

My take away from the video was that the body can cleave mk4 out of mk7 when needed. Not sure how true that is and he mentioned optimal dosage for mk7 was around 300mcg. My cliff notes

 

[BigChad]

Mine is the opposite I found... I was still getting nose bleeds on mk4..not lately

AnywYs, he talks about estrogen later in the video and it turned me off...plus he’s selling his product.

My take away from the video was that the body can cleave mk4 out of mk7 when needed. Not sure how true that is and he mentioned optimal dosage for mk7 was around 300mcg. My cliff notes

Whats the benefit of mk7 over mk4? It has much longer half life but supposedly has anti 5ar activity. Mk4 seems to be the only one safe to megadose. It also seems very safe, no observed toxicity issues?

 

[Korven]

Mk7 makes me feel really strange and not in a good way, like I'm on some dirty dissociative drug.

Switching to Mk4 stopped that from happening so I'll probably probably stick with that for now.

Ideally I would like to get k2 from food sources, are there any good ones besides liver?

 

[ecstatichamster]

Mi4 is physiological. MK7 comes from natto.

 

[Adrenaline]

Why not both?

 

[BigChad]

Mk7 makes me feel really strange and not in a good way, like I'm on some dirty dissociative drug.

Switching to Mk4 stopped that from happening so I'll probably probably stick with that for now.

Ideally I would like to get k2 from food sources, are there any good ones besides liver?

Emu oil for mk4.grass fed butter and milk have mk4 but unsure of amount. Mk7 is in fermented foods, seems like mostly fermented soy foods

What feeling do u get from mk7
What dosage did u use

 

[baccheion]

I like the combo of vitamin K doses present in Thorne's 3-K complete. Beautiful.

 

[Dave Clark]

If MK7 has a half life of 72 hours, why not just take it maybe three times/week, and then on alternate days do some MK4?

 

[Dave Clark]

Sorry for the sensationalist headline. Just thought I’d post the official title. More for discussion than anything else.

Btw, since switching to mk7, I’ve grown to like it more. Regarding benefits of mk4, I never experienced noticeable effects but that doesn’t mean they were occurring physiologically.

I know this Krishnan guy, he promotes that Megaspore probiotic (one I did not do well with). His K2 supplement has 30 mg of zinc in it, no thanks. He talks a good talk but there are things he doesn't understand as well, like the zinc, way too much for the average meat eating person, which is going to affect your transport proteins and copper levels, etc.

 

[aquaman]

Haidut mentioned with Danny Roddy that MK7 research is being paid for by the soy and dairy industries, as it’s a byproduct of both these industries.

Hence take the recent positive PR and studies with a pinch of salt !

 

[BigChad]

Haidut mentioned with Danny Roddy that MK7 research is being paid for by the soy and dairy industries, as it’s a byproduct of both these industries.

Hence take the recent positive PR and studies with a pinch of salt !

Mk7 is also cheaper right. Not sure if its cheaper per mg.. thorne is also promoting it

I like the combo of vitamin K doses present in Thorne's 3-K complete. Beautiful.

Its good but one capsule contains 15.6mg silica they put in to fill the capsule. Plus 5mg tocopherols, not sure why those are needed?

I have been us ing codeage ADK product. 3000iu retinyl palmitate,5000iu d3, 1mg k1, 1.5mg mk4, 300mcg mk7. They said their K is sourced from bacterial fermentation from algae. Just veggie capsule no fillers. The algae sourced K seems better than soy or geraniol sourced K some others are using

 

[rei]

I like the combo of vitamin K doses present in Thorne's 3-K complete. Beautiful.

Those are some proper megadoses, wow! more than 5 times the dose of LE's health booster. Something like 50x RDA

 

[johnwester130]

does mk-7 have the positive mitochondrial effects and increased effect on breathing ?

 

[ddjd]

MK7 didn’t stop aspirin bleeding. On,y mk4.

k1 is much better for that

 

[ecstatichamster]

I don’t think MK7 is very safe. I would not use it.

k1 is much better for that

where is your evidence?

K2 MK4 serves me very well.

 

[BigChad]

I don’t think MK7 is very safe. I would not use it.


where is your evidence?

K2 MK4 serves me very well.

I believe even Ray mentioned K1 is superior in clotting blood but that mk4 gets the job done

 

[Mito]

They have different effects because of their chemical structure differences and thus the way they are “packaged” into chylomicrons in the intestine. Have you read https://chrismasterjohnphd.com/blog/2016/12/09/the-ultimate-vitamin-k2-resource/? When vitamin K gets “packaged” up in a chylomicron, mk4 is on the outer edges of the chylomicron and mk7 is in the center.

 

[ecstatichamster]

I’ve never found a clean source of K1. I have found one for K2 MK4.