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StressNon - Custom Liquid Supplement With Pregnenolone

Discussion in 'IdeaLabs' started by haidut, Apr 7, 2014.

  1. sladerunner69

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    Any idea on what the ptoentiation effect of steroids in dmso is? I take 6 drops of stressnon and feel a pretty strong effect from it... feels more like 50mg orally
     
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    I think doing 10 drops twice daily would be a good split. I actually find topical pregnenolone on its own, even without any added DHEA/androsterone, still makes my muscles hard so it seems to be converting into something potent in the skin.
     
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    Cool, thanks. I have seen some posts suggesting that it can potentially effect sleep, when taken close to bed time. In that case, I would probably opt for breakfast and lunch as good dosing times.
     
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    Haidut - Is there a MCT version of just your pregnenolone, the Stressnon? I don't get the option of choice when I click it, like I do with things such as Pansterone.

    Edit: I saw your posts on the last page discussing this. I take it there was not enough demand for it?
     
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    No, we don't have it currently. Also, Ray told people in recent emails that around 100mg DMSO is not likely to hurt anybody, and using the entire 12 drop dose StressNon provides about 200mg DMSO so not far off that mark. In other words, there is probably no reason to worry about the tiny amount of DMSO in the new version of our supplements so there is not much need to add options especially considering they do not sell as well as the DMSO ones.
     
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    @haidut,
    I received some of your stressnon about 2 weeks ago. This is the first time I've used pregnenolone so I don't have anything to compare your product to. I will say that it is fast-acting though. The first few times I tried it I was rubbing 3 drops total onto my arms and within 1-2 minutes I was feeling a "buzz". For this reason I enjoy using it in the evening to help me relax. The first few days it seemed to give me really vivid dreams and deeper sleep. I've used it everyday since I received it and it does seem as though I'm having to increase the dose to get the same effect, but it's probably too soon to tell and it may depend on other factors. I tend to be anxious most of my waking hours so this has been interesting to experiment with.

    Also, I've never experienced a product with DMSO in it either and wasn't sure what to expect. I've been pleasantly surprised. I haven't noticed any odor or skin reaction.
     
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    Thanks for the great feedback!
    Peat recently said that the liver gets very efficient at metabolizing steroids when they are used every day so cycling may help restore efficacy, or maybe using every other day instead of every day. I know that when I use a single dose Pansterone I can use every day without diminishing effects. If I use the full daily dose (single dose x 3) then I have to take a break every few weeks to restore effectiveness. Using every 2 days also helps even if I use the full daily dose.
     
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    I used 1 drop stressnon orally (ethanol % seems to be a lto higehr ) , 1 drop pansterone on scrotum (new solvent too) and experienced some nausea. Could the SFA have an effect on lowering BP with such low doses? I had not tried oral pregnenolone before.
     
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    More likely to be the steroids than the SFA ester. Both pregnenolone and DHEA can raise insulin and lower blood sugar. Man, I really with we had these non-invasive glucose monitors available for buying. It could have removed a lot of doubts about whether something is hypoglycemia or not.
     
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    Ok, I did it again (once) without experiencing nausea so go figure.
     
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