Some Opinions Regarding Polio And Polio Vaccinations

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I opened this thread to post some stuff I come across regarding polio. If I cite sources this does not necessarily mean that I agree with them.

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According to reports polio cases caused by vaccines outnumber wild virus infections. This is what the WHO writes:

WHO said:
What is vaccine-derived polio?

Oral polio vaccine (OPV) contains an attenuated (weakened) vaccine-virus, activating an immune response in the body. When a child is immunized with OPV, the weakened vaccine-virus replicates in the intestine for a limited period, thereby developing immunity by building up antibodies. During this time, the vaccine-virus is also excreted. In areas of inadequate sanitation, this excreted vaccine-virus can spread in the immediate community (and this can offer protection to other children through ‘passive’ immunization), before eventually dying out.

On rare occasions, if a population is seriously under-immunized, an excreted vaccine-virus can continue to circulate for an extended period of time. The longer it is allowed to survive, the more genetic changes it undergoes. In very rare instances, the vaccine-virus can genetically change into a form that can paralyse – this is what is known as a circulating vaccine-derived poliovirus (cVDPV).

So say basically they say that thanks to poor sanitation the vaccine-virus can spread and "this can offer protection to other children through ‘passive’ immunization"; it only starts to become a problem when the virus is around long enough to be able to mutate.

In other papers WHO writes that in order to eradicate polio more than 95 per cent of a population needs to be immunized.

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It is inadequate sanitation what makes the spread of the virus possible.

Polio - Wikipedia
Wikipedia said:
Poliovirus is usually spread from person to person through infected fecal matter entering the mouth.[1] It may also be spread by food or water containing human feces and less commonly from infected saliva.[1][3] Those who are infected may spread the disease for up to six weeks even if no symptoms are present.[1] The disease may be diagnosed by finding the virus in the feces or detecting antibodies against it in the blood.[1] The disease occurs naturally only in humans.[1]

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Health officials are now rushing the approval and deployment of a new vaccine.

New Oral Polio Vaccine to Bypass Key Clinical Trials
TheScientist said:
And because of the compressed approval and deployment timeline, nOPV2 may be used in millions of kids beginning in mid-2020, before a Phase 2 trial in Bangladesh, which will pit the vaccine against real-world conditions such as co-infections with other enteroviruses, could finish.
 
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This is a report about children who got sick after getting a polio vaccine. The father of one the kids only found out that it was the vaccine that caused his child's serious health problems after discussing it with a neighbor who's kid had similar symptoms.

China is notorious for vaccine scandals. So pro-vaxxers will say that it was a bad batch.
 
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Discussion on the Geographical Distribution of Poliomyelitis
This paper was written in 1955. It is a description of the polio outbreaks of the "period up to 1910" until 1954 mainly in the UK.

The Epidemiology of Poliomyelitis.
Written probably around 1910. It describes epidemics between 1905 and 1910.

The authors try to find some pattern in those outbreaks:
  • It seems that there are very many of isolated cases.
  • It is mostly asymptomatic (or not terribly infectious), with many examples where only one family member became ill.
  • The maximum number of deaths is around Augus (in the Northern hemisphere).
  • Outbreaks often in rural areas.
At the end of the first paper it's discussed if the disease could be a manifestation of influenza. The author of the second paper points out that the disease has many similarities to rabies, and he cites accounts of veterinaries of colts and chickens showing symptoms resembling polio.

Swimming or wading in water contaminated with sewage, keeping animals ...
Frederick E. Button said:
Rainfall, temperature, surroundings, nearness to railroad, nearness to water, age of house, sanitary conditions, location of house, character of house, floor of house inhabited by a family, sewage disposal, character of water supply, relation to dust, prevalence of vermin, insects and rodents, data as to domestic animals kept, occurrence of paralysis in animals, swimming and wading, exposure to heat, cold or damp, diet, and attendance at school, were all investigated. I do not propose to give the results of the investigation of all these various points, most of the mare strikingly negative. One or two, however, deserve some mention. Of the 150 cases, 62 were swimming or wading in water more or less contaminated by sewage before the attack. In 87 of 142 families affected, animals of some sort were kept, and in 34 of these there was some illness or paralysis. In no case was a child living on breast milk alone affected by the disease. Thirty-five of 150 cases attended school: the school could not be shown to be a source of infection. Another most interesting point is that only one child out of 3,600 who lived in forty-five institutions was affected with the disease.

No spread of the infection in hospital ...
Frederick E. Button said:
Against the infectivity of the disease may be urged, first, the absence of spread of infection in hospital. The cases of poliomyelitis admitted to hospital freely mixed with other cases in the ward without any isolation or disinfection, some 70 children came in contact, but no infection took place. On these grounds it is probable that the paralytic stage of the disease is not contagious. Secondly, the striking absence of infection when contact has been most close.

Age plays an important part in the outcome of the infection...
A. Bradford Hill said:
An interesting by-product of this type of geographical study was the conclusion that age played an important part in the outcome of infection. In the less civilized communities with a high infection rate at an early age, the paralytic rate was surprisingly much less than among those contracting infection at a later age in the civilized groups. No adequate explanation for this has been found, other than the hypothesis of a different biological response to infection with poliomyelitis virus at different ages. Confirmation of this is offered by the work of Melnick and Ledinko (1953); these workers examined a sample of children from a city's population for the presence of antibody before and after an epidemic. They were able to measure the subclinical infection rate and to compare it with the clinically observed paralytic rate. The ratio of cases to subclinical infections varied according to age from 1 to 175 in the youngest age group of less than 1 year, up to 1 to 64 in the age group 5 to 10 years.
 
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Betrachtungen über die klinische Symptomatik der Poliomyelitis (Heine-Medin) beim Erwachsenen.

Sorry the attached paper is written in German ...

The paper was written in 1913. The author was a neurologist at Graz University Hospital (Austria). He discusses the symptoms of the adults patients with polio during the Steiermark outbreak which was also discussed in one of the papers I linked above. The adult patients were mainly in their 20s.

He writes that the clinical symptoms varied a lot and were very different from most textbook descriptions. Only in a few cases polio would be diagnosed in the adult patient with the symptoms he has found. However he argues that if you have an epidemic, you know that you are dealing with many different faces of the very same disease.

I think the patients would be diagnosed with having encephalitis, meningitis, Guillain-Barré syndrome, neuritis, polyneuritis and whatnot. He mentions that there was a diagnosis of "infantile multiple sclerosis".

In 1909 they did not know which pathogen caused polio. He writes that he could have proven that it was polio only after the patient has died.

Etiology:

· 60% of the patients got a chill before.
· Almost half of the male patients worked physically hard in the initial phase of the disease, and this was associated with a more severe outcome.
· 42% of the female patients were pregnant in their last trimester.


Treatment:

· first and foremost: rest
· the unspecific stuff depending on symptom
· aspirin
· heated air
· electro therapy.

Outcome:

· 22,8% healing
· 63% amelioration
· 10,2% no amelioraton
· 6,1% exitus letalis.

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When I read "aspirin" I googled "aspirin + polio" and found an article which claimed that aspirin lessens the efficacy of vaccines. Proof: There are less antibodies.

Ray Peat thinks that the existence of antibodies only shows that there is structural damage to the tissue: the antibodies are there to clean up the mess, and not to attack foreign invaders.

Also see this post.

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The most important lesson from this report? We must rest when we are sick!
 

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This lady describes her story as she sees it. She got ill with polio in 1956. Back than in the US people's breathing problems where managed with the 'iron lung'.

In the clip they do not mention the Cutter incident in 1955, where a huge number of children got injected with live virulent polio virus.

The iron lung was refined by Bjørn Aage Ibsen -a Danish anesthetist- during the 1953 polio outbreak in Denmark. He was the first one to use intubation when ventilation of a patient was necessary, and this reduced mortality a lot. He also established the first ICU in Copenhagen.
 
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In my first post I linked an article about a new polio vaccine that may be used in millions of kids beginning mid-2020. Here is a bit of background information:

I got the following from Paul A. Offit's book 'The Cutter Incident: How America's First Polio Vaccine Led to the Growing Vaccine Crisis'.

The vaccine discussed in the article is a Sabin vaccine (after the researcher Albert Sabin). It uses live weakened polio virus. It's quite cheap and it doesn't need to be injected, but it has one big disadvantage: it is unstable. The weakened polio virus regains its ability to cause paralysis as it passed through children’s intestines.

In 1957, George D i c k, professor of microbiology at Queens's University in Belfast (Ireland) warned that performing a large-scale vaccine trial with this polio viruses could be dangerous. In 1961 an advisory commitee to the surgeon general of the United States also came to the conclusion that the type 3 strain in Sabin's vaccine ‘‘shows a tendency to change its [ability to cause paralysis] after passage in man’’ and urged that a ‘‘superior type 3 strain’’ be sought. This 'superior' strain was never found. Even so the vaccine was introduced in the US in 1964 replacing the Salk vaccine (after Jonas Salk) that was used until then.

Sabin’s vaccine viruses multiplied many times in the intestines, therefore they spread from one person to another. Twenty-five percent of people who came in close contact with someone given Sabin’s vaccine developed polio antibodies even though they hadn’t been immunized (this was called ‘‘contact immunity’’). And this was considered desirable because immunization rates were low.

Paul A. Offit mentions an article that was published on October 5, 1964 (after 100 million doses of Sabin’s polio vaccine had been distributed in the United States) which confirmed that Sabin's vaccine was able to paralyze people after passing through the children's intestine. The US health officials reasoned that the advantages outweighed the risks and continued to use Sabin's vaccine until 1979. Then the US switched back to the Salk vaccine.

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In contrast to what Paul A. Offit writes, the article about the new polio vaccine states that this phenomenon that the vaccine strains can revert back to virulence was first recognized in 2000.

As I said I haven't found yet the 1964 article, but I found one from 2000.
A 20-year-old female hypogammaglobulinemic patient received monotypic Sabin 3 vaccine in 1962. The patient excreted type 3 poliovirus for a period of 637 days without developing any symptoms of poliomyelitis, after which excretion appeared to have ceased spontaneously.[/url]
 

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Offit is not exactly someone i would trust with anything...

 
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Epidemisches Auftreten der akuten Kinderlähmlmg (Heine-Medin) in Ostpreußen.

I came across another old publication. This one was written in 1928 at University Children's Hospital of Königsberg (Kaliningrad) in East Prussia. It was a rural, sparsely inhabited region.

Ruth Lindstädt (the author) mentions that the mysterious childhood paralysis of the lower limbs was first described by English physicians in 1830. Since then there had been clustered cases in different regions in Europe, India and the US. She mentions that other authors had noticed that poliomyelitis repeatedly coincided with cases of paralysis in poultry and dogs.

She assumed that the disease was contagious, but it was the exception that more than one child got sick in a family. There have neither been transmissions in schools nor in hospital, though they did not always isolate the patients (because they realized too late that it might be contagious). Neither in East Prussia nor elsewhere children younger than six months were affected.

In East Prussia clusters of cases were found more often in the most sparsely inhabited regions, than in the city. As the other authors I have read, she was a puzzled as to why the cases were geographically and chronologically distributed they way they were, with no apparent pattern except that it peaked in August.
 

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Dissolving Illusions - Disease, Vaccines, and Forgotten History
by Suzanne Humphries, MD and Roman Bystrianyk

Only a few quotes. You find much more information (incl. references) in the book.

The term poliomyelitis is a description of spinal pathology. The meaning of the word comes from Greek Polios (gray), muelos (marrow), itis (inflammation) and denotes inflammation of the gray matter of the spinal cord. Poliomyelitis can occur in the brainstem and the spinal cord. [...]

The result of this inflammation, whether chemical or viral, is reflected by certain characteristic muscular symptoms.


The incidence of polio was low compared to other diseases, and it was not terribly infectious.

[Though] we have been indoctrinated to believe that polio was a highly prevalent and contagious disease. [...] the incidence was very low when compared to that of other infectious diseases.

Numbers US.GIF


Approximately 95% of persons infected with polio will have no symptoms. About 4-8% of infected persons have minor symptoms, such as fever, fatigue, nausea, headache, flu-like symptoms, stiffness in the neck and back, and pain in the limbs, which often resolve completely. Fewer than 1% of polio cases result in permanent paralysis of the limbs (usually the legs). Of those paralyzed, 5-10% [of that 1%] die when the paralysis strikes the respiratory muscles.

Prior to vaccination [...] only 1 in 170 children with no antibody to polio became ill during epidemics.


Polio has not vanished, but definition of polio has changed.
Before the vaccine was in widespread use, many distinct diseases were naively grouped under the umbrella of “polio.” Only after the vaccine was widely accepted was there an effort to distinguish poliovirus from other types of paralytic disease. The following list represents a few that could have been categorized and documented as polio prior to 1958.

· Enteroviruses such as Coxsackie and ECHO
· Undiagnosed congenital syphilis
· Arsenic and DDT toxicity
· Transverse myelitis
· Guillain-Barré syndrome
· Provocation of limb paralysis by intramuscular injections of many types, including a variety of vaccines
· Hand, foot, and mouth disease
· Lead poisoning

The practice among doctors before 1954 was to diagnose all patients who experienced even short-term paralysis (24 hours) with “polio.” In 1955, the year the Salk vaccine was released, the diagnostic crite-ria became much more stringent. If there was no residual paralysis 60 days after onset, the disease was not considered to be paralytic polio. This change made a huge difference in the documented prevalence of paralytic polio because most people who experience paralysis recover prior to 60 days.

After the vaccine, there was a concerted effort to distinguish cases with poliovirus from cases without it. This was not a concern prior to 1958 when many diseases common today hid behind the name poliomyelitis. Transverse myelitis, viral or aseptic meningitis, Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS), chronic fatigue syndrome, spinal meningitis, post-polio syndrome, acute flaccid paralysis (AFP), enteroviral encephalopathy, traumatic neuritis, Reye’s syndrome, etc., all could have been diagnosed as polio prior to 1958.


We see less paralyzed people today because treatment has improved and toxins are not as carelessly used as they once were.
The paralysis that the world witnessed in the first part of the 20th century was largely from toxins in the environment like DDT, lead, and arsenic. Those toxins seriously disrupt mucosal immunity, allowing a previously benign virus to bypass the innate immune system and cause paralysis and other clinical symptoms. Where those chemicals are still used today, you will see reports of paralysis, which used to be called polio, but authorities now call it “acute flaccid paralysis.”

polio pestizide.GIF
 
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Contaminated vaccines the cause for cancer?

Humphries said:
Numerous well-documented incidents of vaccine contamination have occurred. Even today, a contaminant cannot be screened for unless the scientists suspect it is there, have designed a specific test, and perform the test adequately. Occult infections (infections first recognized by secondary manifestations) are known to exist inside various vaccines in present times.

The early polio vaccines grown on monkey kidney cells were contaminated with the SV 40 virus.
wikipedia said:
SV40 is an abbreviation for simian vacuolating virus 40 or simian virus 40, a polyomavirus that is found in both monkeys and humans. Like other polyomaviruses, SV40 is a DNA virus that has the potential to cause tumors in animals, but most often persists as a latent infection. [...]

The discovery of SV40 revealed that between 1955 and 1963 around 90% of children and 60% of adults in the U.S. were inoculated with SV40-contaminated polio vaccines.[3]

The Soviet vaccine may have been contaminated until 1980.


Vaccine scandal revives cancer fear
There is evidence is that some of the people given contaminated vaccines were infected by SV40, and that such infections might lead to the development of certain rare types of cancer many years down the line. But the link with cancer has neither been proved, nor shown to be false.
 

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I would like to know what conditions, illnesses, syndromes are associated with contamination with SV 40. There is no doubt I have it, as I was vaccinated in the early 1950's with the injection vaccine and again a few years later with sugar cubes of the oral vaccine.
 

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Thank-you for posting all this! I have a great interest in this topic and love to learn the history of disease and how definitions change so that it fits their agenda.
 
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Something I read in the book "Murder by Injection" by Eustace Mullins caught my attention:
Mullins said:
The medical loner, Dr. William Koch, declared that "The injection of any serum, vaccine, or even penicillin has shown a very marked increase in the incidence of polio, at least by 400%."

This is called 'provocation paralysis': Paralytic polio can be provoked by medical interventions, such as injections or tonsillectomy.

Polio provocation: solving a mystery with the help of history
One study from rural India found that injections seemed to have a role in causing paralytic polio. A subsequent assessment upheld this assertion in concluding that the primary risk factor for paralysis was receiving an injection within 30 days of onset.


Intramuscular Injections within 30 Days of Immunization with Oral Poliovirus Vaccine — A Risk Factor for Vaccine-Associated Paralytic Poliomyelitis
In Romania the rate of vaccine-associated paralytic poliomyelitis is for unexplained reasons 5 to 17 times higher than in other countries. Long ago it was noted that intramuscular injections administered during the incubation period of wild-type poliovirus infection increased the risk of paralytic disease (a phenomenon known as “provocation” poliomyelitis).
The high population attributable risk for any intramuscular injection given within 30 days before the onset of paralysis suggests that the replacement of intramuscular antibiotics for use in infants with either oral or intravenous preparations may reduce the risk of vaccine-associated poliomyelitis in Romania to a level similar to that in other countries.

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History of Vaccines in Germany (Year of Introduction)
  • 1923 diphteria
  • 1927 tetanus
  • 1933 (?) pertussis
  • 1937 yellow fever
Now look at the incidences of polio in Germany:

Polio Germany.GIF


Graph from this doctoral dissertation.

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Diphteria immunization US
Diphtheria immunization started with the use of toxin–antitoxin around 1914, but annual epidemics continued until the introduction of heat-inactivated diphtheria toxoid discovered by Gaston Ramon in 1923.
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The WHO had set out to eradicate polio worldwide by the year 2000. In August 2019 they celebrated three years without a wild case of polio in Africa. The polio cases today are vaccine derived, and these shall be eradicated with a new vaccine (also see post 1).


The Polio Endgame Strategy 2019-2023

Who is GPEI?
The Global Polio Eradication Initiative is a public-private partnership led by national governments with five partners – the World Health Organization (WHO), Rotary International, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF), Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and Gavi, the vaccine alliance. Its goal is to eradicate polio worldwide.

GPEI statement on the strategy to achieve and sustain a polio-free world
GPEI said:
To reach its goals and achieve eradication, the Endgame Strategy requires a US$4.2 billion budget, of which US$3.27 billion is to be raised by the GPEI.
 

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And what do you think of a new vaccine?
I think that in the past the polio vaccines have done more harm than good, and they can't protect anyone against paralysis caused by toxins and bad sanitation or adverse effect to injections (provocation paralysis). Contrary to WHO claims, polio is not terribly contagious. In fact, the early studies did not find anything that suggested that the disease was transmitted between humans. The polio cases today in Africa are vaccine derived, and the WHO argues, that this happens because vaccine coverage is not high enough. It's strange that the sanity and integrity of the WHO officials is not questioned. To be protected from vaccine derived polio virus, you need to get vaccinated! Nice marketing model!

Apart from not being needed, the new vaccine if it is deployed as planned will be used in millions of kids before it has been tested properly for safety. In my books this is a crime.
 

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It's strange that the sanity and integrity of the WHO officials is not questioned. To be protected from vaccine derived polio virus, you need to get vaccinated! Nice marketing model!

That reminds me of one of my favorite Peat quotes- "The stove burns you because it is not hot enough."
 

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Really interesting long thread (57 posts) about polio being caused by viruses escaping leaky gut caused by pesticide exposure, and vaccines were/are ineffective because polio virus is only one of several viruses that can cause the same symptoms.


View: https://twitter.com/forrestmaready/status/1005127713848463361


Wow, eye opening even though I know of the polio-pollutats connection. The explanation why children might be more prone to paralysis is worth considering, I think: b/c their spinal cord is closer to intestines and gut (endo)toxins reach it easier than adult's cord.
I am attaching a zipped html file of the 57-post thread that I've saved. You never know what bluechecka will do with such an information -- it would be a shame to leave it there:
 

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