"Some Fruits, Including Bananas, Pineapples, And Tomatoes. "

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    Source: Serotonin Newsletter March 2011
     
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    Re: "Some fruits, including bananas, pineapples, and tomatoe

    Tomatoes, damnit.
     
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    Re: "Some fruits, including bananas, pineapples, and tomatoe

    So how do cultures like Italian and Mexican get by?

    Italian - Bread & Pasta = Endotoxin, Tomatoes = Serotonin
    Mexican - Beans = Endotoxin, Avocado= PUFA, Tomatoes = Serotonin

    Is there something in there diet (possibly cheese) that would help to reduce these issues?
     

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    I wonder if cooking reduces serotonin.
     
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    Well, I remember Peat said he hadn't had a good tomato since the 50s. These factory creations cultivated to hold up in transport and storage don't have much taste he continues.

    But all that has nothing to do with me. I'm nightshade sensitive and have been off tomatoes for 15 years. However, I've felt bad for my husband since whatever we cook has to suit both. I used to buy him tomatoes. But he told me to stop because they always tasted bland.

    Sooo, I've been doing him a favour after all. :lol:
     
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    No... it doesn't.
     
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    Ideally speaking, I believe the gut has the Monoamine oxidase A (MAO-A) enzyme which *should* deactivate serotonin. So there's a lot of variability there I imagine. Which is why Peat mentioned "...in susceptible people"
     
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    So, you're saying that although cooking doesn't effect serotonin, an enzyme in the gut might deactivate it.
     
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    What was the date on the Serotonin Newsletter? My subscription just started in January. I don't think I got that NL.
     
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    I guess this puts the kibosh on the '30 Bananas + 30 Pineapples + 30 Tomatoes a Day!' diet. :neener
     
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    Oh, Rachel, I was going to start that tomorrow!!
     
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    I imagine so, yes. But perhaps eating raw tomato can somehow protect the serotonin from your enzymes. Which is why i have an odd reaction to eating raw tomato, but minimal reaction to the cooked stuff.
     
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    Sorry, Birdie! :naughty :rolling
     
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    March 2011
     
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    Thanks, I don't have it, then.
     
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    Re: "Some fruits, including bananas, pineapples, and tomatoe

    Very interesting subject for thought.

    My question is. "Who are the susceptible people?" Anybody with gut problems = a susceptible person? So, if you show signs of high serotonin, this would indicate a gut problem... I'd list the symptoms but that info isn't available in my brain. :shock:

    I've not heard him warning about tomatoes before... Even heard him say since they are a fruit, they are okay to eat raw from the garden.

    He talks about the problems with bananas and pineapples a lot in interviews. Industrialization and monoculture leading to stress on the fruits which makes them produce chemicals to ward off the stress. But that's only a related problem to our subject here.
     
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    Hypothyroid people I would assume.
     
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    From Serotonin, Depression and Aggression:
     
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    Who is susceptible?

    Ray Peat
     
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    Yeah. :cry:

    And, then some say,
    that Peat says,
    they are fine without the seeds.

    How in the world do you eat around the seeds in a tomato...? :?
     
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