SolBan - Liquid Aspirin/Caffeine/Niacinamide Mix

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@haidut Say you go to the beach and want to protect your whole body. How many of those beach days could I do with one bottle?
 

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I think they are very helpful and have solid backing by studies and also according to the Peat principles. Adding caffeine to them will likely increase the anti-acne effects. I am surprised no company has noticed the synergism between aspirin and caffeine for acne treatment.
Why do you think so? There is actually no available data on topical caffeine and acne. I also couldnt find any anecdotal evidence from acne boards. It is added to a few so called "beauty products" but not in context of acne.
 
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Why do you think so? There is actually no available data on topical caffeine and acne. I also couldnt find any anecdotal evidence from acne boards. It is added to a few so called "beauty products" but not in context of acne.

Acne, if hormonal, is driven by the excessive conversion of DHEA into androgens like DHT in peripheral tissues. The culprit behind the elevated DHEA is often estrogen as it irritates the adrenals and turns off the negative feedback mechanism. So, blocking estrogen and opposing local tissue androgens often helps. Caffeine has progesterone and anti-estrogen effects and both of these have been found helpful against acne.
Caffeine Increases Pregnenolone & Progesterone In The Brain
Caffeine is a potent anti-estrogen; can block estrogen "receptor" completely

PubMed does not have much info on caffeine/acne but there are Russian studies from the 1960s showing good effects on acne from 8 weeks usage of topical caffeine solution.
 

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Still S.D. free for the most part with only a flake or two on scalp and none on my face for the last 3 months, which is amazing for me... As far as hair regrowth, as before only some very fine hairs, no head carpet yet! But definitely has reduced hair loss significantly, which I have observed by keeping a close check of hair content in my brush which is noticeably less.. Still trying to get the taurine ratio optimal to obtain maximum results without gumming spray bottle tube and scalp, so far 1-2 grams per SolBan bottle shaken before use.. The only negative so far is stiff hair that feels like it has 3 coats of aquanet sprayed on it, which for me is a small price to pay.. Oh and I go through a bottle of SolBan in about 10 days..

Do you apply it to the skin and scalp?
 
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Should this have p5p in it ?

There is P5P in Energin. I try to keep the products more or less "orthogonal" do there is not much overlap in ingredients. This way a few products cane be combined if need to get a mix the person is looking after. I don't see a problem mixing Energin and SolBan and then spraying that mixture on the skin. It will stain, but other than that it should have good effects.
 
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@haidut given the niacinamide and aspirin, could it be effective against skin fungus?

I can't answer directly but if you look at the studies posted in the original thread you will see that there are some dealing with skin fungus.
 

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Thought I'd add this product has helped my skin in appearance and texture I use it once a day on my forehead and under my eyes my skin feels great and have had no acne
 
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Thought I'd add this product has helped my skin in appearance and texture I use it once a day on my forehead and under my eyes my skin feels great and have had no acne

Perfect, keep these feedbacks coming please (honest of course)!
 

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It has been effective on insect bits as well. After receiving 5 mosquito bites I applied SolBan to each bite, and more whenever I felt a little itch, and it has lessened swelling, redness, itching and healing time by about 70% for me, and I usually have a fairly severe reaction to mosq bites.. Not as good as say 2% cortisone cream but far less toxic. One more tool to become toxin less, I love it! On a side note, as bad as mosuito bites are for me I rarely used to get bit, even while my friends would get eaten alive, but after a couple of years of "P-ting" I now get swarmed. Could this be due to producing more co2?? Thanks for the mosquito bites Dr. Peat..
 
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It has been effective on insect bits as well. After receiving 5 mosquito bites I applied SolBan to each bite, and more whenever I felt a little itch, and it has lessened swelling, redness, itching and healing time by about 70% for me, and I usually have a fairly severe reaction to mosq bites.. Not as good as say 2% cortisone cream but far less toxic. One more tool to become toxin less, I love it! On a side note, as bad as mosuito bites are for me I rarely used to get bit, even while my friends would get eaten alive, but after a couple of years of "P-ting" I now get swarmed. Could this be due to producing more co2?? Thanks for the mosquito bites Dr. Peat..

Awesome, thanks for sharing! How much do you spray on each bite?
 
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A little dab on a finger taken directly from bottle, then lightly rub enough to prevent dripping off bite ..

OK, thanks. I guess roughly equivalent to 1-2 sprays.
 

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I have a new supplement (SolBan) for people interested in improving skin health or management of issues like hair loss, wrinkles, aging spots, cellulite, or simply protection from the sun.
It can be ordered from the links below:
http://mkt.com/idealabs-llc/solban-liquid (US orders)
EstroBan, Energin, StressNon, SolBan, Retinil, Oxidal For International Customers (International orders)

The supplement is for topical use only and consists of an ethanol solution containing niacinamide / nicotinamide, caffeine and aspirin. Each one of these ingredients has been shown in multiple human and animal experiments to be beneficial for skin health using topical administration. In addition, the combination of caffeine and niacinamide has been shown to work literally as a sunscreen so this could be an option for people who do not want to be exposed to the toxic excipients in most commercial products. While I do not claim that the product is effective for any medical condition, for information purposes I have listed a number of references below. These studies have looked at effectiveness and safety of each of the ingredients for specific conditions like UV skin damage, hair loss, photoaging, wrinkles, cellulite, skin cancer, dermatitis, acne, pruritis, eczema, psoriasis, etc.
Here is the official description I placed in the online stores together with the scientific references.
I would appreciate any thoughts and comments. Thanks in advance.
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SolBan is a liquid mixture of niacinamide, caffeine, and aspirin. These ingredients have been shown in multiple human clinical trials (as well as animal studies) to have a highly protective effect on the skin against a number of harmful agents and processes. The list of harmful agents and processes includes sunlight (UV), metabolic disturbances, aging (wrinkles, cellulite), hormonal imbalance (acne, eczema, melasma), stress, polyunsaturated fats (PUFA), etc.
SolBan is available as a 20 % alcohol (ethanol) solution in a 2oz glass spray bottle. The product is intended and sanctioned for external use only.

Each bottle contains the following ingredients:
Niacinamide / Nicotinamide - 4% concentration (by volume)
Caffeine - 1% concentration (by volume)
Aspirin - 1% concentration (by volume)

The recommended method of administration is spraying the affected skin area until it has a thin layer of the solution and the letting it dry (without rubbing). The product can be used in place of a sunscreen solution (Caffeine and caffeine sodium benzoate have a sunscreen effect, enhance UVB-induced apoptosis, and inhibit UVB-induced skin carcinogenesis in SKH-1 ... - PubMed - NCBI) due to the UV-blocking properties of caffeine and niacinamide / nicotinamide.


1. NIACINAMIDE
Nicotinic acid/niacinamide and the skin. - PubMed - NCBI
Topical niacinamide reduces yellowing, wrinkling, red blotchiness, and hyperpigmented spots in aging facial skin. - PubMed - NCBI
A review of nicotinamide: treatment of skin diseases and potential side effects. - PubMed - NCBI
Nicotinic acid/niacinamide and the skin. - PubMed - NCBI
Nicotinamide and the skin. - PubMed - NCBI
Nicotinamide - biologic actions of an emerging cosmetic ingredient. - PubMed - NCBI

1.1 Hyperpigmentation and Skin Aging (niacinamide)
Topical niacinamide reduces yellowing, wrinkling, red blotchiness, and hyperpigmented spots in aging facial skin. - PubMed - NCBI
A review of nicotinamide: treatment of skin diseases and potential side effects. - PubMed - NCBI
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24993939
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16029679
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18047609
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23355788
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19845667
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24033822
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21822427
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16766489
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15807725

1.2 UV Damage (niacinamide)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12615518
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19804594
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22123419
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24798949
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22709272
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23349012
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23397947
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24313740
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20354654
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20492562
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19028705
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17882270
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15748504
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9427980
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10674181
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2138506



2. CAFFEINE
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17396054
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18070215
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10332073

2.1 Sunscreen effects (caffeine)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16864596

2.2 Skin cancer (caffeine)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC129466/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25591953
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21505179
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3353410/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18179623
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17388926
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12570332
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12392153

2.3 Other skin conditions (caffeine)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11712038
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8740461
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17214716
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25382163
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3500065/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24704471
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21179241
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16249145
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9809669


3. ASPIRIN
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20950260
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16949225
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8339418
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12013195
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9059677
The lypoma person has shown me that it did shrink for him but it is still there. The benefit he saw was that it no longer bulges out and it does not rub against his clothes. The acne person is using 100,000 IU retinyl acetate a day and EstroBan topically as needed, so he no longer using Tretinoin. Higher vitamin A reduces the acne even more but he said it gave him nausea, so he stays at 100K IU per day and if there are outbreaks he puts EstroBan topically on the spots.
I have not talked to the wrinkles and cellulite girls in a while, but I will ask then I meet them again.

Haidut, I have been using SolBan for quite some time now, to help to lighten the dark pigmentation on my upper lip caused by melasma. I also just recently ordered the EstroBan to attempt at night instead of the SolBan. I'm wondering if you think a crushed aspirin and coffee ground mixture would work topically if I put it on the darkened area, for about 10 minutes per day, to help lighten it? It's 100% a vanity thing, but I do have olive skin, and I feel it's quite noticeable. I do feel self-conscious about it, and I would like to lighten it more if possible.
Thanks in advance!
 
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Haidut, I have been using SolBan for quite some time now, to help to lighten the dark pigmentation on my upper lip caused by melasma. I also just recently ordered the EstroBan to attempt at night instead of the SolBan. I'm wondering if you think a crushed aspirin and coffee ground mixture would work topically if I put it on the darkened area, for about 10 minutes per day, to help lighten it? It's 100% a vanity thing, but I do have olive skin, and I feel it's quite noticeable. I do feel self-conscious about it, and I would like to lighten it more if possible.
Thanks in advance!

Recently I posted that estrogen and progesterone control skin pigmentation - estrogen darkens it and progesterone lightens it.
Estrogen Darkens Skin Color, Progesterone Lightens It
So, I would apply some pregnenolone or progesterone. But given caffeine's progesteronic qualities that may work as well. I just have not tried it for lightening so I don't know for sure.
 

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Recently I posted that estrogen and progesterone control skin pigmentation - estrogen darkens it and progesterone lightens it.
Estrogen Darkens Skin Color, Progesterone Lightens It
So, I would apply some pregnenolone or progesterone. But given caffeine's progesteronic qualities that may work as well. I just have not tried it for lightening so I don't know for sure.

Thanks Haidut! I will try the progesterone first for a few months. If that doesn't seem to help, I will then try the progesterone. I appreciate your help :)
 

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Interesting supplement, but I'm wondering... I read in another thread that aspirin could be hard on the stomach lining as the aspirin binds with the glycine there. Could topical aspirin in the face bind with glycine in the skin of the face and thereby weaken the skin?
 
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Interesting supplement, but I'm wondering... I read in another thread that aspirin could be hard on the stomach lining as the aspirin binds with the glycine there. Could topical aspirin in the face bind with glycine in the skin of the face and thereby weaken the skin?

Never seen anything to indicate that topical aspirin causes that. In fact, aspirin is sometimes used in anti-aging facial masks and has some remarkable effects, which have led Revlon to file a patent application for what is essentially my SolBan :):
 
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