1. 10% Discount At RedLightMan.com For Ray Peat Forum Members!
    Click Here For More Information
    Dismiss Notice

SolBan - Custom, Liquid Dietary Supplement For Skin Health

Discussion in 'IdeaLabs' started by haidut, Feb 6, 2015.

  1. patchpreset

    patchpreset Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2013
    Messages:
    8
    Is there some secret to getting the ingredients to dissolve? And stay dissolved. I've tried making a solution with similar concentration, but crystals seem to precipitate out of it. Aspirin seems to be the one that really doesn't stay put.
     
  2. churchmouth

    churchmouth Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2017
    Messages:
    32
    Gender:
    Male
    Haidut did mention he had a special technique for the solubility.
     
  3. Waynish

    Waynish Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2016
    Messages:
    361
    Gender:
    Male
    Haven't tested it yet, but I'm pretty sure we've reduced it to the niacinamide. How would you fix metabolism on the skin such that reactions to niacinamide stop occurring? :) Add sugar?
     
  4. churchmouth

    churchmouth Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2017
    Messages:
    32
    Gender:
    Male
    Is there a decomposition of the aspirin to salicylate over time (hydrolysis)?
     
  5. OP
    haidut

    haidut Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2013
    Messages:
    9,985
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    USA / Europe
    Not to our knowledge, and we tested several batches that were 6+ months old.
     
  6. churchmouth

    churchmouth Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2017
    Messages:
    32
    Gender:
    Male
    The other concern I have is how do we know magnesium acetylsalicylate has the same benefits on the skin as the plain aspirin used in these studies?
     
  7. OP
    haidut

    haidut Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2013
    Messages:
    9,985
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    USA / Europe
    Because all the salicylic acid salts rapidly break down into salicylic acid and whatever the other compound is and it is salicylic acid that is the active ingredient. So, magnesium salicylate breaks down into salicylic acid and magensium and aspirin breaks down into acetic acid and salicylic acid. If anything, the magnesium salt would have even more benefit given magnesium's role in ATP synthesis. I have not seen anything showing acetic acid having benefits on the skin.
     
  8. stressucks

    stressucks Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2013
    Messages:
    188
    Does heat during shipping affect this product at all?
     
  9. OP
    haidut

    haidut Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2013
    Messages:
    9,985
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    USA / Europe
    It should not as long as the temps are below 150 degrees F.
     
  10. Amazoniac

    Amazoniac Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2014
    Messages:
    2,252
    Gender:
    Male
    haidut, what is your deal with @Sol?
     
  11. OP
    haidut

    haidut Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2013
    Messages:
    9,985
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    USA / Europe
    Well, he refuses to shine all day and keeps changing his magnetic activity. So, at some point I had enough and this is the result :)
     
  12. EIRE24

    EIRE24 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2015
    Messages:
    1,077
    @haidut Would this supplement be affective for seb derm to kill off the fungus? I have used sulfur soap with some good results but the fungus continues to grow back.
     
  13. Warrior_

    Warrior_ Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2017
    Messages:
    18
    Gender:
    Male
    Works fine as a sunscreen, and reduces redness / inflammation from too much / strong sun exposure in very short time. I also use it as a sunscreen on my face without any problems.

    Also it works for small injuries (trauma) / inflammation on joints and muscles, as it speeds up metabolism and so the recovery process.
     
  14. OP
    haidut

    haidut Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2013
    Messages:
    9,985
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    USA / Europe
    Niacinamide and aspirin have proven anti-fungal properties so I don't see why not. Have you tried rubbing some coconut oil or MCT on your scalp? That also has antifungal effects.
     
  15. Ras

    Ras Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2015
    Messages:
    138
    Have you tried sodium salicylate?
     
  16. churchmouth

    churchmouth Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2017
    Messages:
    32
    Gender:
    Male
    I am having trouble understanding why aspirin or the salts have benefit on the skin? Or is the only benefit here in the time release of aspirin into the blood stream. Can our skin cells metabolise aspirin in salicylic acid and use it locally to a certain degree (or can the cells benefit from the aspirin molecule as it is?)? How do we know the molecule with the magnesium variant can be metabolised as easily by the skin cells. The magnesium seems great for solubility and not undergoing hydrolysis in solution. I don't think regular aspirin in ethanol/water would last, but would degrade into salicylic acid

    There seems a lot of anecdotal evidence that aspirin on the skin is good for acne.
     
  17. patchpreset

    patchpreset Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2013
    Messages:
    8
    I figured out the trick. It dissolves pretty readily in warm alcohol. Then you can easily dilute further with water.
     
  18. OP
    haidut

    haidut Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2013
    Messages:
    9,985
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    USA / Europe
    Did you look at the studies in the original thread? The studies with aspirin explain how it helps the skin. Usually opposing PUFA oxidation, improving glucose metabolism and reducing inflammation, histamine, serotonin and NO are among the top reasons given.
     
Loading...