Sodium Salicylate

[hmac]

Im interested in sodium salicylate because I feel it might be a way to avoided the GI distress that regular aspirin has caused me.

Does anyone have any experience taking it?

I have found this on Amazon which claims to be 'BP' (I'm from the UK), but I'm slightly wary of taking it! (the labelling certainly does a good job of making it seem like something you shouldn't be ingesting... or touching without gloves and eye protection on)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/1kg-Sodium-Sali ... salicylate

 

[haidut]

https://raypeatforum.com/forums/posts/96031/ Im interested in sodium salicylate because I feel it might be a way to avoided the GI distress that regular aspirin has caused me.

Does anyone have any experience taking it?

I have found this on Amazon which claims to be 'BP' (I'm from the UK), but I'm slightly wary of taking it! (the labelling certainly does a good job of making it seem like something you shouldn't be ingesting... or touching without gloves and eye protection on)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/1kg-Sodium-Sali ... salicylate

What is the product you found on Amazon? I don't see any links in your post.
There are studies on the forum showing that combining aspirin with glycine or baking soda basically eliminates its negative effects on GI tract. Alka-Seltzer dissolved in water will give you sodium acetylsalicylate, but it also has a big amount of citric acid. Large amounts of citric acid are not very Peat-friendly since he claims that it can stimulate dormant tumor growth.
If you can find a product that has just baking soda and aspirin that would be optimal. Btw, the studies with aspirin and diabetes were done mostly in the UK (about a century ago) and they typically used sodium salicylate. So, that form of aspirin has some decent track record of beneficial effects.

 

[hmac]

https://raypeatforum.com/forums/posts/96099/

https://raypeatforum.com/forums/posts/96031/ Im interested in sodium salicylate because I feel it might be a way to avoided the GI distress that regular aspirin has caused me.

Does anyone have any experience taking it?

I have found this on Amazon which claims to be 'BP' (I'm from the UK), but I'm slightly wary of taking it! (the labelling certainly does a good job of making it seem like something you shouldn't be ingesting... or touching without gloves and eye protection on)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/1kg-Sodium-Salicylate--top-quality/dp/B00BVYTAT6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1440015286&sr=8-1&keywords=sodium+salicylate

What is the product you found on Amazon? I don't see any links in your post.
There are studies on the forum showing that combining aspirin with glycine or baking soda basically eliminates its negative effects on GI tract. Alka-Seltzer dissolved in water will give you sodium acetylsalicylate, but it also has a big amount of citric acid. Large amounts of citric acid are not very Peat-friendly since he claims that it can stimulate dormant tumor growth.
If you can find a product that has just baking soda and aspirin that would be optimal. Btw, the studies with aspirin and diabetes were done mostly in the UK (about a century ago) and they typically used sodium salicylate. So, that form of aspirin has some decent track record of beneficial effects.

Not sure why the link isnt working - i will attach it again. If it doesn't work, the product is being sold by 'minerals-water.co.uk' but doesn't seem to be available on their website and is listed on amazon in the 'garden and outdoors' section! http://www.amazon.co.uk/1kg-Sodium-Salicylate-top-quality/dp/B00BVYTAT6

Presumably these are the studies: - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1781803
- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14964343
Very interesting, thanks.

 

[haidut]

https://raypeatforum.com/forums/posts/96300/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14964343

Nice product, I wish they shipped to USA.
And yes, these are some of the studies and here is another one on baking soda:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1631808/

 

[hmac]

https://raypeatforum.com/forums/posts/96313/

https://raypeatforum.com/forums/posts/96300/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14964343

Nice product, I wish they shipped to USA.
And yes, these are some of the studies and here is another one on baking soda:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1631808/

Have ordered some so we'll see how it is. Thanks for the study :)

 

[Giraffe]

https://raypeatforum.com/forums/posts/96340/ Have ordered some so we'll see how it is. Thanks for the study :)

Please report how you use it and how you feel with it. Aspirin is quite expensive where I live; this might be a good alternative.

"gloves", "safety glasses or goggles" sounds scary. :)

 

[hmac]

https://raypeatforum.com/forums/posts/96344/

https://raypeatforum.com/forums/posts/96340/ Have ordered some so we'll see how it is. Thanks for the study :)

Please report how you use it and how you feel with it. Aspirin is quite expensive where I live; this might be a good alternative.

"gloves", "safety glasses or goggles" sounds scary. :)

Yeh, agree with you on that one! But if it is pure sodium salicylate then it is just pure Aspirin, what can be the problem? I think the label is just there to protect them from any liability for anything that does happen and to allow them to sell the product. Who knows? I will email them and ask them for a certificate of analysis, too. I'll also probably try a small amount on a patch of skin before I try taking any internally!

 

[hmac]

https://raypeatforum.com/forums/posts/96344/ Please report how you use it and how you feel with it. Aspirin is quite expensive where I live; this might be a good alternative.

The Sodium Salicylate arrived last night and I first checked the chemical formula and molar mass on the label - they were the same as those listed for Sodium Salicylate on Pub Chem so I decided to dissolve a bit in water and rub it on my hand to see if it caused any irritation. I left it overnight and woke up today without any irritation whatsoever so I decided to try some. I took 400mg Sodium Salicylate with 400mg Caffeine and 400mg Glycine + 1mg K2 dissolved in warm water and didnt notice any particular effect that I wouldn't have noticed using caffeine alone - but there were no negatives either. Just 30 minutes ago I took 600mg Sodium Salicylate with 100mg Caffeine and 400mg Glycine dissolved in hot water and my temperature has increased form 36.8C to 37.2C, my hands are very warm and I feel relaxed. I wouldn't normally see that temperature rise from that little caffeine as I am now accustomed to quite large doses, so I think the Aspirin is probably contributing.

So I can say it seems to be a decent product and the labeling is probably just there to allow them to sell it unregulated or something like that. Obviously be cautious if you decide to buy some though!

 

[Such_Saturation]

Sodium salicylate isn't aspirin, its salicylic acid with sodium. Salicylic acid is bad on the eyes, that's why they talk about goggles. I don't know how much easier it is with the sodium but by itself it could really irritate my stomach. Perhaps the glycine is doing something to it and you are expelling it directly, I don't know.

 

[Giraffe]

Thanks, Hmac. I am thinking about buying it for topical use.

I found this when I searched "topical use", but it's about pigs and calves.

 

[Giraffe]

UVB-induced Mouse Skin Carcinogenesis

"Effect of NAS on UVB-induced skin damage. Groups of 20 female SKH-1 mice were treated with Vanicream or 40 μmol NAS (in Vanicream) applied topically to the dorsal surface. Vehicle control mice received comparable treatment. Applications were given three times weekly. One week after the start of NAS treatment, UVB treatments began. Mice were irradiated 3 days a week with 9.0 kJ/m2 UVB. Photographs were taken after 23 weeks. A, the effect of UVB irradiation on mouse skin. Unirradiated mouse (bottom) and UVB-irradiated mouse (top). B, the effect of topical application of 40 μmol NAS on UVB-induced mouse skin irritation. Forty μmol NAS + UVB-treated mouse (top) and Vanicream + UVB-treated mouse (bottom)."

And from the discussion:

"The ability to act as a sunblock or screen and, at the same time being able to prevent UVB-induced signal transduction may make NAS a more potent chemoprevention agent than some of the commercial sunscreens used now."

 

[Giraffe]

What is the amount of sodium salicylate one needs to take to get the effect of 500 mg aspririn?

 

[Giraffe]

post 96972 I took 400mg Sodium Salicylate with 400mg Caffeine and 400mg Glycine + 1mg K2 dissolved in warm water and didnt notice any particular effect that I wouldn't have noticed using caffeine alone - but there were no negatives either.

Do you use a measuring tool or a scale? Still happy with the sodium salicylate?

 

[hmac]

post 101341

post 96972 I took 400mg Sodium Salicylate with 400mg Caffeine and 400mg Glycine + 1mg K2 dissolved in warm water and didnt notice any particular effect that I wouldn't have noticed using caffeine alone - but there were no negatives either.

Do you use a measuring tool or a scale? Still happy with the sodium salicylate?

Thanks for the studies; I do find the uv protective property an interesting one.

I use a mcg sensitive scale that I bought from Amazon for about £15. I've tended to dose it on the assumption that the effect from 500mg would be roughly similar to ASA and this has seemed to be the case but I never took a lot of refuse aspirin because it always seemed to cause GI irritation. The NAS has not caused any GI issues - it's also very easy to dissolve in warm water which is a plus.

Things I've noticed:
- It makes me very thirsty (makes sense!)
- I can induced a sort of easy going gregariousness.
- I have noticed, in higher doses,a slight tight ache in my chest behind my sternum (interestingly, a lot of the Peat-related substances can cause this for me. Progesterone, thyroid high doses of caffeine, lysine and cypro have all had this effect)
- It tends to disrupt my sleep if I take it too late.

If you do get some id be intrigued by your experiences

 

[Giraffe]

I'll try to get sodium salicycate. Will report back. Thanks for all the information.

post 101402 Things I've noticed:
- It makes me very thirsty (makes sense!)

Does the little sodium make you thirsty?

post 101402 - I have noticed, in higher doses,a slight tight ache in my chest behind my sternum (interestingly, a lot of the Peat-related substances can cause this for me. Progesterone, thyroid high doses of caffeine, lysine and cypro have all had this effect)

I get hungry.

Does the ache go away after a short while?

 

[hmac]

post 101413 I'll try to get sodium salicycate. Will report back. Thanks for all the information.

post 101402 Things I've noticed:
- It makes me very thirsty (makes sense!)

Does the little sodium make you thirsty?

post 101402 - I have noticed, in higher doses,a slight tight ache in my chest behind my sternum (interestingly, a lot of the Peat-related substances can cause this for me. Progesterone, thyroid high doses of caffeine, lysine and cypro have all had this effect)

I get hungry.

Does the ache go away after a short while?

Haha, yes, I get hungry too! I usually notice the ache at night and it is gone by the morning

 

[Inaut]

policosanols+sodium salicylate is my favourite stack it seems!