Simple Newbie Guide To Peat's Work :

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  1. johnwester130

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    this is a rewrite of previous notes.

    Basically, his work is how to keep the body in youthful state and not an aged, diseased state, and the hormonal differences between the two states.


    the inverse relationship :

    carbon dioxide (good) --- lactic acid (bad)

    bad :
    Cortisol,
    estrogen, - use activated charcoal. carrot salad
    serotonin
    nfkb -
    TGFB1 -
    pgd2 - aspirin blocks pgd2 by 86%
    parathyroid hormone - vitamin D, calcium, avoid phosphate from meat/grains/seeds.
    prolactin - a stress hormone
    aldosterone - salt lowers it
    melatonin
    growth hormone - inhibit with cypro
    nitric oxide - inhibit with methylene blue
    histamine

    nicotine - unknown if good or bad


    good :
    thyroid, (t3, vitamin A cholesterol)
    progesterone,
    DHEA,
    pregnenolone.
    gelatin,
    coconut oil
    carbon dioxide.
    A D k2 E
    b1,b2,niacinamide, b6, biotin - avoid b5, b9, b12, PABA, inositol, choline
    aspirin,
    caffeine
    red light exposure or methylene blue


    pro metabolic foods:

    shellfish
    gelatin
    liver
    fruit
    dairy
    coffee/chocolate
    coconut
    sugar
    salt
    safe starch like sourdough bread/white rice/ Corn tortilla chips made with coconut oil - Toxinless
    foods high in glycine/ taurine.
    mushrooms

    anti metabolic substances and supplements:

    flesh meat (too high in cysteine/methionine, tryptophan)
    nuts/seeds
    oily fish (pufa)
    most raw vegetables
    starchy fruit like bananas


    fish oil (a pufa)
    ala/carnitine (makes you burn fat)
    resveratrol 5 Health Supplements That Are Bad For You
    5 htp, tryptophan and melatonin
    "superfood powders"
    astaxanthin
    herbs
    "mushroom supplements mainly grain powder "
    - avoid b5, b9, b12, PABA, inositol, choline
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    pro metabolic lifestyle :

    art
    writing
    music
    friends/family
    travel
    nature
    creating and building
    helping others
    red light and sunlight

    anti metabolic lifestyle :

    war
    annoying people
    crime
    stress
    paying bills and taxes
    office jobs

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    A diet could consist of
    dairy,
    eggs,
    liver,
    shellfish,
    fruits and fruit juice,
    safe starch like Jackson's Honest,
    carrot salad ,
    gelatin products

    salt, sugar and coconut oil to taste .

    Some basic supplementation could be
    vitamin d
    vitamin k2
    aspirin
    thiamine, niacinamide, biotin to increase co2
    caffeine,
    a thyroid supplement,
    low dose dhea, pregnenolone and progesterone
     
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    Hi.

    I think there are only two mistakes in the list above.

    B12 can be useful sometimes (especially with b6).

    Coconut oil is good. Coconut is not.
     
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    johnwester130

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    this also sums it up

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    actually another hormone is missing - testosterone and DHT. these are both youthful and helpful.
     
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    I really appreciate this info. Thanks
     
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    What is the deal with-rays and what is the way around that? Say at like the dentist or something. I was in a traumatic accident and have had many x-rays in the last five years am in trouble?
     
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    X-Ray radiation is systemically oestrogenic.

    No topic can be understood in isolation. People frequently ask me what they should do about their diagnosed osteoporosis/osteopenia, and when they mention “computer controlled” and “dual photon x-ray” bone density tests, my attention tends to jump past their bones, their diet, and their hormones, to the way they must perceive themselves and their place in the world. Are they aware that this is an x-ray that’s powerful enough to differentiate very opaque bones from less opaque bones? The soft tissues aren’t being studied, so they are allowed to be “overexposed” until they appear black on the film. If a thick area like the thigh or hip is to be measured, are they aware that the x-ray dose received at the surface where the radiation enters might be 20 times more intense than the radiation that reaches the film, and that the 90 or 95% of the missing energy has been absorbed by the person’s cells? If I limited my response to answering the question they thought they had asked me, I would feel that I had joined a conspiracy against them. My answer has to assume that they are really asking about their health, rather than about a particular medical diagnosis...

    X-rays accelerate the rate of bone loss.

    X-rays do their harm at any dose; there is no threshold at which the harm begins.

    X-ray damage is not limited to the area being investigated. Deflected x-rays affect adjacent areas, and toxins produced by irradiated cells travel in the bloodstream, causing systemic effects. Dental x-rays cause thyroid cancer and eye cancer. Recent experiments have shown that low doses of radiation cause delayed death of brain cells. The action of x-rays produces tissue inflammation, and diseases as different as Alzheimer’s disease and heart disease result from prolonged inflammatory processes.

    I have never known a physician who knew, or cared, what dose of radiation his patients were receiving. I have never known a patient who could get that information from their doctors.

    The radiation exposure used to measure bone density may be higher (especially when the thigh and hip are x-rayed) than the exposure in dental x-rays, but dental x-rays are known to increase the incidence of cancer. Often, dentists have their receptionists do the x-rays, which probably doesn’t matter, since the dentist is usually no more concerned than the receptionist about understanding, and minimizing, the dose. Even radiological specialists seldom are interested in the doses they use diagnostically.

    It was only after a multitude of dentists had a finger amputated that it became standard practice to ask the patient to hold the film, while the dentist stood safely back away from the rays.

    Bone Density: First Do No Harm
     
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    I did want to update the supplement section and advise people to take supplements with a glass of milk so the suppements don't cause a stress response, especially amino acids if taken with water.

    Some basic supplementation could be:

    vitamin a, vitamin d. vitamin k2 and magnesium oil to balance the vitamin d. All can be topical
    thiamine, niacinamide, biotin to increase co2
    low dose dhea, pregnenolone and progesterone
    low dose testosterone or DHT - Causes of Prostatitis | Treat Prostatitis
    zinc/copper and taurine and lysine
    aspirin/caffeine/cyproheptadine/methylene blue/t3/t4- can be optional. they are not essentials.
     
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    maybe selenium/zinc and b12 could be considered worthwhile supplements
     
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    I could simplify it even more


    Diet :

    masa harina for starch
    fat free dairy
    liver
    shellfish and low fat fish
    fruit
    salt/sugar/coconut oil

    supplements :

    k2, magnesium
    pregnenolone/progesterone as liquid

    b1,b3, b6 b12,
    acerola powder
    gelatin


    other things to consider :
    eggs, carrots, mushrooms,
    cyproheptadine, aspirin, lisuride, cascara sagrada
    gelatin could replace isolated amino acids, shellfish can replace mineral supplements

    After a while it just becomes instinctual and obvious what your body needs.
    That's where I feel like I am at now.
     
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    regarding light ,

    250w clear bulb , e27, seems to be the most basic infrared light that Peat reccomended .

    I think it's also the same one Danny Roddy uses in his youtube video
     
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    I am a newbie to RP's beliefs and teachings but I really don't understand statements like this and also other things to avoid like astaxanthin. Is there a resource where I can find his research or what science he bases his teachings on or even why he believes the things he does? Thanks, just trying to learn and all of this stuff seems very chaotic even after I have studied nutrition and supplements most of my life.
     
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    the avoidance of b12 and PABA is based off this thread
    Energin - Liquid B-Complex Vitamin Mix

    astaxanthin is not recommended since it seems to be anti thyroid
     
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    I think you mean cacao, or even cocoa, not chocolate. Most of the chocolates I see have PUFA and crappy stuff
     
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    Ray Peat recommendations resemble a modified Fruit diet(sugar) 65%
    Structural saturated fats, minerals, fat soulables from diary,liver, yolks 20%
    Additional protein 80-100 grams(320 calories) like 15%

    It Fixes the issues with fruitarians.
    Low protein-No muscle mass, poor liver
    Low calcium-Bird Bones,phosphorus ratio
    Low fat vitamins- No libido, protective hormones

    Energy
    Structure
    Micros

    Is how we heal an orgasism

    Fruits and Fruit Juices- Cellular Energy
    CO/Diary Fat-Cellular Energy
    Gelatin-Structure
    Milk protein-Structure
    Eggs yolks-Micro
    shrimp/oyster-Micro
    Liver-Micro

    Is a better order than you listed, atleast in my opinion


    Carrot salad,Bamboo shoots, Mushrooms-Extra


    People hop on diary, ice cream, coke and put on a bunch of weight. When all the extra fat/protein is hindering their ability to have a high metabolism.
     
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    Some updates on the good/bad substances and dietary reccomendations


    good :

    a d e k2
    b complex with niacinamide
    progesterone / DHT
    taurine/zinc - if needed
    aspirin/caffeine infrared lamp e27 clear topical caffeine/niacinamide

    t3,cyproheptadine , baking soda, methylene blue

    pro metabolic foods:

    mexican cola
    dairy, including ice cream
    eggs,
    liver,
    shellfish,

    fruits and fruit juice,
    safe starch like Jackson's Honest, masa, fat free bread cooked in coconut oil
    carrot salad ,
    gelatin products and powdered gelatin

    Sugar/salt/coffee/chocolate/ as needed


    anti metabolic substances and supplements:

    flesh meat (too high in cysteine/methionine, tryptophan)
    nuts/seeds
    oily fish (pufa)
    most raw vegetables
    starchy fruit like bananas
    avocados and olives

    protein powders
    fish oil (a pufa)
    ala/carnitine (makes you burn fat)
    resveratrol -
    5 htp, tryptophan and melatonin
    "superfood powders"
    astaxanthin
    herbs
    "mushroom supplements mainly grain powder "
    - the b vitamin PABA can be a problem , maybe b12 and b9 can be problematic
     
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    I think these recommendations mislead people.

    Particularly starting with

    "Mexican cola
    dairy, including ice cream
    eggs,
    liver,
    shellfish,"

    This is not a soda, ice cream, and eggs and seafood.

    People start drinking potassium free coke, super fat bombs in ice cream are destined to gain the "6 week Peat weight" we all experienced. To much protein, to much saturated fat is what causes this.


    The diet is primarily fruit sugar based. 65%
    Saturated fats are fine in moderation. 20%
    Some Protein from milk/gelatin 15%
    Yolks/Liver/Shell fish 1-2x a week.

    People that actually want to lose weight eat blended fruit+oj+CO with some gelatin and salt

    Not Eggs fried in butter, ice cream, mexican coke,

    Suppressing FFA with Sugar
    Saturated CO to displace PUFA
    Gelatin to displace tryptophan

    Is how people heal
     
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    it's just a guide

    People can use their instinct

    I never said live on cola and ice cream
     
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    it's just a guide

    People can use their instinct

    I never said live on cola and ice cream
     
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