Sexual Liberation The Downfall Of A Society

[Ableton]

"infinite opportunities"

 

[Jib]

View attachment 19800 "infinite opportunities"

The "infinite opportunities" I'm referring to is porn and ejaculation. Every single day, multiple times a day, men have the opportunity for an easy out: go look at porn, go jerk off, go ejaculate, drain your life force, just for a 5 minute escape from the absolute mental hell of feeling sexually worthless, sexually invisible, sexually frustrated, sexually obsessed. If anything I'm speaking more to guys who have a hard or impossible time getting women, and little or no history with women, as these are the guys that are likely the most tormented.

Guess how I know that?

SMV (sexual market value for those not in the know) is a trap. It's a breeding ground for Body Dysmorphic Disorder. It's a complete waste of life to focus on it. It's literally a cyclical hell. Sexual frustration. Sexual obsession. There is no level of ego gratification that will make the ego satisfied and never crave gratification again. It's cyclical. The only way to stop it is to see through the illusion.

There's so much more to all this. I could literally talk for hours about Red Pill / Game / Hypergamy, whatever. I've heard it all. I'm not a stranger to all this stuff. The quick and simple answer is just do semen retention. It's like trying to explain what mind altering drugs feel like to someone who's never done them. You simply can't. You need to experience it for yourself.

Semen retention = valuing your seed = valuing your life = valuing yourself = valuing your sexual energy. If you want to be "high SMV," then value yourself. You want sexual market value? Value your own sexuality. Value yourself. Don't get stuck thinking of yourself like a piece of meat up for auction. These people will tell you that's "reality" but that's nothing but BS. Do not accept that "reality" is that you're a piece of meat up for auction. This is basically what people preaching about SMV are teaching people. That they're a piece of meat up for auction and that's all the value their life has. And then we wonder why people are suicidal. Don't let that go over your head.

These people out here not even retaining and talking about SMV. They don't even value themselves. They're telling you to value yourself and they don't even value themselves. Sitting in your room and feeling the intense loneliness, the intense sexual frustration, and simply sitting with it, instead of masturbating, instead of going on porn and numbing yourself -- it will teach a man infinitely more than any words ever could.

Men and women have value inherently. People need to wake up and remember this. Everything is so polarized. We need to start seeing people as human beings. So much polarization and now sexually, everyone is a piece of meat up for auction. Stop it. It needs to stop. Even if it's just one single day controlling sexual urges. One single day. If people would just do this for one single day and challenge themselves to see everyone else they talk to as a human being with a soul and a life.

I haven't had sex in a couple years, and it does suck sometimes. I'm no stranger to sexual frustration at all. It's like my best friend. I know the struggle. I stand by what I said. I'm just a student like everyone else on this planet and am learning every day. But it feels good to open up my eyes and realize for me personally, I don't need to commit suicide because I feel worthless. I can feel worth in myself even though I'm not "high SMV" or whatever. You feel me? Not trying to be confrontational at all here. I'm just tired of seeing people in the world like me that are basically ready to kill themselves over this BS. So many false teachers and liars and I honestly don't think they even realize they're teaching people to perceive themselves in such awful, inhuman ways.

 

[GreekDemiGod]

Part of this is "macho" culture and thinking that if women want you, it means you're a real man.

I think it goes deeper than any societal construct.
Women wanting you is literally a signal that your genes are fit for reproduction, which is one of your two primal instincts.
A man's worth is not subjective, it's objective based on universal values.

 

[rei]

"sexual liberation" is the first step that leads to societal collapse. You can see this today in western countries where incel phenomena is skyrocketing. Women whore with the top 30% of most masculine and attractive men in a continuous orgy, while 70% of men only get women when they are financially successful and can attract them with their resources. This is the perfect recipe for horrible marriage and environment for raising children. Lately women don't even need men and can **** the alphas and raise the children on social security, further diminishing the value of men as they can even be in lesbian relationship and get the sperm from a sperm bank.

So while one group is liberated most of society suffers the opposite.

 

[Ableton]

I 100% agree that semen retention will help, I even said this in my first post. I do not agree that it's about valuing yourself, it's about optimizing your T and having the thrive to ****, which you will definitely have if you do not jerk off. Basically, nofap is the perfect way to bluepill yourself again, or to accept reality at least, and better yourself, to get sex again.

Most of the society doesn't suffer though. Women and top tier men do not. For low tier men not much changed. So yes, this is about the average man.

 

[Ableton]

The "infinite opportunities" I'm referring to is porn and ejaculation. Every single day, multiple times a day, men have the opportunity for an easy out: go look at porn, go jerk off, go ejaculate, drain your life force, just for a 5 minute escape from the absolute mental hell of feeling sexually worthless, sexually invisible, sexually frustrated, sexually obsessed. If anything I'm speaking more to guys who have a hard or impossible time getting women, and little or no history with women, as these are the guys that are likely the most tormented.

Guess how I know that?

SMV (sexual market value for those not in the know) is a trap. It's a breeding ground for Body Dysmorphic Disorder. It's a complete waste of life to focus on it. It's literally a cyclical hell. Sexual frustration. Sexual obsession. There is no level of ego gratification that will make the ego satisfied and never crave gratification again. It's cyclical. The only way to stop it is to see through the illusion.

There's so much more to all this. I could literally talk for hours about Red Pill / Game / Hypergamy, whatever. I've heard it all. I'm not a stranger to all this stuff. The quick and simple answer is just do semen retention. It's like trying to explain what mind altering drugs feel like to someone who's never done them. You simply can't. You need to experience it for yourself.

Semen retention = valuing your seed = valuing your life = valuing yourself = valuing your sexual energy. If you want to be "high SMV," then value yourself. You want sexual market value? Value your own sexuality. Value yourself. Don't get stuck thinking of yourself like a piece of meat up for auction. These people will tell you that's "reality" but that's nothing but BS. Do not accept that "reality" is that you're a piece of meat up for auction. This is basically what people preaching about SMV are teaching people. That they're a piece of meat up for auction and that's all the value their life has. And then we wonder why people are suicidal. Don't let that go over your head.

These people out here not even retaining and talking about SMV. They don't even value themselves. They're telling you to value yourself and they don't even value themselves. Sitting in your room and feeling the intense loneliness, the intense sexual frustration, and simply sitting with it, instead of masturbating, instead of going on porn and numbing yourself -- it will teach a man infinitely more than any words ever could.

Men and women have value inherently. People need to wake up and remember this. Everything is so polarized. We need to start seeing people as human beings. So much polarization and now sexually, everyone is a piece of meat up for auction. Stop it. It needs to stop. Even if it's just one single day controlling sexual urges. One single day. If people would just do this for one single day and challenge themselves to see everyone else they talk to as a human being with a soul and a life.

I haven't had sex in a couple years, and it does suck sometimes. I'm no stranger to sexual frustration at all. It's like my best friend. I know the struggle. I stand by what I said. I'm just a student like everyone else on this planet and am learning every day. But it feels good to open up my eyes and realize for me personally, I don't need to commit suicide because I feel worthless. I can feel worth in myself even though I'm not "high SMV" or whatever. You feel me? Not trying to be confrontational at all here. I'm just tired of seeing people in the world like me that are basically ready to kill themselves over this BS. So many false teachers and liars and I honestly don't think they even realize they're teaching people to perceive themselves in such awful, inhuman ways.

can you cope with the fact that your sexlessness will end likely due to the fact that you have acquired enough ressources to attract a female, something which she (or top men, which she probably gave sex for free to) never had to do. do you think whoever you are dating next can even remotely comprehend what you were going through? this is not just about sex.

On which basis are we supposed to find our snowflake, when the women on our level live significantly different lives from 14-35?

its beyond cucked to marry a former party girl past her prime to pop out some kids. add on that that the average mans genes are average, and average in 2040 will likely be even worse if you get a son. although I suppose genetic recombination is a thing. the problem is not that I am unable to stick my p in my looksmatch.

 

[Anders86]

can you cope with the fact that your sexlessness will end likely due to the fact that you have acquired enough ressources to attract a female, something which she never had to do. do you think whoever you are dating next can even remotely comprehend what you were going through? this is not just about sex.

On which basis are we supposed to find our snowflake, when the women on our level live significantly different lives from 14-35?

its beyond cucked to marry a former party girl past her prime to pop out some kids. add on that that the average mans genes are average, and average in 2040 will likely be even worse if you get a son. although I suppose genetic recombination is a thing. the problem is not that I am unable to stick my p in my looksmatch.

Why do you have to have kids? Why is having a party-life anything wrong, partying brings experiences and socializing, they can be healthier than you for all that you know. There is no such thing as a snowflake, but if she has health she i curious, and if she is curious you can do your job. But if you are gonna over explain, being overtly negativ she gonna drop your sorry ****, I hope for her`s sake. People on this forum have faith in everything except the society...

 

[GreekDemiGod]

Why do you have to have kids? Why is having a party-life anything wrong, partying brings experiences and socializing, they can be healthier than you for all that you know. There is no such thing as a snowflake, but if she has health she i curious, and if she is curious you can do your job. But if you are gonna over explain, being overtly negativ she gonna drop your sorry ****, I hope for her`s sake. People on this forum have faith in everything except the society...

You sir, are surely intoxicated with liberal, feminine-centric ideas that you don't even realize the beliefs and ideas you adopted serve the woman's advantage. You should real Rational Male

 

[Peater]

You sir, are surely intoxicated with liberal, feminine-centric ideas that you don't even realize the beliefs and ideas you adopted serve the woman's advantage. You should real Rational Male

The first line is pretty cringe. "Experiences" and "Socialising" like getting pumped and dumped

 

[Anders86]

You sir, are surely intoxicated with liberal, feminine-centric ideas that you don't even realize the beliefs and ideas you adopted serve the woman's advantage. You should real Rational Male

I adopt all advantages, a partyboy is no better. Why choose sides when you can be all...

 

[Anders86]

The first line is pretty cringe. "Experiences" and "Socialising" like getting pumped and dumped

Sorry I cringe your gay feelings.

 

[Ableton]

I adopt all advantages, a partyboy is no better. Why choose sides when you can be all...

Guess what, I also pretend to be a liberal feminist, because I would be incel otherwise. Wonder why I hang out in online forums

 

[Ableton]

Pretending to be a feminist is also a good way to get to know about the sexual history of your gf btw, so that you can make an informed decision about your future. Im not going to play a rigged game fair

 

[Anders86]

 

[Jib]

EDIT: ...think I'm gonna head out

 

[Ableton]

Nice reply thanks.

Another problem that comes with sexual liberation + birth control is that pregnancies happen later in the parents life. A 30+ yr old woman has much less chances to get a well developed kid (which will impact a boys life more than a girls life) than a 20 yr old woman. It’s completely unfathomable that pregnancies for women in their mid 30s are normalized when women lose around 90 % of their eggs by the time they are 30.
More ugly men, more hypergamy. Prenatal t is important. Health of mother when kid is in womb is important. You can really tackle this problem from dozens of angles and its quite evident that all of this indeed spirals into the destruction of civilization

 

[managing]

This is literally the most horrible thing I think I've ever read on the internet. ANd that is saying a lot.

It is the most authoritarian thing . . . on a site supposedly dedicated to a noted anti-authoritarian.

Let's just convince women that they can have one and only one partner. Once they have accepted control, they sky is the limit. Oh, and let's pretend to care about not "wasting our life force" and to hate porn and promiscuity so we can get their buy in. Then we can do whatever we want just like in the past. We'll relegate a class of "degenerate" women to the status of cum-receptacle and defile them wantonly and then go home to our devout families and scowl at others for being less holy than moi.

SMH.

That "study" desires to restore the patriarchy. It desires to restore religious control of our lives. No f'ing way. When your messiah returns I'll say you were right and accept my punishment, lol.

 

[Ableton]

This is literally the most horrible thing I think I've ever read on the internet. ANd that is saying a lot.

It is the most authoritarian thing . . . on a site supposedly dedicated to a noted anti-authoritarian.

Let's just convince women that they can have one and only one partner. Once they have accepted control, they sky is the limit. Oh, and let's pretend to care about not "wasting our life force" and to hate porn and promiscuity so we can get their buy in. Then we can do whatever we want just like in the past. We'll relegate a class of "degenerate" women to the status of cum-receptacle and defile them wantonly and then go home to our devout families and scowl at others for being less holy than moi.

SMH.

That "study" desires to restore the patriarchy. It desires to restore religious control of our lives. No f'ing way. When your messiah returns I'll say you were right and accept my punishment, lol.

Ugly men, and now average men face an authoritarian reality every day
It’s just that no one ever cares about them as long as they contribute to society despite it
Outside of online forums they can’t talk about it either
Also, I’m fine with my girlfriend having a higher n count than myself. I am not fine with one who has an n count of 20 by the time they are 18, which is common

 

[managing]

Ugly men, and now average men face an authoritarian reality every day
It’s just that no one ever cares about them as long as they contribute to society despite it

LOL, that isn't authority. That is a self-confidence crisis. And crying for others to "fix society" so you can feel better about yourself is . . . oh, c'mon, its obvious.

Look around,lol. Lots of fat and ugly people getting action.

Something is broken, for sure. But it isn't "sexual liberation".

 

[Ableton]

LOL, that isn't authority. That is a self-confidence crisis. And crying for others to "fix society" so you can feel better about yourself is . . . oh, c'mon, its obvious.

Look around,lol. Lots of fat and ugly people getting action.

Something is broken, for sure. But it isn't "sexual liberation".

Fat and ugly men get action by compromising in other areas and because their post prime girl is unable to lock down a better man in a relationship

a social-liberal agenda is authority. If it wasn’t authority, I would get laid irl without pretending I’m a feminist. Only chads can get away with that. Giga sexist chads **** all the time btw