Semen Retention is a Powerful Metabolic Enhancer

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The way I see it, every time an ejaculation has taken place it releases serotonin. For people with compromised health or high stress, that are bad at metabolizing serotonin "retaining semen" is a good way to prevent excess induction of serotonin. So I think the accumulation or re-absorption of semen hasn't anything to do with getting super powers, it's the prevention of serotonin release.
 

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Retention is great. I highly recommend Jonathan's "Sexual Kung Fu" channel on YouTube. Lots of great information.

1.5 years into this and it goes beyond words. My life has changed dramatically and it's a direct result of retention. You simply have to experience it firsthand, for a long period of time, with a lot of introspection and discipline, to understand. The only way to know is to experience it yourself.

If you know you know. And the only way to know is to do it. It's also the only real cure for sexual frustration. Do it for long enough and you'll understand why.

It's a great teacher. Slow but thorough.
Did you do any exercises to deal with the bottled up sexual energy? I have found that is the biggest problem when doing semen retention.
 

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Did you do any exercises to deal with the bottled up sexual energy? I have found that is the biggest problem when doing semen retention.

I highly recommend videos on this channel:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F-Ic7NbxqM


I've only done a little bit of this so far. I'm very stubborn and also have severe ADD so my actual time commitment in actively practicing these methods is very, very small.

However, just being even peripherally aware of the concept of moving sexual energy out of the genitals and into the rest of the body has made a huge difference for me.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=979N1Bb-Miw


These concepts are worth their weight in gold. I think the most major pitfall with semen retention is most guys doing this get on the wagon via NoFap, and develop an unhealthy aversion to masturbation and sex. I actually still masturbate somewhat regularly, but without ejaculation, and I also avoid edging. Erections are a function of the parasympathetic nervous system and it is completely possible to experience an erection and sexual stimulation without going overboard into a sympathetic nervous system stress response.

Completely avoiding sexual stimulation will not help in the long run. It's counterproductive. True mastery is being able to circulate the sexual energy and control it. Sexual stimulation making someone lose their mind or control over themselves is a sign that they would benefit tremendously from these practices.

In porn-saturated society, it's extremely difficult to imagine sexual stimulation without ejaculation. The more you practice this, though, the better you get at it. And the less over stimulated and frustrated you will feel, to the point where it's normal to end a session of foreplay, sex, or masturbation, without ejaculating.

I've also found that I sleep much better when I'm abstaining from ejaculation. Masturbating and ejaculating to porn, which I did nightly for over 17 years, never helped me sleep. It was the opposite. Lots of times I'd finish and then stay up masturbating even later just to squeeze out some more dopamine and stimulation. Addiction.

Being able to feel really high libido and to have a hard erection while not feeling overstimulated or anxious or out of control is one of the best feelings in the world. That's really stepping into your power. Most people fall off when they believe the goal is to avoid sexual stimulation completely and they develop a fear and paranoia and dogma around sex and masturbation.

Quitting porn makes a huge difference, quitting ejaculation makes a huge difference. But we're still men and unless we want to live as if we have no dicks, we need to learn how to integrate and master sexual energy, not repress it through sheer force of will.

When you start to understand sexual energy as just that -- energy -- things start to make a lot more sense. Semen retention done the traditional way (spiritually) has nothing but benefits. Semen retention done the modern way (force of will, moralistic dogma, sex/porn/masturbation = bad) can be destructive at worst and counterproductive at best. You'll still get benefits like more discipline and developing will power and self control, but things are much easier when your entire mind/body/emotions/spirit are on board, and you feel good and inspired.

That's why I like that channel so much. I highly recommend checking it out and trying some of the exercises for yourself. The main thing is the belief system around sexual energy changing, which you can get just by watching videos like that and opening your mind up. I have done a very small amount of Qigong and the lower dan tien building exercise he talks about, as well as deep breathing and somatically FEELING sexual energy in other parts of my body than my penis -- that's a big one right there. To focus on what you're actually physically feeling. Not visualizing energy moving. But shifting your awareness to what is going on in the rest of your body other than your genitals when you're aroused.

Super enlightening stuff. And a gradual, long process. The way I see it for me, 1.5 years is a drop in a bucket compared to over 17 years of addiction to porn and ejaculation. These things will take time. Gradual and profound. Like a tree growing.
 

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Did you do any exercises to deal with the bottled up sexual energy? I have found that is the biggest problem when doing semen retention.
While Jib will no doubt gift you with a wonderfully thoughtful reply (which seems to be the only kind of content he is able to produce[edit: what do you know, I was right]), based on the ten years I've been around SR-related communities, it is clear that just forcefully holding and holding onto the energy will be. at the minimum, very difficult in the long term. On top of this, it may result in many kind of physiological, social and psychological harm. This is the case even when you're trying as hard as you can to avoid lustful and erotic thoughts, behavior or stimuli. It's important to keep in mind that SR is not meant to be a challenge, but rather serve as a fundamental pillar to wellbeing. As such, we can in Peatarian fashion conclude that if it gives you stress, it most likely is not serving your wellbeing and should therefore approached differently.

Perhaps the most important prerequisites for proper energic management are correct posture (read: unrestricted, relaxed, holistically engaging) and breathing pattern (read: diaphragmatic full spinal engagement). These two rely on each other and without them your nervous system, organs and glands will dysfunction in numerous ways, creating what the SR community calls energic blockages -- obstacles that prevent the energy within your body from being freely redistributed in accordance to its metabolic needs. Especially hip imbalances and chest breathing, both of which are so common these days, can trap sexual energy into the groin and so urge you to expulse it.

Unfortunately, that's as deep as the concrete and objective answer to the proper management of the energy can get. The "inconvenient" truth is that different kind of people find different ways of handling the energy work for them, so you will have to find your own. Whether you're inclined towards creativity, physical exercise, spiritual pursuits, work, academia, the main thing is that you indulge in those in a way that challenges you to a sufficient degree and in sufficient volume. Then, so long as you fulfill the aforementioned physiological criteria regarding breathing and posture, you will most likely need not to make any direct efforts towards working with your sexual energy, as your body will be in a position where it is able to intelligently direct energy into the direction your pursuits demand.
 
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I highly recommend videos on this channel:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F-Ic7NbxqM


I've only done a little bit of this so far. I'm very stubborn and also have severe ADD so my actual time commitment in actively practicing these methods is very, very small.

However, just being even peripherally aware of the concept of moving sexual energy out of the genitals and into the rest of the body has made a huge difference for me.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=979N1Bb-Miw


These concepts are worth their weight in gold. I think the most major pitfall with semen retention is most guys doing this get on the wagon via NoFap, and develop an unhealthy aversion to masturbation and sex. I actually still masturbate somewhat regularly, but without ejaculation, and I also avoid edging. Erections are a function of the parasympathetic nervous system and it is completely possible to experience an erection and sexual stimulation without going overboard into a sympathetic nervous system stress response.

Completely avoiding sexual stimulation will not help in the long run. It's counterproductive. True mastery is being able to circulate the sexual energy and control it. Sexual stimulation making someone lose their mind or control over themselves is a sign that they would benefit tremendously from these practices.

In porn-saturated society, it's extremely difficult to imagine sexual stimulation without ejaculation. The more you practice this, though, the better you get at it. And the less over stimulated and frustrated you will feel, to the point where it's normal to end a session of foreplay, sex, or masturbation, without ejaculating.

I've also found that I sleep much better when I'm abstaining from ejaculation. Masturbating and ejaculating to porn, which I did nightly for over 17 years, never helped me sleep. It was the opposite. Lots of times I'd finish and then stay up masturbating even later just to squeeze out some more dopamine and stimulation. Addiction.

Being able to feel really high libido and to have a hard erection while not feeling overstimulated or anxious or out of control is one of the best feelings in the world. That's really stepping into your power. Most people fall off when they believe the goal is to avoid sexual stimulation completely and they develop a fear and paranoia and dogma around sex and masturbation.

Quitting porn makes a huge difference, quitting ejaculation makes a huge difference. But we're still men and unless we want to live as if we have no dicks, we need to learn how to integrate and master sexual energy, not repress it through sheer force of will.

When you start to understand sexual energy as just that -- energy -- things start to make a lot more sense. Semen retention done the traditional way (spiritually) has nothing but benefits. Semen retention done the modern way (force of will, moralistic dogma, sex/porn/masturbation = bad) can be destructive at worst and counterproductive at best. You'll still get benefits like more discipline and developing will power and self control, but things are much easier when your entire mind/body/emotions/spirit are on board, and you feel good and inspired.

That's why I like that channel so much. I highly recommend checking it out and trying some of the exercises for yourself. The main thing is the belief system around sexual energy changing, which you can get just by watching videos like that and opening your mind up. I have done a very small amount of Qigong and the lower dan tien building exercise he talks about, as well as deep breathing and somatically FEELING sexual energy in other parts of my body than my penis -- that's a big one right there. To focus on what you're actually physically feeling. Not visualizing energy moving. But shifting your awareness to what is going on in the rest of your body other than your genitals when you're aroused.

Super enlightening stuff. And a gradual, long process. The way I see it for me, 1.5 years is a drop in a bucket compared to over 17 years of addiction to porn and ejaculation. These things will take time. Gradual and profound. Like a tree growing.

Thanks for the thorough response mate. I concur with most of what you said. I have practiced qigong myself (not a lot admitedly) and the problem is that if you do things like pulling the energy upwards the spine with things like the microcosmic orbit you can injure yourself very badly if you don't have a teacher.

And it is an injury at energetic level so you will need someone like a qigong master or an accupuncturist to be able to heal it. Not an easy thing. That's why I am scared.

A lot of people do it on their own (with Mantak Chia's books and the like) and don't seem to get problems, which makes me wonder if they are realing moving something... or is it just placebo.

I will check the videos and see. For the time being I just try to ejaculate less. Simply as that. But I see the tremendous potential on it if the energy can be sublimated properly.
 

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While Jib will no doubt gift you with a wonderfully thoughtful reply (which seems to be the only kind of content he is able to produce[edit: what do you know, I was right]), based on the ten years I've been around SR-related communities, it is clear that just forcefully holding and holding onto the energy will be. at the minimum, very difficult in the long term. On top of this, it may result in many kind of physiological, social and psychological harm. This is the case even when you're trying as hard as you can to avoid lustful and erotic thoughts, behavior or stimuli. It's important to keep in mind that SR is not meant to be a challenge, but rather serve as a fundamental pillar to wellbeing. As such, we can in Peatarian fashion conclude that if it gives you stress, it most likely is not serving your wellbeing and should therefore approached differently.

Perhaps the most important prerequisites for proper energic management are correct posture (read: unrestricted, relaxed, holistically engaging) and breathing pattern (read: diaphragmatic full spinal engagement). These two rely on each other and without them your nervous system, organs and glands will dysfunction in numerous ways, creating what the SR community calls energic blockages -- obstacles that prevent the energy within your body from being freely redistributed in accordance to its metabolic needs. Especially hip imbalances and chest breathing, both of which are so common these days, can trap sexual energy into the groin and so urge you to expulse it.

Unfortunately, that's as deep as the concrete part of the objective answer to the proper management of the energy can get. The "inconvenient" truth is that different kind of people find different ways of handling the energy work for them, so you will have to find your own. Whether you're inclined towards creativity, physical exercise, spiritual pursuits, work, academia, the main thing is that you indulge in those in a way that challenges you to a sufficient degree and in sufficient volume. Then, so long as you fulfill the aforementioned physiological criteria regarding breathing and posture, you will most likely need not to make any direct efforts towards working with your sexual energy, as your body will be in a position where it is able to intelligently direct energy into the direction your pursuits demand.
Thanks. I agree with you. Just took me a few times of retaining for 2 or 3 weeks to realize how dangerous and unhealthy that was without proper management of the energy.

And I found things like lifting weights and stuff useful to relieve some pressure but that is not the aim. The aim is to refine the energy.

I doubt anyone in this modern world doesn't have many blockages and that is why things like the microcosmic orbit can be dangerous if done properly. If done unproperly I think it is just placebo, people think they are moving something but they aren't. But I am not an expert and I tend to be more and more conservative as years pass as seeing and experiemcing how easy is to harm yourself when you don't know what you are doing.
 
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That's weird. It happens to me very noticeably. Didn't you notice a negative experience either?
Nope, not really. I don't believe in this stuff much because I've done (mostly) all of it before, in one way or another.

I've used pheromones ... Doesn't attract any women/girls in any social outings/etc. Also, no guys "feel threatened" around me or such when I did mega Androsterone either.

I've gone days and days on the whole "nofap" cruise ... Made zero difference with girls/women/etc. No one treated me any better/worse -- just zero difference either way.

I don't know why some of you guys say these compounds help, when I've personally done way bigger doses than many users here who claim they get "effects" from.

I mean I've started small, experimented, applied all over the body/different areas/routes (Androsterone/etc.) and it makes no difference IRL with any other people/attraction/etc. Either some people psychologically believe these compounds are working a certain way, or I'm incapable of producing something that causes said effects.
 

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Nope, not really. I don't believe in this stuff much because I've done (mostly) all of it before, in one way or another.

I've used pheromones ... Doesn't attract any women/girls in any social outings/etc. Also, no guys "feel threatened" around me or such when I did mega Androsterone either.

I've gone days and days on the whole "nofap" cruise ... Made zero difference with girls/women/etc. No one treated me any better/worse -- just zero difference either way.

I don't know why some of you guys say these compounds help, when I've personally done way bigger doses than many users here who claim they get "effects" from.

I mean I've started small, experimented, applied all over the body/different areas/routes (Androsterone/etc.) and it makes no difference IRL with any other people/attraction/etc. Either some people psychologically believe these compounds are working a certain way, or I'm incapable of producing something that causes said effects.
That's fine man. In any normal distribution there are always going to be cases who fall away from the mean. Maybe you already have an optimal androgens profile.
 

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Nope, not really. I don't believe in this stuff much because I've done (mostly) all of it before, in one way or another.

I've used pheromones ... Doesn't attract any women/girls in any social outings/etc. Also, no guys "feel threatened" around me or such when I did mega Androsterone either.

I've gone days and days on the whole "nofap" cruise ... Made zero difference with girls/women/etc. No one treated me any better/worse -- just zero difference either way.

I don't know why some of you guys say these compounds help, when I've personally done way bigger doses than many users here who claim they get "effects" from.

I mean I've started small, experimented, applied all over the body/different areas/routes (Androsterone/etc.) and it makes no difference IRL with any other people/attraction/etc. Either some people psychologically believe these compounds are working a certain way, or I'm incapable of producing something that causes said effects.
I don’t see how feeling absolutely fantastic doesn’t help your social situations in life?

First time doing progesterone 10mg literally took anxiety away.
Fixing my adrenals made me much more calm.
Doing 2mg of micronized T base last monday made me feel fantastic and I did get more attention from women.

What’s there not to believe? Good things are better than not so good things.
 

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I highly recommend videos on this channel:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F-Ic7NbxqM


I've only done a little bit of this so far. I'm very stubborn and also have severe ADD so my actual time commitment in actively practicing these methods is very, very small.

However, just being even peripherally aware of the concept of moving sexual energy out of the genitals and into the rest of the body has made a huge difference for me.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=979N1Bb-Miw


These concepts are worth their weight in gold. I think the most major pitfall with semen retention is most guys doing this get on the wagon via NoFap, and develop an unhealthy aversion to masturbation and sex. I actually still masturbate somewhat regularly, but without ejaculation, and I also avoid edging. Erections are a function of the parasympathetic nervous system and it is completely possible to experience an erection and sexual stimulation without going overboard into a sympathetic nervous system stress response.

Completely avoiding sexual stimulation will not help in the long run. It's counterproductive. True mastery is being able to circulate the sexual energy and control it. Sexual stimulation making someone lose their mind or control over themselves is a sign that they would benefit tremendously from these practices.

In porn-saturated society, it's extremely difficult to imagine sexual stimulation without ejaculation. The more you practice this, though, the better you get at it. And the less over stimulated and frustrated you will feel, to the point where it's normal to end a session of foreplay, sex, or masturbation, without ejaculating.

I've also found that I sleep much better when I'm abstaining from ejaculation. Masturbating and ejaculating to porn, which I did nightly for over 17 years, never helped me sleep. It was the opposite. Lots of times I'd finish and then stay up masturbating even later just to squeeze out some more dopamine and stimulation. Addiction.

Being able to feel really high libido and to have a hard erection while not feeling overstimulated or anxious or out of control is one of the best feelings in the world. That's really stepping into your power. Most people fall off when they believe the goal is to avoid sexual stimulation completely and they develop a fear and paranoia and dogma around sex and masturbation.

Quitting porn makes a huge difference, quitting ejaculation makes a huge difference. But we're still men and unless we want to live as if we have no dicks, we need to learn how to integrate and master sexual energy, not repress it through sheer force of will.

When you start to understand sexual energy as just that -- energy -- things start to make a lot more sense. Semen retention done the traditional way (spiritually) has nothing but benefits. Semen retention done the modern way (force of will, moralistic dogma, sex/porn/masturbation = bad) can be destructive at worst and counterproductive at best. You'll still get benefits like more discipline and developing will power and self control, but things are much easier when your entire mind/body/emotions/spirit are on board, and you feel good and inspired.

That's why I like that channel so much. I highly recommend checking it out and trying some of the exercises for yourself. The main thing is the belief system around sexual energy changing, which you can get just by watching videos like that and opening your mind up. I have done a very small amount of Qigong and the lower dan tien building exercise he talks about, as well as deep breathing and somatically FEELING sexual energy in other parts of my body than my penis -- that's a big one right there. To focus on what you're actually physically feeling. Not visualizing energy moving. But shifting your awareness to what is going on in the rest of your body other than your genitals when you're aroused.

Super enlightening stuff. And a gradual, long process. The way I see it for me, 1.5 years is a drop in a bucket compared to over 17 years of addiction to porn and ejaculation. These things will take time. Gradual and profound. Like a tree growing.

I just watched the first video. I am glad the guy doesn't teach people the full qigong microcosmic orbit out of the blue. Although he seems to know TCM/qigong.

What he teaches seems pretty safe, seems more like physical exercises to release tension.

Interestingly, when I was practising TRE exercises (David Bercelli) my body produced automatically very similar movements than those of the guy in the video (pelvis and neck). Maybe the body starts unblocking what needs to be unblocked first. It is a very good exercise then because you just let your body move spontaneusly, you don't have to control anything or force anything. You just "surrender" and the body does its magic. I must try them again. Maybe even do them after retaining for some time and see what happens.

You might be interested on TRE mate. The book is there in PDF and you really need to read only the chapter with the exercises, the rest is accesory. I would say in 1 hour you can be shaking. It is very interesting and definitely worth trying at least once. If you try it please let me know what you think of it.

@TheSir have you ever done them?
 

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@TheSir have you ever done them?
I've done TRE, but of transmutation exercises such as pulling energy upwards the spine I have only read about. I harbor what I would like to call a healthy apprehension towards directly manipulating the bodily energies unless I know exactly what I am doing (which I do not). I'm strongly of the opinion that esoteric knowledge will find you when you are ready to integrate it, and that trying to force-integrate such knowledge will more often than not end badly. Indian mental hospitals are abundant in unfortunate aspirants who tried to force states such as kundalini awakening and went psychotic or otherwise damaged their health. Even on this forum there is a member whose health suddenly shattered to pieces during a meditation session on a long streak of abstinence (thread here). The only exercise I've found safe and helpful is quite contrary to the upward pull and involves imagining an etheric current coursing through your body from above the head to below your feet. Namely it achieves a gentle sense of grounding, relaxation and more even distribution of bodily energies by relieving postural tension and activating parasympathetic mode. I do it whenever I feel anxious or have cold extremities both, both for which the exercise begins to work in a matter of seconds to minutes. If you can stand some subjective and dubious esoteric claims, you can read more about the exercise on Dr. Wilsons page: meditation
 
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I don’t see how feeling absolutely fantastic doesn’t help your social situations in life?

First time doing progesterone 10mg literally took anxiety away.
Fixing my adrenals made me much more calm.
Doing 2mg of micronized T base last monday made me feel fantastic and I did get more attention from women.

What’s there not to believe? Good things are better than not so good things.
How did you fix your adrenals exactly?

I think mine are on overdrive. I have to calm them.
 

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I've done TRE, but of transmutation exercises such as pulling energy upwards the spine I have only read about. I harbor what I would like to call a healthy apprehension towards directly manipulating the bodily energies unless I know exactly what I am doing (which I do not). I'm strongly of the opinion that esoteric knowledge will find you when you are ready to integrate it, and that trying to force-integrate such knowledge will more often than not end badly. Indian mental hospitals are abundant in unfortunate aspirants who tried to force states such as kundalini awakening and went psychotic or otherwise damaged their health. Even on this forum there is a member whose health suddenly shattered to pieces during a meditation session on a long streak of abstinence (thread here). The only exercise I've found safe and helpful is quite contrary to the upward pull and involves imagining an etheric current coursing through your body from above the head to below your feet. Namely it achieves a gentle sense of grounding, relaxation and more even distribution of bodily energies by relieving postural tension and activating parasympathetic mode. I do it whenever I feel anxious or have cold extremities both, both for which the exercise begins to work in a matter of seconds to minutes. If you can stand some subjective and dubious esoteric claims, you can read more about the exercise on Dr. Wilsons page: meditation
I agree with 100% of what you said and you extended very well what I tried to explain in the previous posts of this thread.

TRE it is completely safe I think. It does not work directly on energetic fields, and if it does, does it in a way that the body knows how far to get or where to stop. It is a bit like Groff's breathing exercises. You don't use your mind at all. You could be playing videogames or reading a book. I find that amazing.

I have known the work of Dr Wilson for years and I know the exercise you mean. Yes it is very helpful. Every once in a while (maybe every couple of years or so) I have to go back to his website and find a piece of information that I can't find antwhere else. Recently I had to check his website for the energetic vampires article as I seem to have a dreadful one at workplace. Mostly all other info about it on the internet is very low quality/obvious. What other things you find useful from him? The guy is nuts :)
 

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btw Wilson didn't invent that. "Water" exercises in some taoist schools are similar. And also some other buddist exercises like the "butter" one.
 

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I agree with 100% of what you said and you extended very well what I tried to explain in the previous posts of this thread.

TRE it is completely safe I think. It does not work directly on energetic fields, and if it does, does it in a way that the body knows how far to get or where to stop. It is a bit like Groff's breathing exercises. You don't use your mind at all. You could be playing videogames or reading a book. I find that amazing.

I have known the work of Dr Wilson for years and I know the exercise you mean. Yes it is very helpful. Every once in a while (maybe every couple of years or so) I have to go back to his website and find a piece of information that I can't find antwhere else. Recently I had to check his website for the energetic vampires article as I seem to have a dreadful one at workplace. Mostly all other info about it on the internet is very low quality/obvious. What other things you find useful from him? The guy is nuts :)
There should indeed be no risks to TRE, apart from spontaneously surfacing possibly uncomfortable emotions. It may be good to begin with just a minute or two a day and gradually work your way upwards, lest you end up unwittingly uncovering too much dirt for you to handle at a time.

Though Wilson's website is full of intellectually interesting ideas, I haven't found much practical value in them yet. I'm currently in the process of trying out a variation of his fruitless developmental diet now that it's not a good fruit season anyway. Namely I put a bunch of different onions, leek, cruciferous vegetables and carrots -- up to 7-9 different vegetables -- into a blender in order to reduce them to small bits that are easily boiled into well-digestible form, then eat half a quart of that at twice a day with meals. When prepared this way, not even the considerable amount of onions seems to cause any gas. I'm also a few of days into his penile peroxide implant. At 1-2 hours of peroxide exposure per day, nothing noteworthy has happened so far, neither in or outside the sessions.
 

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There should indeed be no risks to TRE, apart from spontaneously surfacing possibly uncomfortable emotions. It may be good to begin with just a minute or two a day and gradually work your way upwards, lest you end up unwittingly uncovering too much dirt for you to handle at a time.

Though Wilson's website is full of intellectually interesting ideas, I haven't found much practical value in them yet. I'm currently in the process of trying out a variation of his fruitless developmental diet now that it's not a good fruit season anyway. Namely I put a bunch of different onions, leek, cruciferous vegetables and carrots -- up to 7-9 different vegetables -- into a blender in order to reduce them to small bits that are easily boiled into well-digestible form, then eat half a quart of that at twice a day with meals. When prepared this way, not even the considerable amount of onions seems to cause any gas. I'm also a few of days into his penile peroxide implant. At 1-2 hours of peroxide exposure per day, nothing noteworthy has happened so far, neither in or outside the sessions.
Vegetables are healthy I don't have any doubt of that. Even the ones high on carotenes. What kind, how much and how you prepare them seems the tough part to guess correctly. Probably a middle term is a good approach.
 

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How did you fix your adrenals exactly?

I think mine are on overdrive. I have to calm them.
I might’ve made it sound like it was instant but it took me a few years.

For me it was making sure I get enough rest and nourishment from foods but also rewiring my mental state.
So naturally it was all the peaty supplementary foods like liver, oysters, OJ, cheese, eggs etc. for a prolonged period of time.
But not giving a **** anout things you shouldn’t be giving a **** about helped a lot too.

So it’s not really 1 particular thing.

However one specific thing that can help is the adrenal cocktail:
- coconut water
- orange juice
- baking soda

Gives you vit C, sodium, potassium and balances electrolytes. Good for adrenals.
Just make sure you take this after your meals… not on an empty stomach.

Same with coffee, never on an empty stomach.
Especially for adrenal fatigued people like us.
 
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