Sea Salt = Polution

himsahimsa

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The North Sea was used by the Soviets and the Europeans for 50 years as a dumping ground for nuclear waste. They used plain steel drums, like 50 gallon oil drums. The water of the north Sea is polluted by that material. All sea salt is made from near coastal water that is washed into broad flat ponds by the tides. These are usually industrial sites or near landfills or the most egregious slums. Nobody builds salt flats in upscale residential or vacation areas. Coastal water is the recipient of all industrial wastes and sewage effluent from nearby land and sometimes not so near by. Bulldozers drive through the drying ponds. They are not special food grade bulldozers. Only the poorest people are employed making the salt because that's who lives there. You've seen pictures of places like that.

If you use sea salt from anywhere you should really give up all the bother of trying to be healthy. If you use Celtic sea salt you are completely suicidal. There are no Druids involved. There is nothing good or mystically healing about it. If its glowing it's not because it's shining with vital energy.
 

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I think that is why RP recommends canning and pickling salt. It's pure and free of iodine and anticaking substances. You just honestly don't know what your getting with the unrefined stuff and it's more expensive as well. That was one of the things I had to give up after reading Peat's work, the thought of refined as equaling bad. Many times it's actually good, like with salt and coconut oil.
 

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bradley said:
And salt from ancient inland seas? I.E. Real Salt from Utah?

The salts from inland locations like utah, or many places in europe, will not contain any nuclear contamination. Some inland salt mines are completely free of any industrial revolution contamination/pollution. That being said, Ray still suggests avoiding unrefined salt as there's no telling what it's mineral ratios are. So for the extreme price markup of specialty salt, you might actually be doing harm by ingesting high amounts of trace minerals which might throw things out of whack. Ray would suggest buying pickling/canning salt, and then use the saved money for other food like organic or additive free choices.
 

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Blossom said:
I think that is why RP recommends canning and pickling salt. It's pure and free of iodine and anticaking substances. You just honestly don't know what your getting with the unrefined stuff and it's more expensive as well. That was one of the things I had to give up after reading Peat's work, the thought of refined as equaling bad. Many times it's actually good, like with salt and coconut oil.

Very good point, Blossom. I've heard Dr. Peat talking about too much iodine.

Some business genius conned us into believing that adding industrial iodine improves our health and keeps goiter away..

We've been told that iodine improved the thyroid function of some goiter-plagued berber tribes. Very poor people who ate no fish because they lived away from the sea. I wish I could grab hold of that old Algerian study, it was done under socialism in the seventies, I believe. All factories were state-owned at that time, so there was seemingly no financial bias. After that study was published, iodine was added systematically to all salts.
 

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himsahimsa said:
The North Sea was used by the Soviets and the Europeans for 50 years as a dumping ground for nuclear waste. They used plain steel drums, like 50 gallon oil drums. The water of the north Sea is polluted by that material. All sea salt is made from near coastal water that is washed into broad flat ponds by the tides. These are usually industrial sites or near landfills or the most egregious slums. Nobody builds salt flats in upscale residential or vacation areas. Coastal water is the recipient of all industrial wastes and sewage effluent from nearby land and sometimes not so near by. Bulldozers drive through the drying ponds. They are not special food grade bulldozers. Only the poorest people are employed making the salt because that's who lives there. You've seen pictures of places like that.

If you use sea salt from anywhere you should really give up all the bother of trying to be healthy. If you use Celtic sea salt you are completely suicidal. There are no Druids involved. There is nothing good or mystically healing about it. If its glowing it's not because it's shining with vital energy.

I think Celtic salt comes from the Celtic sea.
If the toxins are in the sea and salt from it, they are going to be in the fish and shellfish, many times more.
 
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If it's been buried for a couple hundred million years and it doesn't have a natural toxin inclusion, arsenic, for instance....

The Celtic Sea and the North Sea are joined.

You guys are too hard on iodine. Get a bunch for a while so tissues that need it can get all happy and then lay off for a while so everybody's not getting hammered every day. Cycle, like everything cycles. Unless when you eat it you just always react badly, then, of course, you still have to get enough. Right? Zero = you die.

There's a lot of stuff like that. You really do need it but high input all the time is pathological. High in the gut or high in the blood. Iron is that way. You need it for hemoglobin (not only) but if it's always in the diet you promote oxidative stress and bacterial overgrowth or derangement. So high iron meals are separated by a greater number of low or zero(ish) iron meals. Pulses, peristalses, tides, seasons.

If you've seen the dioramas you know that we grew up eating exclusively woolly mammoths and giant bison and wildebeests and cave bears and god knows what wild and huge and deadly (and iron rich) things. That's such a testicle's eye view. You only have to ask the squirrels to get the truth. We grew up on rodents and rabbits and birds and fish once in a while. Low iron. If we were lucky, seasonally, something big. High iron.

Rent the Disney movie "Never Cry Wolf". I know.. Disney.. put it aside. It's totally non-stupid.
 

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You guys are too hard on iodine. Get a bunch for a while so tissues that need it can get all happy and then lay off for a while so everybody's not getting hammered every day. Cycle, like everything cycles. Unless when you eat it you just always react badly, then, of course, you still have to get enough. Right? Zero = you die.

You're right.

My problem is just the difficulty of getting non-iodated salt where I live. Selling salt that does not contain iodine is illegal here. I think I'm getting enough iodine just from sea air and fish.
 

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You can't get canning and pickling salt where you live? That would be so sad.
 

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litespirit, Can someone ship it to you?
 
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Don't worry about it!
You'll get your cortisol in a wad, you'll explode!.
It's just salt.
You know how much iodine is in iodized salt? If you think that much is going to hurt you, you better never ever go to the beach.
You can use swimming pool salt (very pure when specified 'no additives').
Kosher salt.
Halal salt.
Rock salt.
 

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litespirit, Can someone ship it to you?

Yes, of course. But that would be a waste of money.

I'm talking about the difficulty of getting it locally. Sea salt is sold everywhere because it's naturally iodized and thus legal. I'll have to travel a couple hundred miles somewhere and get a fair quantity of raw salt..
 

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himsahimsa said:
Don't worry about it!
You'll get your cortisol in a wad, you'll explode!.
It's just salt.
You know how much iodine is in iodized salt? If you think that much is going to hurt you, you better never ever go to the beach.
You can use swimming pool salt (very pure when specified 'no additives').
Kosher salt.
Halal salt.
Rock salt.

It has never been as issue till I heard RP talking about it. Myself, I don't think I'm getting too much of that.
 

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himsahimsa said:
If it's been buried for a couple hundred million years and it doesn't have a natural toxin inclusion, arsenic, for instance....

The Celtic Sea and the North Sea are joined.

You guys are too hard on iodine. Get a bunch for a while so tissues that need it can get all happy and then lay off for a while so everybody's not getting hammered every day. Cycle, like everything cycles. Unless when you eat it you just always react badly, then, of course, you still have to get enough. Right? Zero = you die.

There's a lot of stuff like that. You really do need it but high input all the time is pathological. High in the gut or high in the blood. Iron is that way. You need it for hemoglobin (not only) but if it's always in the diet you promote oxidative stress and bacterial overgrowth or derangement. So high iron meals are separated by a greater number of low or zero(ish) iron meals. Pulses, peristalses, tides, seasons.

If you've seen the dioramas you know that we grew up eating exclusively woolly mammoths and giant bison and wildebeests and cave bears and god knows what wild and huge and deadly (and iron rich) things. That's such a testicle's eye view. You only have to ask the squirrels to get the truth. We grew up on rodents and rabbits and birds and fish once in a while. Low iron. If we were lucky, seasonally, something big. High iron.

Rent the Disney movie "Never Cry Wolf". I know.. Disney.. put it aside. It's totally non-stupid.

Himsa- Your mentioning "iron meals separated by a greater number of low or zero...", would having some sort of red meat once a day be too much iron? I only eat about 3 oz a day, either lamb, buffalo, or beef.

Thanks-
 
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