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Mittir: is he using instant coffee or filter coffee? or what type of coffee
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He uses black roast coffee with strong drip brewing. 3 days for 1 lb of coffee meanssuperhuman said:Mittir: is he using instant coffee or filter coffee? or what type of coffee
M, for safety purposes, let's advise everyone of the cautionary part of his email, which is that he dilutes his strong coffee extract greatly with milk, so that the final result is stronger than standard restaurant coffee.Mittir said:He uses black roast coffee with strong drip brewing. 3 days for 1 lb of coffee meanssuperhuman said:Mittir: is he using instant coffee or filter coffee? or what type of coffee
about 150 grams daily, that is about 2000 mg of caffeine. Extraction of caffeine
depends on temperature and time. I do not know if extraction rate is lower
for small amount of water. If the extraction is 30 percent then there is about
600 mg of caffeine in one cup. With higher extraction rate it can be as high as 1400 mg.
I use instant coffee to get a clear idea about caffeine and magnesium intake.
He uses black roast coffee for Niacin intake, he gets about 40 mg daily.
Black roast coffee has much higher content of niacin. According to nutritiondata
100 grams of instant coffee has about 3000 mg of caffeine.
Mittir said:I had this impression from your interviews that you drink several cups of strong coffee .
But someone at forum is claiming that you drink weak coffee in the form of
" cafe con leche". Can you please clarify if you drink weak coffee or strong coffee.
What is your daily caffeine intake? I have heard you recommending 3-5 cups of coffee.
What do you think is the safe dose of caffeine intake daily for average
person?( with sugar and milk) Do you think it is safe to use caffeine tablet
of 600 mg or more to treat fatty liver?
Ray Peat said:That would be too much caffeine at once, unless it's with a big meal to slow its absorption. Coffee is much more than caffeine. A pound of coffee might last me three days, I'm not sure, but I use as much for a cup as Folger's says to use for a quart. When the concentrated extract is mixed with milk, the mixture is stronger than standard restaurant coffee.
Mittir said:He uses black roast coffee with strong drip brewing. 3 days for 1 lb of coffee meanssuperhuman said:Mittir: is he using instant coffee or filter coffee? or what type of coffee
about 150 grams daily, that is about 2000 mg of caffeine. Extraction of caffeine
depends on temperature and time. I do not know if extraction rate is lower
for small amount of water. If the extraction is 30 percent then there is about
600 mg of caffeine in one cup. With higher extraction rate it can be as high as 1400 mg.
I use instant coffee to get a clear idea about caffeine and magnesium intake.
He uses black roast coffee for Niacin intake, he gets about 40 mg daily.
Black roast coffee has much higher content of niacin. According to nutritiondata
100 grams of instant coffee has about 3000 mg of caffeine.
Edit: Since you posted this question in "Ray Peat Email Advice Depository
Discussion/Comment Thread" , i assumed you read RP's email response on his coffee
habit. I was just talking about his brewing process . If you have not read the email,
he adds that brewed cup of strong coffee with milk to make "cafe con leche".
He does not drink that drip brewed strong cup of coffee straight up.
superhuman said:Mittir said:He uses black roast coffee with strong drip brewing. 3 days for 1 lb of coffee meanssuperhuman said:Mittir: is he using instant coffee or filter coffee? or what type of coffee
about 150 grams daily, that is about 2000 mg of caffeine. Extraction of caffeine
depends on temperature and time. I do not know if extraction rate is lower
for small amount of water. If the extraction is 30 percent then there is about
600 mg of caffeine in one cup. With higher extraction rate it can be as high as 1400 mg.
I use instant coffee to get a clear idea about caffeine and magnesium intake.
He uses black roast coffee for Niacin intake, he gets about 40 mg daily.
Black roast coffee has much higher content of niacin. According to nutritiondata
100 grams of instant coffee has about 3000 mg of caffeine.
Edit: Since you posted this question in "Ray Peat Email Advice Depository
Discussion/Comment Thread" , i assumed you read RP's email response on his coffee
habit. I was just talking about his brewing process . If you have not read the email,
he adds that brewed cup of strong coffee with milk to make "cafe con leche".
He does not drink that drip brewed strong cup of coffee straight up.
Thanx a ton Mittir. Man that is strong and alot of coffee/caffeine. Wich i love to hear since ive experienced with it myself.
RP: told me in a email that coffee/caffeine can make up for lack of thyroid hormone and hypothyroid could benefit from a dozen a day
How much are you doing now?
Do you know if RP uses a machine or do it manually since if you do it manually i guess you can just run the coffee through the filter one more time to make it stronger
superhuman said:Thats awesome, did not now instant coffee had that much potassium.
Gonna need to smack down some of that myself.
But hasnt it been debated about instant coffee and bad fats/oils and stuff in it?
Ray Peat said:ttramone
Me: Just wondering why some of us get severe withdrawals (headaches, fatigue, drowsiness, low mood) if we don't use coffee daily. We don't get side effects from drinking coffee, just if we don't drink it for 24 hours (sometimes less). These 'withdrawals' can last as long as 5-6 days. Why would this happen? We are thinking there could be issues with our liver? Adrenals?
RP: I suspect that it happens mostly with hypothyroidism, because in the 1970s I averaged dozens of cups a day, and thought about it as soon as I woke up, then suddenly after I took some thyroid, I didn't feel any need for it.
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Note to newcomers :i am not suggesting you drink 50 cups of a day.Ray Peat said:It does not hurt to drink 50 if that is what balances your metabolism ,But i think everyone should try to get from 3 to 5 cups a day ,there has been studies in which people who drank more than 5 cups had lower incidence of various kind of cancer and lower incidence of dementia."
Mittir said:Note to newcomers :i am not suggesting you drink 50 cups of a day.
Mittir said:I used to get moderate caffeine withdrawal if i missed coffee for a day.
In recent days, i experimented i can go without coffee for days
without any kind of withdrawal or cravings. The experience is similar
to the one RP experienced after adding thyroid. I do not have strong cravings
for coffee anymore but i feel better is i drink it.
Mittir said:I was never a regular coffee drinker until there was a Starbucks across my place.
That was around the time i was diagnosed with sub-clinical hypothyroidism.
All the hypothyroid people i know are heavy coffee drinker too.
Now i realize that it was not the Starbucks that push me to coffee, it was the
hypo condition. I always added tons of sugar and cream to coffee and most
people i know who drinks black coffee are jittery.
Another thing i have noticed that since adding 1-2 quarts of apple juice
a day i do not have cravings for my regular comfort foods like french fries.
pizza , burger and all kind of fried foods. I thought those were my favorite foods.
I think apple juice has helped me to have a steady blood sugar which i was missing
before. I still crave liver if i miss it for few days, that is always a good sign.
I think my diet is near perfect now, only thing i plan to add in future is gelatine.
Hi Mittir,Mittir said:I was never a regular coffee drinker until there was a Starbucks across my place.
That was around the time i was diagnosed with sub-clinical hypothyroidism.
All the hypothyroid people i know are heavy coffee drinker too.
Now i realize that it was not the Starbucks that push me to coffee, it was the
hypo condition. I always added tons of sugar and cream to coffee and most
people i know who drinks black coffee are jittery.
Another thing i have noticed that since adding 1-2 quarts of apple juice
a day i do not have cravings for my regular comfort foods like french fries.
pizza , burger and all kind of fried foods. I thought those were my favorite foods.
I think apple juice has helped me to have a steady blood sugar which i was missing
before. I still crave liver if i miss it for few days, that is always a good sign.
I think my diet is near perfect now, only thing i plan to add in future is gelatine.
The "something special" to me is the extra shot or two of espresso!Such_Saturation said:Mittir said:I was never a regular coffee drinker until there was a Starbucks across my place.
That was around the time i was diagnosed with sub-clinical hypothyroidism.
All the hypothyroid people i know are heavy coffee drinker too.
Now i realize that it was not the Starbucks that push me to coffee, it was the
hypo condition. I always added tons of sugar and cream to coffee and most
people i know who drinks black coffee are jittery.
Another thing i have noticed that since adding 1-2 quarts of apple juice
a day i do not have cravings for my regular comfort foods like french fries.
pizza , burger and all kind of fried foods. I thought those were my favorite foods.
I think apple juice has helped me to have a steady blood sugar which i was missing
before. I still crave liver if i miss it for few days, that is always a good sign.
I think my diet is near perfect now, only thing i plan to add in future is gelatine.
I am under the impression that Starbucks coffee has something special to give a special "high". It is either an added stimulant like caffeine or something to let you tolerate more coffee.
lol Blossom. But I have to agree with Such that there's a little something else going on.Blossom said:Such_Saturation said:Mittir said:I was never a regular coffee drinker until there was a Starbucks across my place.
That was around the time i was diagnosed with sub-clinical hypothyroidism.
All the hypothyroid people i know are heavy coffee drinker too.
Now i realize that it was not the Starbucks that push me to coffee, it was the
hypo condition. I always added tons of sugar and cream to coffee and most
people i know who drinks black coffee are jittery.
Another thing i have noticed that since adding 1-2 quarts of apple juice
a day i do not have cravings for my regular comfort foods like french fries.
pizza , burger and all kind of fried foods. I thought those were my favorite foods.
I think apple juice has helped me to have a steady blood sugar which i was missing
before. I still crave liver if i miss it for few days, that is always a good sign.
I think my diet is near perfect now, only thing i plan to add in future is gelatine.
I am under the impression that Starbucks coffee has something special to give a special "high". It is either an added stimulant like caffeine or something to let you tolerate more coffee.
The "something special" to me is the extra shot or two of espresso!
Blossom said:The "something special" to me is the extra shot or two of espresso!Such_Saturation said:Mittir said:I was never a regular coffee drinker until there was a Starbucks across my place.
That was around the time i was diagnosed with sub-clinical hypothyroidism.
All the hypothyroid people i know are heavy coffee drinker too.
Now i realize that it was not the Starbucks that push me to coffee, it was the
hypo condition. I always added tons of sugar and cream to coffee and most
people i know who drinks black coffee are jittery.
Another thing i have noticed that since adding 1-2 quarts of apple juice
a day i do not have cravings for my regular comfort foods like french fries.
pizza , burger and all kind of fried foods. I thought those were my favorite foods.
I think apple juice has helped me to have a steady blood sugar which i was missing
before. I still crave liver if i miss it for few days, that is always a good sign.
I think my diet is near perfect now, only thing i plan to add in future is gelatine.
I am under the impression that Starbucks coffee has something special to give a special "high". It is either an added stimulant like caffeine or something to let you tolerate more coffee.
Mittir said:I was never a regular coffee drinker until there was a Starbucks across my place.
That was around the time i was diagnosed with sub-clinical hypothyroidism.
All the hypothyroid people i know are heavy coffee drinker too.
Now i realize that it was not the Starbucks that push me to coffee, it was the
hypo condition. I always added tons of sugar and cream to coffee and most
people i know who drinks black coffee are jittery.
Another thing i have noticed that since adding 1-2 quarts of apple juice
a day i do not have cravings for my regular comfort foods like french fries.
pizza , burger and all kind of fried foods. I thought those were my favorite foods.
I think apple juice has helped me to have a steady blood sugar which i was missing
before. I still crave liver if i miss it for few days, that is always a good sign.
I think my diet is near perfect now, only thing i plan to add in future is gelatine.