RP Email Advice Comment: Coffee

Mittir

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My current diet is following

4-6 cups of Iced Coffee
Farmer's Cheese from 1 to 1.5 quart of milk, with a lot of salt.
Apple Juice with lot of baking soda 1-2 quart. Avg 1.5 quart
Beef liver almost daily. weekly its between 6-10 oz
I still eat some rice at lunch with fish or meat and some vegetables
If i drink 1-2 cups of Apple juice with rice i do not get the usual sugar crash.
I add about 1-2 tbs of coconut oil with rice to make it safer.
RP has mentioned fructose acts like Insulin in metabolising glucose and fructose.
At dinner chicken neck or fish head soup for thyroid. It is a big factor.
I also eat other foods if that is tasty and something i like.
I am eating or drinking some thing almost every 1-2 hours.
Carrot salad with vinegar and a lot of coconut oil or bamboo shoot.
Sometime i just eat apple, guava or pineapple with some coconut oil
instead of carrot salad. It has similar effect, but not as strong as carrot salad.
Protein intake is at least 80 grams often 100 grams. I have gained a lot of
muscle since starting peat without doing any kind of exercise.
Lost about 22 lbs in last 1.5 years and i am still losing.
I believe calcium played a big role in weight loss.

Supplement:
Extra calcium 500-1000 mg in addition to calcium i get from milk and cheese.
Extra calcium increases the calcium to phosphorus ratio.
I add some calcium hydroxide (slaked lime, made from
oyster shell) neutralized with vinegar, which gives me calcium acetate,
It is a phosphate binder.It is not peat approved but i can not tolerate egg shell powder.
I take this with liver or phosphorus rich meals like fish or meat to lower phosphorus
absorption. I think it has tremendously helped me in increasing temperature and metabolism.

Niacinamide 100 mg 2-3 times a day with meal. It has been a huge help.

Vitamin E 400 mg once or every other day.

Vitamin D 100,000 to 200,000 once a month. That is equivalent to
3000 iu - 6000 IU daily. It made a huge difference.

Cyproheptadine 1/4th to half mg twice a day. It has been so far
the most wonderful thing for me. I have been using it for about 3 weeks now.

Bag breathing 2 minutes 3-4 times a day.

I have probably missed something. I can not remember now.

Edit:
I forgot to mention red light therapy. I use 400 watts of
regular incandescent light from sundown to bed time.
It is the easiest way to improve health.

I also apply a good amount of coconut oil all over my body before i take
a shower. It leaves a light layer of oil after the shower, does not feel sticky.

Vitamin D: I used to take 2,000-4,000 IU vitamin D daily and then switched
to applying on skin as RP does. I did not like the way it felt on skin and then
moved to sunlight for vitamin D. Then i found this pharmaceutical grade
1,000,000 to 2,000,000 IU of vitamin D ampoules. I felt great after starting
to use that monthly, it immediately warms me up and stays warm for
4-5 days. I know that daily dosing is the best, especially for anti cancer and
other cellular activities. But, for now i am settling for warmth and it's effect
on PTH and calcium. I am trying to figure out a way to make a oily solution
from this Pharmaceutical grade vitamin D ampoule so that i can take a drop
daily instead of whole ampoule every month.
 
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awesome Mittir
Eating every 1-2 hours, that must be a hassle tho :p
 
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@superhuman
That is the problem of increased metabolism.
It is mostly either drinking iced coffee or Apple juice with small piece of
farmer's cheese. I am eating like my 3 yr old nephew, he eats every
2 hours and he demands food. His diet is mostly sugared milk , eggs, fruit juice
with some other type of foods.
 
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Mittir said:
@superhuman
That is the problem of increased metabolism.
It is mostly either drinking iced coffee or Apple juice with small piece of
farmer's cheese. I am eating like my 3 yr old nephew, he eats every
2 hours and he demands food. His diet is mostly sugared milk , eggs, fruit juice
with some other type of foods.

get you.
How many calories do you consume a day then?
What about eating bigger meals then so it lasts longer?
 
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According to cronometer, i eat at least 2500 calories from my regular foods
iced coffee, apple juice, liver, farmer's cheese, sugar/honey, coconut oil.
But, i also eat a lot of other home made foods that is difficult to calculate.
My guess is it is around 3000-3500 calories. I have big lunch.
Except for lunch, rest of the day i am drinking iced coffee or
Apple juice every hour or two according to cravings. I do not force myself to eat
something if i do not feel like eating. Recently, i am drinking a lot of iced coffee
and Apple Juice from sunset till bed time. It surprises me that i drink so much
liquid but it does not wake me up in the middle of the night to urinate.
It is a huge change for me. I think light therapy at night under 500 watt of
incandescent also helps to keep me warm and causes evaporation and that
thyroid soup really warms me up.
 
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Mittir: that is awesome.
How much salt/sodium are you getting a day?
What is your stats btw, height,weight,age etc and are you very active? 3000-3500 kcal and maintaining or even loosing fat is awesome progress.
 
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I do not count added sodium. I salt to taste. I count other minerals.
Salt intake is high when i eat farmers cheese, tangy fruits and apple juice.
About stat ,all i can say is that I have lost 14 percent of my body weight so far
and losing weight was not part of my goal in peating.
I am not active at all, sedentary but i spend a good amount of
time buying foods and preparing them and minimum office work.
But, i might start doing yoga or meditation soon.
 
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mittir - I may have missed it but how come you choose apple juice over orange juice? Do you buy expensive apple juice or cheaper varieties? Thanks.
 
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@chris
I almost always had problem with orange juice and i think lot of
other members have same problem. I have tried in many different ways to
make it tolerable, but i did not work. Tried grape juice and did not work.
For a long time i did my peating without fruit juice. I was using coffee as a
substitute for potassium, magnesium and antioxidants in fruits.
Finally i stumbled upon commercial Apple Juice, knowing it does not have pectin.
I asked RP about it ,he gave a response that is in email advice section.
He said if orange is not sweet and ripe straining will not help.
He said apple juice is fine and his only concern was that there is
fungul content in Apple Juice due to spoiled apple they use.
I have tried 10-15 local brands and finally found two that does not
bother me. I can not mention those brands but it is not available elsewhere.
Adding baking soda makes it quite safe for me. I think high fructose content
of certain varities of apple suits me better.But Apple Juice makers do no
mention what kind of apples they are using. Gala and Fuji apples have
around 70 percent fructose.
 
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Such_Saturation said:
Wouldn't olive oil or butter with rice be better at making it "safe"? http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/10/1/6

By the way 1200mg is sixteen espressos, so already we are going for those epic fifty :mrgreen:

Reading the abstract it seems like they are claiming fish oil is better than saturated fat
in lowering endotoxin. I only use coconut oil. Olive oil too much PUFA and i do not react
well to butter. It slows down my metabolism and gives me strange skin problem.
It is possible they used bad kind of coconut oil. Authors are from Animal science,
toxicology department and human nutrion department. I do not have good impression
about these departments. I have noticed people from nutrition tend to write terrible
papers. RP has mentioned saturated fat kills bacteria and PUFA mostly feed bad bacteria.
One explanation is that coconut oil temporarily increases endotoxin by killing bad bacteria.

About 50 cups of coffee, i remember a TV interview with late Venezuelan president
Hugo Chavez that he drank about 50 cups of coffee a day. But i think those are
tiny cups of strong coffee, not usual 6 oz or 8 oz cup. Either he had cancer from drinking
all those coffee or he was in bad health and used coffee to compensate for that.
 
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Mittir said:
Such_Saturation said:
Wouldn't olive oil or butter with rice be better at making it "safe"? http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/10/1/6

By the way 1200mg is sixteen espressos, so already we are going for those epic fifty :mrgreen:

Reading the abstract it seems like they are claiming fish oil is better than saturated fat
in lowering endotoxin. I only use coconut oil. Olive oil too much PUFA and i do not react
well to butter. It slows down my metabolism and gives me strange skin problem.
It is possible they used bad kind of coconut oil. Authors are from Animal science,
toxicology department and human nutrion department. I do not have good impression
about these departments. I have noticed people from nutrition tend to write terrible
papers. RP has mentioned saturated fat kills bacteria and PUFA mostly feed bad bacteria.
One explanation is that coconut oil temporarily increases endotoxin by killing bad bacteria.

About 50 cups of coffee, i remember a TV interview with late Venezuelan president
Hugo Chavez that he drank about 50 cups of coffee a day. But i think those are
tiny cups of strong coffee, not usual 6 oz or 8 oz cup. Either he had cancer from drinking
all those coffee or he was in bad health and used coffee to compensate for that.

That is a good thought! Unfortunately when they simply say "vegetable oil" and "fish oil" it really does not help. I think chain lengths might dissolve endotoxin better or worse, surfactant ability might change, etc. Coconut oil is likely absorbed just outside of the stomach as well. I've only heard Ray Peat talk about rice with butter.
 
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