Robert F. Kennedy Jr as democratic nominee?

[Izzybelle]

RFK jr. was on Breaking Points

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjqDoPD7AXM

This was great until the end when she started spewing the programmed talking points over everything that he was trying to say. Sick of it.

 

[nomoreketones]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/05/15/rfk-jr-2024-campaign-trump-celebrity-conspiracy/

Title:
"His name is Kennedy. His campaign is pure Trump"

Starts with:
"It doesn't surprise me at all that a Trumpian candidate would emerge inside the Democratic Party, someone trying to run for president with the same cynical mix of star power and misinformation that fueled a nationalist uprising in 2016."

 

[area51puy]

This was great until the end when she started spewing the programmed talking points over everything that he was trying to say. Sick of it.

I went through the comments and she is getting raked over the coals. And every comment was positive about RFK Jr

 

[area51puy]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/05/15/rfk-jr-2024-campaign-trump-celebrity-conspiracy/

Title:
"His name is Kennedy. His campaign is pure Trump"

Starts with:
"It doesn't surprise me at all that a Trumpian candidate would emerge inside the Democratic Party, someone trying to run for president with the same cynical mix of star power and misinformation that fueled a nationalist uprising in 2016."

The left and right have been bombarded with propaganda and hopefully people see through it this time.

The good thing is people are losing faith in msm and he is intelligent and well spoken and msm no longer has a monopoly on the news so with time and doing interviews all over the YouTube news and talk shows people will see the truth.

 

[nomoreketones]

The good thing is people are losing faith in msm and he is intelligent and well spoken and msm no longer has a monopoly on the news so with time and doing interviews all over the YouTube news and talk shows people will see the truth.

I hope you are right.

Unfortunately I know too many people brainwashed by msm who will never see the RFK jr. interviews because the interviews are outside of the curated news these people are exposed to. Once I see some of these people wake up I will start to have some hope.

The more I see of RFK jr. the more I like him.

 

[area51puy]

I hope you are right.

Unfortunately I know too many people brainwashed by msm who will never see the RFK jr. interviews because the interviews are outside of the curated news these people are exposed to. Once I see some of these people wake up I will start to have some hope.

The more I see of RFK jr. the more I like him.

View: https://youtu.be/J7-0LNiMIBA


They posted just the vaccine section of the interview and I hope it goes viral. There were 10 k comments and I scrolled down on the comment section and every comment including their members that pay for their show just pist and giving her ***t and scrolled and skimmed through probably 500 -1000 and only saw one comment kind of defending her.

I don’t know if you saw the video I about posted a couple of days ago but a poll with the general population not just the Democratic Party voters had RFK Jr only 1 point behind Biden.

I think with time he will start even up in the polls but his biggest hurdle will be black democrats in the south which is how Hillary and Biden were able to beat Bernie because all they have to do is march out Obama, maybe this time they won’t buy it. And hopefully covidians will start waking up and start to question what the duck did I just inject into my body.

 

[area51puy]

View: https://rumble.com/v2oe20f-krystal-ball-taps-into-msnbc-roots-in-interview-with-rfk-jr.html


View: https://twitter.com/KimIversenShow/status/1658870226690400258?s=20

 

[ThinPicking]

The only thing that's going to reform any of this mess is lawsuits and lots of them. NO one has the right make health care decisions for you. An employer doesn't, a school doesn't, a courthouse doesn't, a public-facing business doesn't. And if they try to, the only recourse is to sue them. 42 U.S. Code § 1983 is a great starting point. Lawyers and politicians are the perpetrators, they're not going to help, they're only going to impart learned helplessness upon you so they can continue their lazy, arrogant, tyrannical ways into the next psyop!

I don't think this would work as intended Mr Rey. For the individuals responsible stand behind legislative instruments that would socialise/collectivise the recourse. If individuals don't get stung, there's no example set. It probably doesn't matter too much who the candidate is at this point. But surely RFKJr would be fitting for the frame. Maybe I'm wrong about this. I have let myself be led up the garden path enough to know better. But do I. Not sure.

A critical mass of people probably have to lobby louder and harder than the corporate/NGO on a single fundamental issue. Perhaps the instruments that personify the corporate. It would probably have to be relentless and go on record. At the point it isn't honoured any response would become fair game. The same thing they've done to you in reverse (we have our own job to do in the UK and it's probably harder here without you, but I won't defer to that).

 

[ThinPicking]

Sick of it.

Excruciating huh, her last words.

"I don't want to get bogged down in this."
"people can judge for themselves."

They did, catch up.

 

[Mossy]

Excruciating huh, her last words.

"I don't want to get bogged down in this."
"people can judge for themselves."

They did, catch up.

"Tyranny is the deliberate removal of nuance." — Albert Maysles

Ever since I heard this quote it's been my litmus test for tyranny. To the degree that someone avoids nuance, that is their tendency towards tyranny.

 

[Pete Rey]

I don't think this would work as intended Mr Rey. For the individuals responsible stand behind legislative instruments that would socialise/collectivise the recourse. If individuals don't get stung, there's no example set. It probably doesn't matter too much who the candidate is at this point. But surely RFKJr would be fitting for the frame. Maybe I'm wrong about this. I have let myself be led up the garden path enough to know better. But do I. Not sure.

A critical mass of people probably have to lobby louder and harder than the corporate/NGO on a single fundamental issue. Perhaps the instruments that personify the corporate. It would probably have to be relentless and go on record. At the point it isn't honoured any response would become fair game. The same thing they've done to you in reverse (we have our own job to do in the UK and it's probably harder here without you, but I won't defer to that).

It's already worked, brother, for those with eyes to see. I personally know people who have won settlements. The system was written so that anyone with an 8th grade reading level could defend their rights against a small town cop right up to the president, as well as any private individual representing a corporation or even just acting in their own capacity. The problem is that such a small percentage of people are taking up the torch that governments and corporations can write a few fat checks and still come out well ahead. When enough people start suing that bankruptcy becomes a real concern for them is when things will change.

Other than that, this is all bread and circuses. Of that I am absolutely certain and see absolutely no reason to hedge my bets. You are wise enough to know better. You see the pattern. Don't be led down the garden path, and don't be one to lead others down it.

 

[nomoreketones]

I don’t know if you saw the video I about posted a couple of days ago but a poll with the general population not just the Democratic Party voters had RFK Jr only 1 point behind Biden.

Call be cynical but I think the better RFK jr. does the more the establishment will do to destroy his reputation and beat him down. If he starts gaining momentum and actually has a chance to win that is when they will start prosecuting his associates and start putting them in prison. Does RFK jr. have the balls to continue moving forward when that happens?

 

[Izzybelle]

Call be cynical but I think the better RFK jr. does the more the establishment will do to destroy his reputation and beat him down. If he starts gaining momentum and actually has a chance to win that is when they will start prosecuting his associates and start putting them in prison. Does RFK jr. have the balls to continue moving forward when that happens?

Personally, I think that's going to be hard to do after people hear him speak as it would arouse too much suspicion and exemplify exactly the kind of corruption he is talking about, but maybe I'm too hopeful. I haven't been exposed to the censorship and dirty tactics as much as many as I rode out the "pandemic" while out of the country, I'm also not on social media much and just recently got on Twitter just to follow RFK Jr, and that was after the incredibly frustrating experience of trying to get Wikipedia to edit their hit-piece on him. I think for me now if anything is called by the mainstream a conspiracy theory then it is definitely worth learning about, and any warning that I get from FB or Twitter trying to dissuade me from content is definitely something that I want to read. Also, I think that's why RFK Jr is increasingly pointing to sources even within the mainstream who have opposed him elsewhere to support his other points. For instance, he recently posted a study on the revolving door between the military and defense contractors written by Elizabeth Warren.

 

[area51puy]

Personally, I think that's going to be hard to do after people hear him speak as it would arouse too much suspicion and exemplify exactly the kind of corruption he is talking about, but maybe I'm too hopeful. I haven't been exposed to the censorship and dirty tactics as much as many as I rode out the "pandemic" while out of the country, I'm also not on social media much and just recently got on Twitter just to follow RFK Jr, and that was after the incredibly frustrating experience of trying to get Wikipedia to edit their hit-piece on him. I think for me now if anything is called by the mainstream a conspiracy theory then it is definitely worth learning about, and any warning that I get from FB or Twitter trying to dissuade me from content is definitely something that I want to read. Also, I think that's why RFK Jr is increasingly pointing to sources even within the mainstream who have opposed him elsewhere to support his other points. For instance, he recently posted a study on the revolving door between the military and defense contractors written by Elizabeth Warren.

Well if anybody knows what can happen when you go up against the deep state and these powerful multi-national corporations would be him seeing what happened to his uncle and father and has spent the 40 years fighting these thugs. So I would think he knows a lot more then your average politician that comes In hoping to make change when they face the realities and power they are up against. So he knows where the bodies are buried and know he’s up against the most powerful people in the world and they will use anything they can to stop him. So if he is willing to put himself on the line I will back him.

 

[Izzybelle]

So if he is willing to put himself on the line I will back him.

Agreed. To me anyway, the media tactics are backfiring, but who knows what else they've got up their sleeve.

 

[nomoreketones]

Agreed. To me anyway, the media tactics are backfiring, but who knows what else they've got up their sleeve.

If you want to see what they have up their sleeve, start with the Durham report. This is the same kind of thing that will be done to RFK jr. and his supporters if he gains too much support.

 

[Izzybelle]

If you want to see what they have up their sleeve, start with the Durham report. This is the same kind of thing that will be done to RFK jr. and his supporters if he gains too much support.

I just read the first part including the conclusions and just for yucks checked out what the pundits on the left are saying about it. Quite interesting.

 

[area51puy]

View: https://youtu.be/caa4odp4n10

 

[ThinPicking]

It's already worked, brother, for those with eyes to see. I personally know people who have won settlements.

Who paid, in time or its proxy? For money isn't the only possible recourse. If individuals aren't being stung or ruined in a very public and frankly humiliating way, round and round we'll probably go.

The system was written so that anyone with an 8th grade reading level could defend their rights against a small town cop right up to the president, as well as any private individual representing a corporation or even just acting in their own capacity. The problem is that such a small percentage of people are taking up the torch that governments and corporations can write a few fat checks and still come out well ahead. When enough people start suing that bankruptcy becomes a real concern for them is when things will change.

But governments (which are corporations) and corporations don't write cheques, people do. I find myself wondering why we're allowing them to be written on behalf of legal frictions and calling it a day. No one seems to learn.

 

[Pete Rey]

Who paid, in time or its proxy? For money isn't the only possible recourse. If individuals aren't being stung or ruined in a very public and frankly humiliating way, round and round we'll probably go.


But governments (which are corporations) and corporations don't write cheques, people do. I find myself wondering why we're allowing them to be written on behalf of legal frictions and calling it a day. No one seems to learn.

Money is the only restitution there is for an individual, only a prosecutor can bring criminal charges. There are steps you can take to force a prosecutor's hand, but ultimately you can't speak for anyone but yourself in a court of law, so things that effect society as a whole are moot. You can, however, sue someone who has violated your civil rights in both an individual AND official capacity, and that is pretty effective leverage.

In my experience with pro se communities there are two camps, one being code pleading which uses the system the way it was designed, and the other being the sovereign citizen type who wish to escape all legal fictions. The latter may be effective at getting certain agencies to leave you alone, but is ultimately always playing defense. The former learns how to play offense.