Restoring gut health after antibiotics

[Jayvee]

I have no idea if this is normal but since doing a small course of antibiotics (Penicillin in small doses for 5 days and 1x 100mg of Minocycline), certain foods (can no longer tolerate milk or coffee) are causing mild digestive issues followed by breathlessness.

These attacks go away if I do bag breathing and/or activated charcoal so I'm assuming this has something to do with C02.

I asked ray and he said "It's likely that the antibiotics caused a disturbance of the bacterial ecology."

Questions is what do I do now?

Are probiotics (d-lactate free) a good option for restoring the gut?

 

[Fexxx]

Mutaflor and Boulardii are the best “probiotics” with no risk for SIBO

 

[Jayvee]

Thanks Fexxx. I will look into them

 

[mostlylurking]

I have no idea if this is normal but since doing a small course of antibiotics (Penicillin in small doses for 5 days and 1x 100mg of Minocycline), certain foods (can no longer tolerate milk or coffee) are causing mild digestive issues followed by breathlessness.

These attacks go away if I do bag breathing and/or activated charcoal so I'm assuming this has something to do with C02.

I asked ray and he said "It's likely that the antibiotics caused a disturbance of the bacterial ecology."

Questions is what do I do now?

Are probiotics (d-lactate free) a good option for restoring the gut?

suggested reading:

Thiamine and the Microbiome - Hormones Matter

Health depends on the 70-100 trillion single-celled organisms that live in our intestines.

www.hormonesmatter.com

Gastrointestinal Disease and Thiamine - Hormones Matter

Modern research has revealed that the GI tract has a very complex relationship with the rest of the body, especially the brain.

www.hormonesmatter.com

Thiamine Acquisition Strategies Impact Metabolism and Competition in the Gut Microbe Bacteroides thetaiotaomicron - PubMed

Thiamine (vitamin B₁) is an essential cofactor for all organisms. Humans primarily acquire thiamine through their diet, and thiamine deficiencies have adverse neurological effects. However, the role gut microbes play in modulating thiamine availability is poorly understood, and little...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"IMPORTANCE Variation in the ability of gut microbes to transport, synthesize, and compete for vitamin B1 (thiamine) is expected to impact the structure and stability of the microbiota, and ultimately this variation may have both direct and indirect effects on human health. Our study identifies the diverse strategies employed by gut Bacteroidetes to acquire thiamine. We demonstrate how the presence or absence of thiamine biosynthesis or transport dramatically affects the abundance of B. thetaiotaomicron in a competitive environment. This study adds further evidence that altering the presence or concentrations of water-soluble vitamins such as thiamine may be an effective method for manipulating gut community composition. In turn, targeted thiamine delivery could be used therapeutically to alter dysbiotic communities linked to disease."

Please note that thiamine is required for oxidative metabolism. Without it, the end product is lactic acid instead of carbon dioxide. A thiamine deficiency causes you to be deficient in carbon dioxide. The fact that increasing your carbon dioxide (via bag breathing) improves your issue might be a clue.

 

[SamYo123]

Whats a

suggested reading:

Thiamine and the Microbiome - Hormones Matter

Health depends on the 70-100 trillion single-celled organisms that live in our intestines.

www.hormonesmatter.com

Gastrointestinal Disease and Thiamine - Hormones Matter

Modern research has revealed that the GI tract has a very complex relationship with the rest of the body, especially the brain.

www.hormonesmatter.com

Thiamine Acquisition Strategies Impact Metabolism and Competition in the Gut Microbe Bacteroides thetaiotaomicron - PubMed

Thiamine (vitamin B₁) is an essential cofactor for all organisms. Humans primarily acquire thiamine through their diet, and thiamine deficiencies have adverse neurological effects. However, the role gut microbes play in modulating thiamine availability is poorly understood, and little...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"IMPORTANCE Variation in the ability of gut microbes to transport, synthesize, and compete for vitamin B1 (thiamine) is expected to impact the structure and stability of the microbiota, and ultimately this variation may have both direct and indirect effects on human health. Our study identifies the diverse strategies employed by gut Bacteroidetes to acquire thiamine. We demonstrate how the presence or absence of thiamine biosynthesis or transport dramatically affects the abundance of B. thetaiotaomicron in a competitive environment. This study adds further evidence that altering the presence or concentrations of water-soluble vitamins such as thiamine may be an effective method for manipulating gut community composition. In turn, targeted thiamine delivery could be used therapeutically to alter dysbiotic communities linked to disease."

Please note that thiamine is required for oxidative metabolism. Without it, the end product is lactic acid instead of carbon dioxide. A thiamine deficiency causes you to be deficient in carbon dioxide. The fact that increasing your carbon dioxide (via bag breathing) improves your issue might be a clue.

whats good thiamine supplment?

 

[Perry Staltic]

Whats a

whats good thiamine supplment?

The bolded are easily supplemented. Find what these like to eat and help them out

Table 1​

Vitamin B family producing bacteria.

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Vitamins​	Forms​	Bacteria​	References​
B1​	Thiamin pyrophosphate (TPP)​	Bacteroides fragilis Prevotella copri Clostridium difficile Lactobacillus casei Lactobacillus curvatus Lactobacillus plantarum Ruminococcus lactaris Bifidobacterium infantis Bifidobacterium bifidum Fusobacterium varium​

Metabolism of Dietary and Microbial Vitamin B Family in the Regulation of Host Immunity

Vitamins are micronutrients that have physiological effects on various biological responses, including host immunity. Therefore, vitamin deficiency leads to increased risk of developing infectious, allergic, and inflammatory diseases. Since B vitamins ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[liam183]

Fermented foods. Natto and kraut are good.

 

[mostlylurking]

Whats a

whats good thiamine supplment?

I use thiamine hcl pure powder from bulksupplements.com.

 

[dogtrainer]

Probiotics helped me considerably. I made yogurt out of them. You can read my post history. D lactate free by custom probiotics.

 

[Jayvee]

Probiotics helped me considerably. I made yogurt out of them. You can read my post history. D lactate free by custom probiotics.

Thanks @dogtrainer it was actually your thread that made me consider the d lactate probiotics. At the moment I'm working on my diet but I'm looking at using them in the future.