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Anna Khachiyan and Dasha Neskrasova of the Red Scare Podcast have recently learned about Ray Peat and on their most recent episode ponder whether Peatarianism implies we should question everything in the societal detritus thats taken for granted as fact and 'real'.
 

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Well yeah, which is also the same reason why anybody who's seriously into Peat, conspiracy stuff, anything non mainstream, should seriously question any narrative about capitalism, "western exceptionalism", and China.

One thing that prevents me from identifying with leftists is that they seem to compartmentalize their "analysis" only to the realm of geopolitics, and never anything else, so it's good to see that some of them aren't like that.
 

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Well yeah, which is also the same reason why anybody who's seriously into Peat, conspiracy stuff, anything non mainstream, should seriously question any narrative about capitalism, "western exceptionalism", and China.

One thing that prevents me from identifying with leftists is that they seem to compartmentalize their "analysis" only to the realm of geopolitics, and never anything else, so it's good to see that some of them aren't like that.
I have serious issues with leftist views who show this “capitalistic” system as an example why it sucks. We don’t have capitalism at all. The Communist manifesto has Central Banks as a core principle to centrally control money and credit. We have this system in place for 100+ years. How is this capitalism when a central body controls 50+ percent of each transaction and has a full control over credit ( economic expansion and contraction) ? Can anyone explain to me ??

RP views on Stalin and communism is extremely hard for me to understand. Why ignore that capitalism does not exist in the western world and what we see is another form of corporate fascism/socialism.

All systems currently in place are corrupt to the core and they are created and forced upon the masses by the same group of central planners. Those differences in the systems that are largly the same thing and are used to perpetuate the illusion of the west vs east competition/war , which in turn is used to control perception. aka 1984
 

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I have serious issues with leftist views who show this “capitalistic” system as an example why it sucks. We don’t have capitalism at all. The Communist manifesto has Central Banks as a core principle to centrally control money and credit. We have this system in place for 100+ years. How is this capitalism when a central body controls 50+ percent of each transaction and has a full control over credit ( economic expansion and contraction) ? Can anyone explain to me ??

RP views on Stalin and communism is extremely hard for me to understand. Why ignore that capitalism does not exist in the western world and what we see is another form of corporate fascism/socialism.

All systems currently in place are corrupt to the core and they are created and forced upon the masses by the same group of central planners. Those differences in the systems that are largly the same thing and are used to perpetuate the illusion of the west vs east competition/war , which in turn is used to control perception. aka 1984
Very true and important to point out. Labelling this paradigm capitalism and then demonising it under that label is a lie.

Aside from modern money mechanics there's also the integration of corporate and state. Capitalism could only be so with clear separation between the two enshrined in legislation.

It could be argued that party political representation is opposed to the definition. Certainly if political parties were illegal and there was only independent representation it would be harder for corporates to corrupt the legislature.
 

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RP views on Stalin and communism is extremely hard for me to understand. Why ignore that capitalism does not exist in the western world and what we see is another form of corporate fascism/socialism.
What are RP's views on Stalin and communism? Do you have an article to link to?
 

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I have serious issues with leftist views who show this “capitalistic” system as an example why it sucks. We don’t have capitalism at all. The Communist manifesto has Central Banks as a core principle to centrally control money and credit. We have this system in place for 100+ years. How is this capitalism when a central body controls 50+ percent of each transaction and has a full control over credit ( economic expansion and contraction) ? Can anyone explain to me ??

RP views on Stalin and communism is extremely hard for me to understand. Why ignore that capitalism does not exist in the western world and what we see is another form of corporate fascism/socialism.

All systems currently in place are corrupt to the core and they are created and forced upon the masses by the same group of central planners. Those differences in the systems that are largly the same thing and are used to perpetuate the illusion of the west vs east competition/war , which in turn is used to control perception. aka 1984
It is Capitalism, our system is dominated by the movement of Capital rather than other concerns. The problem is that people have been confused over the difference between Banking ( Loan Capital ) and Industrial Capital. The Nazis understood this very clearly. Gottfried's Feder Manifesto on the Abolishment of Interest Slavery uses the example of Krupp Steel vs the Rothschild's. Krupp Steel had amassed Capital as a result of it's productive capabilities and grew in a natural fashion. The Rothschild Fortune on the other hand grew wildly and without any productive output at all, other than efficiently parasitizing on the back of productive Labor.

The two examples are very different, but both are technically Capitalism. Only National Socialism worked to preserve Industry while rooting out parasitic Capitalism and domination by Usury. But we are not allowed to discuss them positively because the Holocaust Lie was invented and believed.
 

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It is Capitalism, our system is dominated by the movement of Capital rather than other concerns. The problem is that people have been confused over the difference between Banking ( Loan Capital ) and Industrial Capital. The Nazis understood this very clearly. Gottfried's Feder Manifesto on the Abolishment of Interest Slavery uses the example of Krupp Steel vs the Rothschild's. Krupp Steel had amassed Capital as a result of it's productive capabilities and grew in a natural fashion. The Rothschild Fortune on the other hand grew wildly and without any productive output at all, other than efficiently parasitizing on the back of productive Labor.

The two examples are very different, but both are technically Capitalism. Only National Socialism worked to preserve Industry while rooting out parasitic Capitalism and domination by Usury. But we are not allowed to discuss them positively because the Holocaust Lie was invented and believed.
I think we have a difference in the understanding of the term capitalism.

Capitalism =equals= free markets, that's the main essence of the term ; there are NO free markets at the moment. Everything is either completely run by the central banks or it is being manipulated as per the banks wish for short term profit.

This is as far from a free market capital system as anything. They want and already have full monopoly over the market for money and credit. A major and obvious flaw at the very core of the system that anyone who dares to talk about it openly usually dies quickly. Money should come from the markets themselves , not from a central body of control.

Many leftists don't talk about this flaw as it is something they believe in - central control of EVERYTHING through a central bank. How can anyone argue this is capitalism?
 

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Ray Peat is where the left should be, Marx and the like only go back to resources like food, water and shelter, they stop here, Ray continues analysing said resources and there functionality down to the bioenergetic level, achieving biological coherency is the goal and should become the one and only human right?
Most hoarding or excessive capital/greed is likely incoherent bioenergetic metabolism at a cellular level crystallising at the surface behavioural level, if we can charge their overall internal biological system toward coherent metabolic flow the outward pathology should cease.
My guess is excessive hoarding is likely present in other mammals who are slightly metabolically incoherent.

Ray often said verbosity is the first sign of psychopathology, the mania on all sides left and right we see now is verbosity, addiction to words, a condensed rigid stream of consciousness looking for dopamine hits from words like primates eating nuts but for the ears, they have become like pavlovian dogs drooling waiting for the next youtube lefty or righty making sounds that stimulate dopamine, said sounds are conditioned with rewards via past indoctrination, this is caused by incoherent brain tissue glucose utilisation, coherent use of glucose within the brain charges it like a battery, it allows for a more broader perception, it allows words to be visualised and the processes they imply measured with real world behaviour, they parrot words that trigger, its a pleasure/pain dialectic addiction of sorts, when the left here someone with right leaning views speak they become adrenalised, the adrenaline and dopamine pathways are the same.

The ruling class are high serotonin, tryptophan hydroxylase is likely elevated in their brain tissues, just like psychopaths, many on the "new left" are likely psychotic also, they are primed by their structure and bioenergetic state to veer into fascism, fascism being a stream of consciousness likely correlating with tryptophan hydroxylase, this is why you ignore the words and take note of the overall persona, high serotonergic folks are likely to start killing once the context arises, the authoritarian fascist persona was on display during covid, their words implied they were all caring humanitarians........

We need to stop equating excessive sounds from the mouth as a sign of intelligence, verbosity is not verbal intelligence, it's also good to remember not understanding someone does not make them verbose.
 

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Ray Peat is where the left should be, Marx and the like only go back to resources like food, water and shelter, they stop here, Ray continues analysing said resources and there functionality down to the bioenergetic level, achieving biological coherency is the goal and should become the one and only human right?
Most hoarding or excessive capital/greed is likely incoherent bioenergetic metabolism at a cellular level crystallising at the surface behavioural level, if we can charge their overall internal biological system toward coherent metabolic flow the outward pathology should cease.
My guess is excessive hoarding is likely present in other mammals who are slightly metabolically incoherent.

Ray often said verbosity is the first sign of psychopathology, the mania on all sides left and right we see now is verbosity, addiction to words, a condensed rigid stream of consciousness looking for dopamine hits from words like primates eating nuts but for the ears, they have become like pavlovian dogs drooling waiting for the next youtube lefty or righty making sounds that stimulate dopamine, said sounds are conditioned with rewards via past indoctrination, this is caused by incoherent brain tissue glucose utilisation, coherent use of glucose within the brain charges it like a battery, it allows for a more broader perception, it allows words to be visualised and the processes they imply measured with real world behaviour, they parrot words that trigger, its a pleasure/pain dialectic addiction of sorts, when the left here someone with right leaning views speak they become adrenalised, the adrenaline and dopamine pathways are the same.

The ruling class are high serotonin, tryptophan hydroxylase is likely elevated in their brain tissues, just like psychopaths, many on the "new left" are likely psychotic also, they are primed by their structure and bioenergetic state to veer into fascism, fascism being a stream of consciousness likely correlating with tryptophan hydroxylase, this is why you ignore the words and take note of the overall persona, high serotonergic folks are likely to start killing once the context arises, the authoritarian fascist persona was on display during covid, their words implied they were all caring humanitarians........

We need to stop equating excessive sounds from the mouth as a sign of intelligence, verbosity is not verbal intelligence, it's also good to remember not understanding someone does not make them verbose.
After verbosity what is the next sign of psychopathology?
 

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My guess is excessive hoarding is likely present in other mammals who are slightly metabolically incoherent.

Yep, studies with burrowing rodents show that stressing them out causes them to hoard food/nuts/grains, BUT then avoid eating it. It's like they fall into a state where they assume the world will progressively become worse as time goes by and as such no matter how much they hoard they feel it is never going to be enough, so they keep hoarding and may even become emaciated from refusing to eat their supplies.
As far as verbosity - could not agree more. It is one of the unmistakable signs of high serotonin and high estrogen. There is even a medical term for it - logorrhea - i.e. verbal "diarrhea" and is very common in postmenopausal women and older males (Peat said the latter can produce even more estrogen than women when old/stressed) or younger females taking estrogen therapy. Kamala Harris is a great example from politics - overloads you with words but does not really say anything coherent. In all fairness, it is not just her, most of the political class seems to exhibit such symptoms.

Other signs of low brain energy, pathology, etc are excessive deductive reasoning, aggression, narcissism, sadism, masochism, anhedonia, inability to acknowledge/register novelty, etc.
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After verbosity what is the next sign of psychopathology?
It's vast but @haidut's quote covers a few, "Other signs of low brain energy, pathology, etc are excessive deductive reasoning, aggression, narcissism, sadism, masochism, anhedonia, inability to acknowledge/register novelty, etc".
 

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Yep, studies with burrowing rodents show that stressing them out causes them to hoard food/nuts/grains, BUT then avoid eating it. It's like they fall into a state where they assume the world will progressively become worse as time goes by and as such no matter how much they hoard they feel it is never going to be enough, so they keep hoarding and may even become emaciated from refusing to eat their supplies.
As far as verbosity - could not agree more. It is one of the unmistakable signs of high serotonin and high estrogen. There is even a medical term for it - logorrhea - i.e. verbal "diarrhea" and is very common in postmenopausal women and older males (Peat said the latter can produce even more estrogen than women when old/stressed) or younger females taking estrogen therapy. Kamala Harris is a great example from politics - overloads you with words but does not really say anything coherent. In all fairness, it is not just her, most of the political class seems to exhibit such symptoms.

Other signs of low brain energy, pathology, etc are excessive deductive reasoning, aggression, narcissism, sadism, masochism, anhedonia, inability to acknowledge/register novelty, etc.
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The ruling class mimic rodent behaviour yet believe they are elite, the word spells are the problem, people seem to be breaking out of the spell, they are seeing the actions, the primal like ruling/rodent class have so much hoarded they can't hide it anymore, their like a rodent that can't get into its nest because the entrance is blocked with overflows of food, it naturally attracts enemies at this point.
 

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This way of pathologising them could be quite a powerful counter-message if it isn't one already. It's peaty and could appeal to people without a spiritual/theological disposition. Not to mention it's humiliating.
 

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I think we have a difference in the understanding of the term capitalism.

Capitalism =equals= free markets, that's the main essence of the term ; there are NO free markets at the moment. Everything is either completely run by the central banks or it is being manipulated as per the banks wish for short term profit.

This is as far from a free market capital system as anything. They want and already have full monopoly over the market for money and credit. A major and obvious flaw at the very core of the system that anyone who dares to talk about it openly usually dies quickly. Money should come from the markets themselves , not from a central body of control.

Many leftists don't talk about this flaw as it is something they believe in - central control of EVERYTHING through a central bank. How can anyone argue this is capitalism?
You are on the right track but there are some important things to clarify.

1. Private Banks control the Behavior of the Central Bank, rather than the other way around. It would be accurate to say that the Central Bank is a Government-Endorsed tool of the Private Banking Cartel.

2. Private Bank Loan activity essentially determines our Money Supply. New Loans create Deposits. So our entire Economy is directed per the wishes of the Banking Cartel at Usury - leaving us essentially permanently enslaved to them via Interest.

3. The problem is not necessarily Central Control, you could have things organized Centrally and be in the interests of the Folk. The problem is that Parasites are using centralized Control for their own benefit. But even before a Central Bank, Banks used Usury and Manipulation to direct Governments to bend to their desires. See the History of the Rothschilds.
 

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3. The problem is not necessarily Central Control, you could have things organized Centrally and be in the interests of the Folk. The problem is that Parasites are using centralized Control for their own benefit. But even before a Central Bank, Banks used Usury and Manipulation to direct Governments to bend to their desires. See the History of the Rothschilds.
Power gives birth to corruption. Being able to control the credit cycle is an immense power that I believe must not exist at all. Psychopaths will do everything they can do to use it or corrupt it if it does. Money that comes from the market would be so much better. But I think this is just a wishful thinking.
 

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Power gives birth to corruption. Being able to control the credit cycle is an immense power that I believe must not exist at all. Psychopaths will do everything they can do to use it or corrupt it if it does. Money that comes from the market would be so much better. But I think this is just a wishful thinking.
I completely understand your point of view. The problem is that the people who promote your line of thinking either ignore or don't understand how Money is created.

The Central Bank doesn't make it. The Central Bank can create Digital Reserves and Cash. But these are a small percentage of the entire Money Supply. Most of our Money is in the form of Demand Deposits ( think of the number you see in your Bank Account ). These are created when Private Banks make new Loans. Private Banks use Reserves from the Central Bank but the amount they actually need is extremely small because of Fractional Reserve practices and the way the system works.

So what is the point I'm trying to make? The "Market" does make the Money. It's not the Government or a Central Authority doing it, but a Parasitic Cartel of Private Banks that manipulate the entire economy to their whim via Usury. So the situation is as bad as you think, or worse, but the focus is on the wrong parties.
 

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but the amount they actually need is extremely small because of Fractional Reserve practices

...and since late 2020 I think even the fractional reserve requirement has been suspended, at least in the US.
"...The Fed also eliminated banks’ reserve requirement—the percent of deposits that banks must hold as reserves to meet cash demand..."

So, as crazy as it may sound, there is currently no limit on how much "money" a private bank can create. That (fractional reserve) limit was not really an impediment when it was there, but even that pretense has been dropped by the banking cartel since the "pandemic" started.
 

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