Recursive Ray Peat Is *Coming Soon*

[bradley]

Dear followers of On the Back of a Tiger:

We just picked up the mugs from the printers. They'll first be going to our Kickstarter backers who opted for them. If there's enough demand we'll add them to a little web store along with other fun things.

 

[CoolTweetPete]

Superb. Hope there's a surplus. And can't wait for the film!

 

[damngoodcoffee]

 

[whodathunkit]

How cute! I'll def. buy one. Please advise when they're available for public consump.

 

[jitsmonkey]

#need!

 

[Such_Saturation]

LOL they should make those in red-blue 3D

 

[Sheik]

Amazing.

 

[jaguar43]

I thin Ray Peat is anti-recursive because he is anti-chomsky.

 

[Such_Saturation]

I thin Ray Peat is anti-recursive because he is anti-chomsky.

Now we can weasel out of the KS rewards and still look good

 

[jaguar43]

Now we can weasel out of the KS rewards and still look good

Whats KS ?

 

[Such_Saturation]

Whats KS ?

The thing that gave us the documentary

 

[barefooter]

In order to understand Ray Peat, you must first understand Ray Peat.

 

[tara]

I thin Ray Peat is anti-recursive because he is anti-chomsky.

I think Peat disagrees with Chomsky about some particular linguistic ideas. I haven't heard that he dislikes him generally. From the things I've read by Chomsky (not linguistics), they have some similarities, in my mind. Both tend to take an anti-authoritarian approach (skeptical of both big business control and government control and discourse), will take the time and effort to delve meticulously into the evidence under the dominant spin, and treat their readers with the respect of saying (more or less) here is the reality according to this evidence - what you do with it is up to you.

 

[jaguar43]

I think Peat disagrees with Chomsky about some particular linguistic ideas. I haven't heard that he dislikes him generally. From the things I've read by Chomsky (not linguistics), they have some similarities, in my mind. Both tend to take an anti-authoritarian approach (skeptical of both big business control and government control and discourse), will take the time and effort to delve meticulously into the evidence under the dominant spin, and treat their readers with the respect of saying (more or less) here is the reality according to this evidence - what you do with it is up to you.

Although Bob Altemeyer's scale mainly identified right-wing, conservative authoritarians, he indicated that there could be left-wing authoritarians, too. Noam Chomsky is identified with left-wing political views, but his views of genetic determinism and a “nativist” view of language learning, and his anti-empiricist identification of himself as a philosophical Rationalist, have a great correspondence to the authoritarian character - Ray Peat

 

[tara]

Although Bob Altemeyer's scale mainly identified right-wing, conservative authoritarians, he indicated that there could be left-wing authoritarians, too. Noam Chomsky is identified with left-wing political views, but his views of genetic determinism and a “nativist” view of language learning, and his anti-empiricist identification of himself as a philosophical Rationalist, have a great correspondence to the authoritarian character - Ray Peat

I hadn't seen that one.
I agree that there can be left-wing authoritarian approaches as well as right-wing ones. I wasn't aware of that part of Chomsky's self-identification as philosophical Rationalist. I was going by reading some of his material on various political subjects.

 

[marikay]

The only thing I tend to agree with Chomsky on is that human beings seem to have a built-in preference for form over content. I first saw this in my fifth grade science contest (where I accidentally took first place) and have seen evidence of this pretty often ever since then. But he is way off on the genetic determinism and the like.

 

[ecstatichamster]

The only thing I tend to agree with Chomsky on is that human beings seem to have a built-in preference for form over content. I first saw this in my fifth grade science contest (where I accidentally took first place) and have seen evidence of this pretty often ever since then. But he is way off on the genetic determinism and the like.

that's a Big Idea though.

 

[marikay]

that's a Big Idea though.

true (though it is something a fifth grader can figure out:)

 

[burtlancast]

Chomsky is a notorious defender of the official 911 story, while Ray is on record as affirming "nothing the government has said about 911 makes sense".

*Bracing for Narouz*

 

[tara]

He has expressed other ideas I think are important and look to me more like exposing and criticising, rather than reinforcing, authoritarianism:

"The ability to ignore unwanted facts is one of the prerogatives of unchallenged power. Closely related is the right to radically revise history."

"It’s very important for institutions of concentrated power to keep people alone and isolated: that way they’re ineffective, they can’t defend themselves against indoctrination, they can’t even figure out what they think."

"That’s the standard technique of privatization: defund, make sure things don’t work, people get angry, you hand it over to private capital."

Noam Chomsky Quotes

I can't remember the full quote, but he has also talked about the ways society is organised to privatise wealth and profit, and socialise risk and cost.