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Ray Peat's Response For Inguinal Hernia. Need To Know How To Apply

Discussion in 'Ask For Help or Advice' started by DevilHands, May 14, 2018.

  1. DevilHands

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    Hi guys, as some of you might know I had a case of Inguinal Hernia to which I am trying to cure through an orthomolecular doctor. Thing is it doesnt seem to be working... although the doctor told me that it needs more time.

    I decided to ask Dr. Peat and see if he would know anything about it and this is his response.

    "The balance of the hormones, especially steroids, is the most important factor in hernias or organ prolapse or other connective tissue weakness. Too much cortisol creates a catabolic condition, weakening fascia, ligaments, muscles, etc., and the constructive hormones are pregnenolone, DHEA, testosterone, and vitamin D. Vitamin D, especially when the diet contains an abundance of calcium, lowers the parathyroid hormone, which is catabolic. When the PTH is high (because of high dietary phosphate and/or low calcium and vitamin D), muscles and tendons are weakened."

    Thing is... before I got the Hernia, I was following a pretty Peatish diet. Yes... my calcium is probably high? I was drinking a liter of it each day. I also took Vit D supplements. I am not sure if my Vit D is low, although I am in a tropical country. Originally, I was following a Peatish diet because of hair loss... now though it seems it could have actually caused my Hernia with Dr. Peat's response about calcium.

    With his response does it mean I need to take pregnenolone, DHEA, testosterone and vit D all at the same time?
     
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    What is your PTH levels now??
     
  3. goodandevil

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    Ive had success rebuilding that tissue with dht ... coming from terminally bad abdominopelvic function.
     
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    Id recommend vitamin d, u can take a once weekly dose, pregnenolone, testosterone, and dht, along with glute bridges and lunges especially, also declije ab bench, and of course plenty of protein intake. I mix 4 scoops of collagen into a half gallon of skim milk with fructose. 100 grams of protein.
     
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    What are your body stats?

    What were you doing to cause the hernia? Any ideas?
     
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    Hi, as of now I don't know about my PTH levels. Last thyroid check was I think around 3 years ago although they seem to be normal...

    Goodnevil- I am a little bit scared of DHT because I do have problems with my hair...... my orthomolecular doctor is trying to fix my issue by giving me lots of vitamin C... from what I can tell Vitamin C can be use for collager repair...

    Luckytype- Around 150lbs, 5'7. I used to be fairly ripped, but stopped because I was trying to fix my hair. It was kinda recent that I started to work out again. It was sometime in Feb where I felt the hernia, to be frank I don't know how it happened. It's like when I just woke up I felt a dull pain in my groin that never went away. Suspect could be my workout (I was doing the body beast video almost every night) but I don't remember having that pain while I was working out.
     
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    Check out whay ray says about synthetic vitamin c ... it's not good, because of toxic metal catalysts.
     
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    Yea... I know Ray does like supplements in general. I am however desperate to have this fixed. My hernia could be caused by trying to follow a Peatish diet probably without knowing I made a mistake somewhere.

    I just feel like I need someone who can advice me as which is why I am trusting this "as of the moment" to an orthomolecular doctor since its easier to access him. Recently, he seems to have up his dosage for natural pain relievers that seems to be helping... I think....while trying to fix my issue. I am still observing though as I just got the new set of supplements yesterday.

    I will still follow some peatish guidelines like avoiding PUFA, but I don't consume milk and carrot salad as much as I use to. I'll also try to consume more gelatin.

    If this doesn't work then yea... I guess I'll look into those constructive hormones Dr. Peat has talked about.....
     
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    @DevilHands

    Avoid cold foods and drinks. esp. raw food like salad.

    Remedies for IH [1] Yoga (Viparita Karani) [2] TCM (Bu Zhong Yi Qi Tang) [3] Hawthorn (or Hawthornia, HernEase - combo herb formulations)

    Source: Holistic Remedy For Inguinal Hernia

    More info:
    What Traditional Chinese Medicine Has To Say About Hernias
    Famous Chinese Formula (6): HernEase (Wuhui Yushan)

    Yoga posture (Viparita Karani) : Viparitakarini - Google Search

    TCM - Bu Zhong Yi Qi Tang - Google Search

    (take a snapshot of any of the images above and show it to a shop assistant in TCM retail outlet)

    Hawthornia: Hawthornia - chinese medicine for hernia - Google Search
     
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    I can't see how you concluded high dietary calcium could have caused your hernia.

    Regarding Ray Peat's remarks, I read that he is saying the parathyroid hormone is catabolic, not that high calcium in the diet was catabolic.
    He is saying helpful hormones would be pregnenolone, DHEA, testosertone and vitamin D.
    And that if your diet is high in calcium it will be helpful in lowering parathyroid hormone.

    But, all that refers to the mechanism that got you the hernia.
    I don't think you can reverse it by diet, but I could be wrong.
     
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    After my orthomolecular doctor upped my dose of Vitamins and Minerals and I still haven't found the results I've been looking for. It seems the orthomolecular adviser is clueless as I am why the dull pain isn't exactly going away. I decided to ask Dr. Peat again since I feel like I am back to zero. I ask him if his remarks means its curable or just a mechanism on how I got it and this was his reply.

    "I think your orthomolecular doctor is right, that it’s curable, but it involves more than vitamins and minerals. Depending on its extent, it sometimes doesn’t take long to recover. Have you had blood tests for vitamin D and hormones? "

    Guys, I just want to say Dr. Peat has a heart of gold. I mean I haven't even given him any money or anything and he was responding me for his time. I would actually like to make a donation on my next reply but I don't know how. I wonder if his email is connected to his paypal acct? Is there a way of finding out?

    I am going for a blood test a couple of days, but I am not quite sure what he meant by test for hormones. Does it mean exactly "pregnenolone, DHEA, testosterone"? The constructive hormones he was talking about?
     
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    Just send him via paypal to raypeatsnewsletter@gmail.com with a note of thanks or whatever you wish to say.
     
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    Would Hawthornia actually work for inguinal hernia?

    Also, if one fixes hormone problems as Ray Peat suggests, would the body pull the intestine back to its original position by itself? If the body is not able to do this by itself then that's a problem..
     
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    No harm trying the herbal formulation out ... I would give it a try.
     
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    Already tried one bottle of Hawthornia before. Did not work.
     
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    I assume that depends on how far it's broken out of it's original position. I imagine that if it's just a little, there's a chance it might get itself back, but if it's got far out it wouldn't.
    I think Reams reckoned with hernias one should get biochemistry in line first, then have surgery.
     
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    @DevilHands sorry my man but surgery is probably the only thing that's going to fix that. It's really not a big deal of a surgery, Ive seen many preformed (I work in surgery).

    I understand the rationale that if hormones were in line there could be a POSSIBILITY the body COULD heal itself, but you must realize that the pain the tear causes, the anxiety you feel because of dealing with it, and the internal distress it's causing on your digestive tract are all things that will prevent you from ever getting your hormones balanced and self sustaining due to the stress it's inducing.

    I wouldn't waste my time, youth, and money on all the ***t short of surgery. It will literally take them longer to sedate you with the anesthesia than the actual surgical procedure will take. You're looking at 1 1/2 to 2 hours of your life from the time they wheel you from pre op to the surgical suite and back to pacu to fix the problem. Probably 4 weeks to be fully mobile and maybe 3-4 months before your sutures are dissolved by your body. Plus it sounds like your injury is relatively small so they should be able to fix you laprascopically so you won't have big nasty scars, probably 3 insicions a half inch each.
     
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    Hi Jon, thanks for your advice. All these time actually my hernia diagnosis is not confirmed. The first surgeon I went to asked for an ultrasound but the results came as negative. The doctor however told me that the hernia is possibly small so it didn't show up. Additionally he isnt going to do surgery since its not confirmed.
    I've went to different doctors to check for different opinions, so far on physical exam. All told me that I have no hernia.

    The last doc I went to told me I most likely have a strain muscle in that area and prescribe me pain relievers.

    I am now looking into an angle that it's probably sports hernia/gilmore's groin. I am looking for a specialist that knows how to diagnose this as such I am planning to go to a sports medicine doctor in a couple of weeks.

    This is seriously a pain to deal with! No decent surgeon is going to operate on me since they can't see it. There's also the possibility of an occult/hidden hernia but I just don't know. So far all specialist I went to didn't give me that possibility.
     
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    I'm sorry to hear that :( they didn't want to do an MRI? An MRI with contrast would probably showbsomething if it's there. What a bummer, I hope you get it fixed! I'll ask around at work for you :) I work in a sports Medici e clinic with hard tissue and soft tissue specialists so I can pick their brains alittle.
     
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    The doctors so far I've went to haven't suggested an MRI. I don't know why, its probably the cost but hell if its going to give me a diagnosis I am willing to pay that. So far however all the doctors I went to don't know the term "Sports Hernia". Which is why I am now looking for a doctor that's into sports medicine as maybe they know about it and can confirm it for me.

    Thing is though, as far as I know this happens mostly to athletes. I am not one, but I love lifting weights before this happened to me. I was following actually a work out video called "Body Beast" and there might have been some kicks in there that could have possibly triggered it. I am just speculating. I really don't know how I got it, its just that when I woke up in the morning the pain is suddenly there.

    Thank you very much!! Maybe like if there's some kind of self check that can confirm my diagnosis and how can I treat it. I currently live in the Philippines, which is why it makes it even harder since all the clinics I found online are in the US.
     
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