Ray Peat On The USA Being Inside The Mossad

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No he doesn’t, haidut is just a member here. He’s not the admin. If you feel like the comment is out of place, report it for moderation, don’t tag haidut.
Tagging him is appropriate. The "out of place"comment emanates from conversations he and Danny Roddy had on YouTube.
 

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Tagging him is appropriate. The "out of place"comment emanates from conversations he and Danny Roddy had on YouTube.

No it isn’t. You’ve tagged him several times already. Georgi and Danny have every right to discuss and criticize Israeli policies. It’s turned into a fascist country. Plenty of amazing people and fascinating Jewish culture, but we are allowed to talk about it and it isn’t antisemitism. Georgi is not responsible for the discussion that takes place here.
 

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No it isn’t. You’ve tagged him several times already. Georgi and Danny have every right to discuss and criticize Israeli policies. It’s turned into a fascist country. Plenty of amazing people and fascinating Jewish culture, but we are allowed to talk about it and it isn’t antisemitism. Georgi is not responsible for the discussion that takes place here.
No it isn’t. You’ve tagged him several times already. Georgi and Danny have every right to discuss and criticize Israeli policies. It’s turned into a fascist country. Plenty of amazing people and fascinating Jewish culture, but we are allowed to talk about it and it isn’t antisemitism. Georgi is not responsible for the discussion that takes place here.
@michael94 this forum is about Dr. Peat's science. Your Antisemitic remark is unwelcome. Take it elsewhere. @haidut
Why do you keep tagging haidut, he’s got nothing to do with these comments?
No it isn’t. You’ve tagged him several times already. Georgi and Danny have every right to discuss and criticize Israeli policies. It’s turned into a fascist country. Plenty of amazing people and fascinating Jewish culture, but we are allowed to talk about it and it isn’t antisemitism. Georgi is not responsible for the discussion that takes place here.
I did not ask for your views on Israel. What I've said many times is that michael94s comments were antisemitic and @haidut should be made aware of it
 
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I did not ask for your views on Israel. What I've said many times is that michael94s comments were antisemitic and @haidut should be aware of it.

You’re making no sense.
 

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@michael94 this forum is about Dr. Peat's science.

It‘s posted in the forum section called „Political Talk, Alternative World Theories“.

Tagging him is appropriate. The "out of place"comment emanates from conversations he and Danny Roddy had on YouTube.

I don‘t understand what are you trying to achieve with this? That Georgi stops talking about certain topics on youtube because strangers could write an opinion which you don‘t agree with on a public internet forum? I don‘t get it......
 

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It‘s posted in the forum section called „Political Talk, Alternative World Theories“.



I don‘t understand what are you trying to achieve with this? That Georgi stops talking about certain topics on youtube because strangers could write an opinion which you don‘t agree with on a public internet forum? I don‘t get it......
You’re making no sense.
You’re making no sense.
Michael94's comments are Antisemitic. Can't get clearer than that.
 

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Michael94's comments are Antisemitic. Can't get clearer than that.

They are but what's unclear is why you're tagging haidut instead of reporting the post to forum mods if it bothers you
 

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Michael94's comments are Antisemitic. Can't get clearer than that.

They are. I condemn that too as I’ve made that clear above.
But let’s have free speech here anyway. Ive we abject or condemn certain worldviews, let’s say as much and engage in arguments instead of censorship.
If, like Michael, someone isn’t willing to reconsider his position, so be it, but Akt least the Exchange of stances is there to be read by outsiders
 

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No it isn’t. You’ve tagged him several times already. Georgi and Danny have every right to discuss and criticize Israeli policies. It’s turned into a fascist country. Plenty of amazing people and fascinating Jewish culture, but we are allowed to talk about it and it isn’t antisemitism. Georgi is not responsible for the discussion that takes place here.
+1 and +1 to @LeeLemonoil

Now I understand why someone would shut his forum, it can be hard to continue to put effort into, depending on his perception...
Some people should be more reasonable and cautious before trying to draw attention from Peat or Georgi

I hope Roddy and Charlie is handling with tranquility some reactions here
 
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+1 and +1 to @LeeLemonoil

Now I understand why someone would shut his forum, it can be hard to continue to put effort into, depending on his perception...
Some people should be more reasonable and cautious before trying to draw attention from Peat or Georgi

I hope Roddy is handling with tranquility some reactions here

Thankfully I think Danny doesn't care much what happens on RPF and Ray is not associated at all with this forum.
 

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“An anti-Semite used to mean a man who hated Jews. Now it means a man who is hated by Jews”. -Joseph Sobran

Are you jewish, OldMan?

I don’t get that citation, it’s bollocks. Why does it matter if OldMan was jewish or not? Are only jews entitled to call out baseless anti-Semitic crap?
 

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They are. I condemn that too as I’ve made that clear above.
But let’s have free speech here anyway. Ive we abject or condemn certain worldviews, let’s say as much and engage in arguments instead of censorship.
If, like Michael, someone isn’t willing to reconsider his position, so be it, but Akt least the Exchange of stances is there to be read by outsiders
To be clear, I said Jews are a subversive force. This is considered anti-semitic, but people also associate the term anti-semitism with wanting to genocide Jews in another Holocaust, or something like that. So it's a loaded term.

Subversive doesn't necessarily mean a bad thing, maybe one does not like certain things about the Western world, and prefers fractional reserve banking, loan capital control of labor, neo-liberal economics in general, pornography, media pushing a divisive agenda, fun military excursions in the middle east, mercenary lawyers etc. In this way the subversiveness could be considered a positive.
 

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To be clear, I said Jews are a subversive force. This is considered anti-semitic, but people also associate the term anti-semitism with wanting to genocide Jews in another Holocaust, or something like that. So it's a loaded term.

Subversive doesn't necessarily mean a bad thing, maybe one does not like certain things about the Western world, and prefers fractional reserve banking, loan capital control of labor, neo-liberal economics in general, pornography, media pushing a divisive agenda, fun military excursions in the middle east, mercenary lawyers etc. In this way the subversiveness could be considered a positive.

I understood the nuance of your comment. Even if I don't necessarily agree with your position, you have the right to your opinion and nobody should be censored, unless they actively wish harm or insult other people. Norman Finkelstein, himself a jew, has spent decades denouncing the way the Holocaust is used to control discourse and shame people into shutting up.
 

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I understood the nuance of your comment. Even if I don't necessarily agree with your position, you have the right to your opinion and nobody should be censored, unless they actively wish harm or insult other people. Norman Finkelstein, himself a jew, has spent decades denouncing the way the Holocaust is used to control discourse and shame people into shutting up.
It takes one to know one, that's why Filkenstein says the things he says. You know your own kind better than anyone, and Filkenstein's statement holds more water than any non-Jew defender of Zionists. That's why he can't be called anti-semite, and if a non-Jew echoes his points, why should he be called an anti-semite? This has been the case when Ilhan Omar calls out AIPAC as being about the Benjamins, and the entire press, and the entire Republican and Democrat leadership, calls out Ilhan as anti-semite. I'm no fan of Omar, but when she says things others don't dare say, I call that courage.

And I would rather call the tribe of Jews in the AIPAC as Zionists, as it's unfair to lump them together with the Jews who are just normal people who desire lives of peace, liberty, and happiness, and wish the same to all peoples, and who don't feel entitled by God to have the entire world as their promised land, nor feel so paranoid and insecure that they have to be on the top of the world to be safe.

And why can't Ray Peat talk about the Mossad? Although it just pains me to hear him talk about the CIA being in control of the Mossad. I think he's just testing his base to see if the base can really perceive, think, and act. When you see pretty much every senator and congressman/woman bow to AIPAC and Israel, when you see both Republicans and Democrats voice their support of the planned annexation of the West Bank by Israel for the laughable reason of self-defense, how stupid can one be to see their acquiescence as anything but Zionists having grabbed the US government by the balls, and along that the CIA and the entire national security state?
 

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“An anti-Semite used to mean a man who hated Jews. Now it means a man who is hated by Jews”. -Joseph Sobran

Are you jewish, OldMan?
Whats
It takes one to know one, that's why Filkenstein says the things he says. You know your own kind better than anyone, and Filkenstein's statement holds more water than any non-Jew defender of Zionists. That's why he can't be called anti-semite, and if a non-Jew echoes his points, why should he be called an anti-semite? This has been the case when Ilhan Omar calls out AIPAC as being about the Benjamins, and the entire press, and the entire Republican and Democrat leadership, calls out Ilhan as anti-semite. I'm no fan of Omar, but when she says things others don't dare say, I call that courage.

And I would rather call the tribe of Jews in the AIPAC as Zionists, as it's unfair to lump them together with the Jews who are just normal people who desire lives of peace, liberty, and happiness, and wish the same to all peoples, and who don't feel entitled by God to have the entire world as their promised land, nor feel so paranoid and insecure that they have to be on the top of the world to be safe.

And why can't Ray Peat talk about the Mossad? Although it just pains me to hear him talk about the CIA being in control of the Mossad. I think he's just testing his base to see if the base can really perceive, think, and act. When you see pretty much every senator and congressman/woman bow to AIPAC and Israel, when you see both Republicans and Democrats voice their support of the planned annexation of the West Bank by Israel for the laughable reason of self-defense, how stupid can one be to see their acquiescence as anything but Zionists having grabbed the US government by the balls, and along that the CIA and the entire national security state?
@haidut
 

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@OldMan

At this point, your behaviour is as worthy of being reported as the original comment. I don't know how many times we have to tell you to stop tagging haidut.
I give up.
 

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Either argue the "truth" of any of the points made, or if you cannot then be quiet. Calling someone names like anti-semite or racist or Nazi is just an admission that you cannot or will not debate an issue, and presuppose that your ideas are superior, and you have already won the thinking, and that everyone should just shut up and agree with you.
 

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To be clear, I said Jews are a subversive force. This is considered anti-semitic, but people also associate the term anti-semitism with wanting to genocide Jews in another Holocaust, or something like that. So it's a loaded term.

Subversive doesn't necessarily mean a bad thing, maybe one does not like certain things about the Western world, and prefers fractional reserve banking, loan capital control of labor, neo-liberal economics in general, pornography, media pushing a divisive agenda, fun military excursions in the middle east, mercenary lawyers etc. In this way the subversiveness could be considered a positive.
“An anti-Semite used to mean a man who hated Jews. Now it means a man who is hated by Jews”. -Joseph Sobran

Are you jewish, OldMan?
“An anti-Semite used to mean a man who hated Jews. Now it means a man who is hated by Jews”. -Joseph Sobran

Are you jewish, OldMan?
“An anti-Semite used to mean a man who hated Jews. Now it means a man who is hated by Jews”. -Joseph Sobran

Are you jewish, OldMan?
U
@OldMan

At this point, your behaviour is as worthy of being reported as the original comment. I don't know how many times we have to tell you to stop tagging haidut.
I give up.
@OldMan

At this point, your behaviour is as worthy of being reported as the original comment. I don't know how many times we have to tell you to stop tagging haidut.
I give up.
I don’t get that citation, it’s bollocks. Why does it matter if OldMan was jewish or not? Are only jews entitled to call out baseless anti-Semitic crap?
Either argue the "truth" of any of the points made, or if you cannot then be quiet. Calling someone names like anti-semite or racist or Nazi is just an admission that you cannot or will not debate an issue, and presuppose that your ideas are superior, and you have already won the thinking, and that everyone should just shut up and agree with you.
Either argue the "truth" of any of the points made, or if you cannot then be quiet. Calling someone names like anti-semite or racist or Nazi is just an admission that you cannot or will not debate an issue, and presuppose that your ideas are superior, and you have already won the thinking, and that everyone should just shut up and agree with you.
Either argue the "truth" of any of the points made, or if you cannot then be quiet. Calling someone names like anti-semite or racist or Nazi is just an admission that you cannot or will not debate an issue, and presuppose that your ideas are superior, and you have already won the thinking, and that everyone should just shut up and agree with you.
Either argue the "truth" of any of the points made, or if you cannot then be quiet. Calling someone names like anti-semite or racist or Nazi is just an admission that you cannot or will not debate an issue, and presuppose that your ideas are superior, and you have already won the thinking, and that everyone should just shut up and agree with you.
Either argue the "truth" of any of the points made, or if you cannot then be quiet. Calling someone names like anti-semite or racist or Nazi is just an admission that you cannot or will not debate an issue, and presuppose that your ideas are superior, and you have already won the thinking, and that everyone should just shut up and agree with you.
Michael94's comments are antisemitic. That's the truth.
 

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