Ray Peat KMUD Vaccinations, study of villages info?

Barry

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Ray Peat did a 2-part interview on KMUD discussing vaccinations, and in part 2 he mentioned a study where they looked at 3 villages. The first village was given modern medicine, doctors and vaccinations. The second was only given clean drinking water. The third was the control group. I believe he said that the first village had the worst health outcomes. Is anyone familiar with this study? Thanks.
 
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Nutrition and Infection Field Study in
Guatemalan Villages, 1959-1964
V. Disease Incidence Among Preschool Children Under NatUl'al Village Conditions, With Improved Diet and With Medical and Public Health Services
Nevin S. Scrimshaw, MD, Miguel A. Guzman, PhD, Marina Flores, MS, and John E. Gordon, MD, Guatemala City
THE preceding paperl dealt with deaths "feeding village," received a dietary supple- over a five-year period among children less ment but no other medical or public health than 5 years old in three rural Mayan In- services. A second village, Santa Maria dian villages of the Guatemalan highlands.
The high infant mortality of 149 deaths per
1,000 live births was a striking feature; but
even more striking, and contrary to experi-
ence in industrialized countries, was the oc-
currence of more deaths in the remainder of
the first year than in the neonatal first four
weeks. In succeeding years, at ages 1 "control village"; no measures were intro- through 4, death rates were 44 times greater duced other than a continuing record of than in the United States, and almost as medical events by fortnightly home visits. many deaths occurred in the second year as
in the remaining three years of early child- hood combined.
Social and biological features of the three populations were evaluated at the time the study began,S and the study methods were described.1
These observations are not unique to ru-
ral Guatemalan populations. They hold
generally for developing regions.2 Although
indecisive in this instance because of small causes of death in early childhood.5 Since numbers, the stated findings were strongly both conditions are most common during confirmed by another and more comprehen-
sive field study in the same general region
[Institute of Nutrition of Central America
and Panama-US Office of International
Research (INCAP-OIR) unpublished data]. breast feeding is progressively less ade- The greater interest was in the extent to quate, nutrition deteriorating, and morbidi- which deaths in the three study populations
were influenced by the particular program
of management follo
 

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Nutrition and Infection Field Study in
Guatemalan Villages, 1959-1964
V. Disease Incidence Among Preschool Children Under NatUl'al Village Conditions, With Improved Diet and With Medical and Public Health Services
Nevin S. Scrimshaw, MD, Miguel A. Guzman, PhD, Marina Flores, MS, and John E. Gordon, MD, Guatemala City
THE preceding paperl dealt with deaths "feeding village," received a dietary supple- over a five-year period among children less ment but no other medical or public health than 5 years old in three rural Mayan In- services. A second village, Santa Maria dian villages of the Guatemalan highlands.
The high infant mortality of 149 deaths per
1,000 live births was a striking feature; but
even more striking, and contrary to experi-
ence in industrialized countries, was the oc-
currence of more deaths in the remainder of
the first year than in the neonatal first four
weeks. In succeeding years, at ages 1 "control village"; no measures were intro- through 4, death rates were 44 times greater duced other than a continuing record of than in the United States, and almost as medical events by fortnightly home visits. many deaths occurred in the second year as
in the remaining three years of early child- hood combined.
Social and biological features of the three populations were evaluated at the time the study began,S and the study methods were described.1
These observations are not unique to ru-
ral Guatemalan populations. They hold
generally for developing regions.2 Although
indecisive in this instance because of small causes of death in early childhood.5 Since numbers, the stated findings were strongly both conditions are most common during confirmed by another and more comprehen-
sive field study in the same general region
[Institute of Nutrition of Central America
and Panama-US Office of International
Research (INCAP-OIR) unpublished data]. breast feeding is progressively less ade- The greater interest was in the extent to quate, nutrition deteriorating, and morbidi- which deaths in the three study populations
were influenced by the particular program
of management follo
Thank you @ecstatichamster !
 
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Barry

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To sum up, it seems that there were 3 villages: a control group, a village where the children just got a vitamin supplement, and a village that received "preventive medicine and medical care". The third group showed little health improvement, although there were fewer deaths. The supplement village had "appreciable but limited improvement in disease incidence and physical growth". I guess the only real conclusion here is that medical care provides little benefit for these villages.

 

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