- Feb 4, 2015
@Westside PUFAs if a person drinks 12 oz of 2% milk, and has 1 tablespoon butter, and 2 oz a day of ice cream, and random occasional (not daily) few ounces of cheddar cheese, would you consider this high fat and dangerous? While eating otherwise Peaty fruits, 8 oz fresh OJ, 4-6 oz muscle meats, eggs, potatoes, mushrooms, raw carrot, variety of more peaty type of veggies (zucchini, bell peppers, etc)?
I'm guessing the sleeping can be resolved by simply eating more carb calories and calories over all in general!?As long as they are happy with their amount of body fat, their blood sugar is always balanced, they can sleep at least 6 hours without waking up and their mood is happy then it should be fine.
Great question and I have seen it discussed before with highly variable responses with great logic on both sides. My conclusion over the last few years? Experiment and see what works best for you. Every person’s system seems to be different. Personally, I settled in between your question: 2% unhomogenized milk with no added vitamins.So what is the lesser of two evils? Whole milk, which can be fattening and excess PUFA in very large quantities, or low fat milk with the added vitamins potentially causing allergic reactions?
Great question and I have seen it discussed before with highly variable responses with great logic on both sides. My conclusion over the last few years? Experiment and see what works best for you. Every person’s system seems to be different. Personally, I settled in between your question: 2% unhomogenized milk with no added vitamins.
Thanks! I'll see if I can find that around here. I also use the Bob's Red Mills powdered non-fat milk, which doesn't list vitamin A or D in the ingredients, so I'm assuming it doesn't have them??Also in Texas there is Mill King which is a 1% without vitamins also unhomogenized.
I think you are right on this! I also use that to occasionally make pancakes. Yummy.Thanks! I'll see if I can find that around here. I also use the Bob's Red Mills powdered non-fat milk, which doesn't list vitamin A or D in the ingredients, so I'm assuming it doesn't have them??
Email him and ask him directly. These are good questions.I'm still curious as to why Ray Peat only mentions "if you're trying to lose weight" for why he doesn't recommend whole milk and not any other health repercussions.
It's weird to me that he seems to lead with "If you're trying to lose weight..." on those KMUD interviews even though the hosts don't even ask the question regarding trying to lose weight. Who cares about losing weight unless you're obese and it's affecting your quality of life? Does Peat believe extra weight is damaging to the body? This is what I was trying to get at with my original question.
It would seem to me, if you are eating a diet based on Peat's suggestions, you would probably have a very low caloric intake of total fat anyway, even on whole milk. So why does he NOT recommend whole milk? Is this recommendation directed ONLY to people trying to lose weight (and therefore taken out of context when people say whole milk is not Peaty), or is Peat indirectly suggesting people should try to adopt a low fat diet overall as much as a possible? I mentioned the PUFA issue with consuming whole milk, but I haven't seen Peat directly talk about the concern of high PUFA with whole milk.
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