Puberty Stopped From Peating ?

[cellboy]

Hey guys, I've been peating for about two years now(started when I was 16) and apart from all the great things that came up with it, there's one thing that I noticed over the last few months and I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or if it's completely normal on this diet(and lifestyle). It seems as if my puberty stopped or something. Sometimes I even feel like I'm turning back into a child, physically speaking ofc. Not that it's a bad thing but you know how society is nowadays. They're all expecting us to be grown ups since birth. That's how it is in my country anyways.
A year ago i used to look more masculine and had denser body and facial hair. My libido was higher too. Although i wasn't very muscular like i am now, i was leaner and had a lower bf% which made my muscles look more pronounced. If i shave off my beard i could easily pass as a 14 year old boy which is kinda depressing sometimes. I've read somewhere here on this forum that it's actually estrogen that masculinizes men. I've also read a study where males with a decreased sensitivity to estrogen became eunuchoid shaped or sth like that. I didn't do any lab tests(too expensive here in austria) to see where my estradiol levels are but i'm guessing they're pretty low from all the **** and raw carrots i've eaten.
Maybe it's low dht from coconut oil or lower prostaglandins etc.(read that they're responsible for shaping that little thing in your brain which makes fsh and lh). I'm really confused about this one and if anyone here could help me i'd be very thankful :)

 

[Constatine]

Well what does Peating mean to you? What is your diet like? Your lifestyle?

 

[cellboy]

Well what does Peating mean to you? What is your diet like? Your lifestyle?

For me it's implementing dr. Peat's ideas into everyday life and mastering stressful events and situations through a healthy diet and mindset.
My diet looks as follows:
-In the morning:
0.5 litres of warm milk with added sugar and salt, one or two raw eggs and two glasses of oj(homemade and strained).
-Lunch:
Mashed potatoes with minced meat or a gellatinous soup made with lamb feet and cartillage etc.
1 litre of warm milk with added sugar and salt and tons of coke or oj
1 raw carrot afterwards
-Dinner:
same as lunch plus some more milk.
Note that i snack with haribo gummy bears throughout the day and drink tons of coke and dont take any supplements apart from aspirin.
Lifestyle-wise i always try to keep myself mentally stimulated with various activities such as reading, learning new things, meeting new people, exploring new places and etc.

 

[TheDrumGuy]

I dunno man you're still growing and developing, I wouldn't mess around with all these bizarre diets. Why did you get into Peat? Most of us are here because we've screwed ourselves up badly somehow, and we're trying to fix our bodies. The risks are much greater when you're a kid, and the benefits smaller. If you screw up your development when you're young, that's it, you can never really fix it. What did your parents think when you started Peating at 16?

 

[LUH 3417]

There is nothing bizarre about your diet. Looking young is a good thing you'll appreciate it way more in 10 years.

 

[Soundios]

Your diet is spot on compared to most adults, let alone 16 year olds, peating or not. As has been mentioned, as you get older looking youthful will work massively in your favour.

 

[Constatine]

The symptoms you are getting definitely sound like downregulated 5-ar. Coconut oil, carrots, and maybe even potatoes (though I'm unsure about this one) can all lower 5-ar. Carotenoids in general seem to downregulate 5-ar. Also I wouldn't recommend coke or gummy bears. Sugar is great but there should really be nutrients that accompany it. Also you should probably not be taking aspirin regularly at your age. A good way to boost DHT tissue and brain levels is running sprints. Your diet is also very limited which is very bad. The human body thrives on a variety of foods, not limited diets (unless you already have very bad health). You need a lot more vitamins and minerals in your diet. Shellfish (especially oysters), some leafy greens (especially kale and spinach in moderate amounts), cheeses (Gouda cheese is high in vitamin k), fruits (juices are missing large components of fruits), some mushrooms (though don't overdo it as they tend to be relatively strong 5-ar inhibitors), and even cultural foods (from healthy- long living cultures) can be good additions to your diet.

 

[cellboy]

I dunno man you're still growing and developing, I wouldn't mess around with all these bizarre diets. Why did you get into Peat? Most of us are here because we've screwed ourselves up badly somehow, and we're trying to fix our bodies. The risks are much greater when you're a kid, and the benefits smaller. If you screw up your development when you're young, that's it, you can never really fix it. What did your parents think when you started Peating at 16?

I got into weightlifting prior to peat and at that time I was trying to maximise my testosterone levels through diet and found a blog called anabolicmen. The author there got into peat himself and was referencing him in every one of his posts about boosting test levels and such so I looked him up on the net and found his articles. His work basically answered most of my questions I had at the time. I was amazed of how every single thing dr. Peat said worked and made total sense so I stuck with it and here I am now.
My father was peating his whole life without even knowing it(drinking and eating tons of milk and fruits, avoiding fat, getting adequate sunlight etc.) so it wasn’t a big change here at home. My mother‘s quite the opposite though as she‘s been doing low carb high fat the last five years or so.

 

[cellboy]

The symptoms you are getting definitely sound like downregulated 5-ar. Coconut oil, carrots, and maybe even potatoes (though I'm unsure about this one) can all lower 5-ar. Carotenoids in general seem to downregulate 5-ar. Also I wouldn't recommend coke or gummy bears. Sugar is great but there should really be nutrients that accompany it. Also you should probably not be taking aspirin regularly at your age. A good way to boost DHT tissue and brain levels is running sprints. Your diet is also very limited which is very bad. The human body thrives on a variety of foods, not limited diets (unless you already have very bad health). You need a lot more vitamins and minerals in your diet. Shellfish (especially oysters), some leafy greens (especially kale and spinach in moderate amounts), cheeses (Gouda cheese is high in vitamin k), fruits (juices are missing large components of fruits), some mushrooms (though don't overdo it as they tend to be relatively strong 5-ar inhibitors), and even cultural foods (from healthy- long living cultures) can be good additions to your diet.

Thanks man really appreciate it. I'm definitely gonna cut off coconut oil for a while and limit my fat intake to dairy alone and see where it goes. Apart from potatoes and fruits, are there and other good sources of carbs. Bread maybe? I've heard rice lowers 5ar too.
I bought some Gouda and Brie today to up my K intake.
What about Sauerkraut though? It's pretty popular here in Austria and apparently it got a decent amount of vitamin K2 and some healthy bacteria along with it.
Do you know how long it takes for the 5ar enzymes to upregulate after following your guidelines? Hopefully i wont get something similar to post finasteride syndrome.

 

[RobertJM]

And in the 'similar related threads' section below, I saw this:

PUFA deficiency delays puberty

 

[kayumochi]

And in the 'similar related threads' section below, I saw this:

PUFA deficiency delays puberty

there you go

 

[cellboy]

there you go

Interesting...so upping my pufa intake a bit(egg yolks and chicken)and limiting aspirin should resolve my issues?

 

[Pulstar]

Cellboy, is it you on your avatar? I mean if that's you, you definetely look normal for your age. I would say even "older" than many other young people. If all above is true, I'm pretty surprised, that you find your looks depressing.

 

[Ulysses]

Charlie is right - stop eating the 5ar ibhibitors. Also start eating as much high quality red meat as you can without going way over the recommended protein intake. Peating didn't work that well for me during the first few months I tried it, and eventually I concluded it was because I had very little beef in my diet. Adding it back in made a huge difference.

Whether you should be Peating at all is an interesting question. I have often wished I knew at your age what know now, but adolescence is a special time of life, and it might be more in your interests to just be as active as humanly possible while eating everything in sight.

Now, on a more personal note, I’m not trying to minimize the significance of your feelings, but I want to tell you I had the exact same insecurities when I was 16, and ten years later, when I look photos of myself at your age, I can’t understand where those insecurities came from. Feeling like there’s something wrong with you, even when there’s not, is a normal (but not necessary) part of your age.

So, if you make these dietary changes and still feel “off,” stop speculating and go see a doctor, get your blood levels of the sex hormones tested (if your doctor/insurance won’t, there are conpanies who do it very cheaply out of pocket) do anything to help put your mind at ease, because these insecurities will only hold you back in life, and if that is you in your avatar, I’m quite confident in saying they’re irrational.

Take whatever action you need to get over them, because while hormones do matter, there is more to life and being a man. Letting go of insecurities is one of the most masculinizing things you can do.

 

[PowertothePeatple]

One thing that comes to mind is your fiber intake seems low. It is the one issue I have with being too Peatish. You need fiber to detox estrogen and I am not sure if one carrot is enough do that. And I would think that a rise in estrogen might feel like a halt in puberty but I could totally off base about that. Have you actually checked your levels or are you just assuming your estrogen is low?

 

[postman]

Dairy is anti-androgenic.

 

[johnwester130]

It's the coconut oil

The Countries That Eat The Most Coconut Oil Have The Most Transexuals

 

[Atman]

Hey guys, I've been peating for about two years now(started when I was 16) and apart from all the great things that came up with it, there's one thing that I noticed over the last few months and I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or if it's completely normal on this diet(and lifestyle). It seems as if my puberty stopped or something. Sometimes I even feel like I'm turning back into a child, physically speaking ofc. Not that it's a bad thing but you know how society is nowadays. They're all expecting us to be grown ups since birth. That's how it is in my country anyways.
A year ago i used to look more masculine and had denser body and facial hair. My libido was higher too. Although i wasn't very muscular like i am now, i was leaner and had a lower bf% which made my muscles look more pronounced. If i shave off my beard i could easily pass as a 14 year old boy which is kinda depressing sometimes. I've read somewhere here on this forum that it's actually estrogen that masculinizes men. I've also read a study where males with a decreased sensitivity to estrogen became eunuchoid shaped or sth like that. I didn't do any lab tests(too expensive here in austria) to see where my estradiol levels are but i'm guessing they're pretty low from all the **** and raw carrots i've eaten.
Maybe it's low dht from coconut oil or lower prostaglandins etc.(read that they're responsible for shaping that little thing in your brain which makes fsh and lh). I'm really confused about this one and if anyone here could help me i'd be very thankful :)

Delaying puberty is probably a good sign. I think it's comparable to longer gestation periods which result in bigger brains. You basically "peak" later and higher in life. Consider yourself privileged.
The opposite trend is occurring in recent decades, i.e. girls and boys hitting puberty earlier which is a sign of degeneration.
I am a bit envious of you. How did you find about Peat's work and get convinced of it at such a young age?

A related read would be chapter 2 of Rushton's controversional "Race, Evolution and Behaviour".
Quote:
"Blacks are born earlier and grow quicker than Whites and Orientals. The three-way race pattern occurs in milestones such as sexual maturity, family stability, crime rates, and population growth."

 

[cellboy]

Cellboy, is it you on your avatar? I mean if that's you, you definetely look normal for your age. I would say even "older" than many other young people. If all above is true, I'm pretty surprised, that you find your looks depressing.

Yeah but i‘ve written that article almost a year ago and i didn‘t knew a lot back then especially the importance of light and it‘s role in creating steroids. And i definitely overdid coconut oil. Switched to butter and things got a lot better.

 

[cellboy]

Delaying puberty is probably a good sign. I think it's comparable to longer gestation periods which result in bigger brains. You basically "peak" later and higher in life. Consider yourself privileged.
The opposite trend is occurring in recent decades, i.e. girls and boys hitting puberty earlier which is a sign of degeneration.
I am a bit envious of you. How did you find about Peat's work and get convinced of it at such a young age?

A related read would be chapter 2 of Rushton's controversional "Race, Evolution and Behaviour".
Quote:
"Blacks are born earlier and grow quicker than Whites and Orientals. The three-way race pattern occurs in milestones such as sexual maturity, family stability, crime rates, and population growth."

Yeah it‘s very sad how fast everything goes nowadays. People are gettin dumber and dumber each day it‘s just pathetic what humans have become. Todays kids are destructive and pretty much useless imo. But yeah they‘re not the ones to blame. Anyways I got into lifting and wanted to maximize gains through optimizing T levels and that lead me here a few years later and i‘m very glad i did.