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Proof Of How The Public Will Believe Anything Re: Coronavirus BS

Discussion in 'Society' started by nwo2012, Apr 2, 2020.

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  1. Homo Consumericus

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    Perhaps you confuse Switzerland for Sweden.

    Sweden is not just all-aboard, but leading the pack in some respects regarding oikophobia, immigration, EU federalism, globalism, feminism (for adults), gender fluidity (primarily for male children), and just about every other mainstream policy.

    When I heard Sweden was not part of the herd this time, I genuinely raised my left brow.
     
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    I'd gladly suffer all of those things over belonging to NATO or being a US ally.
     
  3. Homo Consumericus

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    Strong sentiment, yet I have wondered if NATO has outlived its purpose.
     
  4. Terma

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    There are plenty of well-meaning people, health care leaders, even politicians and corporations, but not one single honest mainstream media umbrella. I found my local news 2x more condescending than anything my government panel claimed. Bold-faced liars who see us as naked sheep, no two ways about it. 2016 election was the final blow, they dropped all pretense of impartiality, at least worse than I'd witnessed in my lifetime including 2001. On the internet, people run their disinformation campaigns for them, because they know how to get people to do that, ancient playbook I assume they constantly refine. Travis and others thought companies paid shills, personally I doubt most need to do that. They can't stop the web, so much like religions use their congregations to spread the word. Ideological psychological warfare through the populace. I don't subscribe to any particular conspiracy but media are corrupt beyond question and bad faith actors at best in any possible scenario, and partially to blame for the faults of the population. Look at how often they need to remind us they're on our side and the slew of hand-holding articles devoid of any real content practically written for children - they play the mother figure better than nanny states. Meaning, I have some doubts but it's hard not to give that video more benefit than to them, by default. My government was not releasing worst-case predictions, and I'm starting to wonder if it's not because of political play (he was re-elected not that long ago) but because the cabinet knows how the media will spin it and are actually at the mercy of media rather than the other way around - often portrayed this way by hollywood (red flag I know). Maybe share of blame is much more widespread, but I see my government primarily as an entity of incompetence (and to some extent corporate-infiltrated socialism, but profits explain that better than ideology) and there's more than one way to interpret the descent into progressively more authoritarian terminology of my dear leader. I loved that part with the reused hospital scene, classic. Even if it were a local news blunder it shows how liberal with the truth is the reporter/manager mindset - gotta get that story! Corrupt at every level even if simply by how their incentivize reporters. These are world-class professional tale-spinners and it wouldn't surprise me if some of the other conspiracy theories are put out by them so they can get then refute from their own platforms and get viewers to acquiesce. That's why I limit my faith in conspiracies (at the extreme: are you sure you want to know who "released" the virus? None of us are in a position to verify accusations; can you imagine fanatics successfully framing a country in public opinion in this atmosphere? *). Somehow these outlets have to be defamed (I meant de-famed, not with more lies). Absolutely disgusting.

    * Just as I wrote that, here was the second most visible tweet in the world:
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    (I wrote this because some of comments on this forum kind of pissed me off. The human population is unhealthy as hell, the virus put the cherry on the cake of all the proof needed because in fact they're one and the same. I'm not about to pin this on people starting at a disadvantage just trying to survive madness, and I hope I won't even if I get crucified in return. Some people are impossible but often it seems to brush with mental illness - they count on it. Fixing this properly could take humans decades or even a century but in the end everyone has to be onboard in understanding reality. Every person you throw under the bus is a body you have to pick up later. I'm not in the best position to talk about ethics but I spent decades "watching" these behaviors.)
     
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    Damn was sure I saw that post in a different thread. Yes exactly the second part is a huge part of it. We might as well have had psychological conditioning because that's what everybody on the internet's been doing for the last 20 years: low-effort parroting various forms of media or their concepts and affiliations. Easy and comfortable, illusion of accomplishment and belonging, social standing, power, fight club at the touch of fingertips no matter where you are but especially from home. Now that's all anyone can do. People with mental illnesses run with it at 3x the pace and eventually dominate "conversations" through sheer obsession. The media has every interest to promote gladiator arena fights between voters - it's all politics have become - shocks and thrills, addiction, then co-opting the human drive for purpose. Biggest distraction in human history, except it's viewed as positive political participation. You better vote, but vote for the nazi we'll ******* kill you. The solution's clearly health for energy to get people out of avoidance mode and better sense of purpose. I think a good portion of these people can't be reached without (better) physical/biochemical intervention with a 10-50% psychological focus. I lived this problem to extremes but I'm only a canary and without the risk of job loss and circumstances. This is a hell of a social experiment, and it's frightening to think that my neighbors might now become the people I used to know online. Or we might have more in common and now they'll understand lol. If this goes on too long they're gonna kill me, you can basically assume that's what happened. This opinion routinely gets ***t on by political activists of all walks of life, but it'll never leave me...

     
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    Gladys Premier works for external beneficaries, she is going places, a lovely seat in some board, or Customer Experience officer at Uber to whom she betrayed thousands of small businesses and investors by cherry picking law enforcement. She is about to bring boatloads of infected from a foreign cruise ship. I want her out and the whole corrupt crew
     
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    In my opinion seems not unlikely the media is in collusion with pharmaceutical companies and see them as clients. But the outlets add their own spin, that's part of their appeal - they're creative. The owners of these outlets are eccentrics who must have their own ideologies separate from their partners. Every player in the game adds his personal touch. Even in collectives these people may have friends but won't bow to masters, not really, they all believe they're above reproach, that's why they always go too far, and they must be hellish wildcards to try to manipulate. Remind you of anyone in power? Pharmaceutical companies factually influence medical systems and FDA/Health Canada - to eliminate competition (dangers of centralized socialism). If I were them I would back away from having my name brought up in controversies and let a front take care of it. Increase the ideology:profiteering ratio in discussions so nevermind where the billions go every year. Soften the image. It's a bloody battle for market dominance waged over our heads and exploiting the broken systems we actually believe protect us from corporations (in canada, we occasionally get a win like growth hormones in milk, but they're throwing breadcrumbs - canadians love to think they're special, but europe goes way further). You don't need an intricate 2000-year conspiracy for this one, we just walk around elephants. I look at companies like Johnson & Johnson and good ol' Bayer and assume each might employ different media outlets. It's still a risky operation if someone ***** up badly, but the media doubles as a backup plan to control backlash or worsen it during rivalries. They have every reason to want control of their image. On the other hand I'm sure some right-wing CEOs are not pure psychopaths just capitalists or in the best case (probably smaller companies) true libertarians and might actually believe they're doing this in the interests of their shareholders and family/friends - representing the more benign. Even if there were a greater conspiracy, this problem right in front of us would be one of its strongest limbs - manipulating human biology - the blueprints of our future - and usually you want to focus your efforts where you might actually make a difference. That's how you win in a world of disinformation: solve the problems that exist in every version of reality. These distinctions are crucial because in the end we'll still need pharmaceutical companies and some media - good ones with limited influence. New Zealand's medical prescription system is a good place to start to reign them in in our times - if you're gonna risk central socialism you better do it right, over here we're still shooting ourselves in the foot for pills. I just know what I would have done and if I were them, I would invent a ton of conspiracies and laugh my ass off lobbing grenades at herring from my armed yacht in international waters while the masses line up for a taste of my ejaculate.

    Overblowing conspiracies is one type of thing fueling mass mysteria and might be exactly what they hope for. They're trying to paint everyone in alternative medicine as total cooks. Remember AIDS? Does anyone in the world who hasn't seen Dallas Buyers Club have any idea you can actually treat the disease with alternatives? That means new tactics are needed. Maybe someday we have to make an independent production?

    I would suggest to this forum to make disclaimed controversial sub-sections whose threads are not included on the front page portal and recent posts and encourage people to post the crazier stuff there. If the functionality isn't that fine-grained, make it a "private" section for all registered users, maybe that would be best. I've tried to link this forum to people before, but now there's no way I can do that because everything is littered. I watch Ancient Aliens and regularly incriminate myself, but none of that was serious, now I just hope that was clear enough. If I have to I'll stop posting about those things myself (looks like we all fall prey: I was shocked at the David Icke thing... that's ******* horrid lol). Please note I explicitly stand against deletion of any posts, forums should provide ample functionality to moderate without that button so you only need to move things.
     
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    She's actually Armenian Christian.

    Scapegoating the Jews as running the world is one of the real ruling elite's oldest and most effective tricks. One which I've noticed you pushing over and over.

    You seriously need to research a lot more than a few Brother Nathaniel videos and other CIA disinfo sites.
     
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    The Cedars Sinai hospital shown in the video is located in West Hollywood, Children's Hospital in the Hollywood district. Both are in heavily populated areas of Los Angeles (West Hollywood is it's own city, but bordered entirely by the city of Los Angeles). I have been to both, walked by both numerous times, and have never seen either that empty, even late in the evening.
     
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    Yeah I'd consider it a personal favor if we could kinda not scapegoat the jews, I come from places where every other post is about that and those were retarded places bro

    I agree I was uneasy some parts of the video about the assumptions and checked the comments. But footage reuse happens.

    Put yourself in their shoes. Nobody can do that 100% but you can infer their mentality from actions/outcomes. The rest is rich man. Someone somewhere is maybe going overboard and building planes at the level of alien spacecraft or dabbling in predicting the future (if you want to see something like that: Third Eye Spies (2019) - IMDb) but I don't think that's Johnson & Johnson or they particularly care about each other, but sure other people are benefiting from this (you're right, I don't want Bill Gate's monstrosities on my computers, why would I want them under my skin... but priorities). But limit the scope to tangible issues or you'll go crazy, you'll never fix anything, and stick to real people you can name in a court of law or we'll never have any rights. We never really had rights because we never had the intelligence/resilience/health required to keep them under stress. We don't progress intelligently, advancements/investments terribly prioritized to not at all (I'm aware some would say intentionally disordered from within, just waiting for more hard proof). We're the bubble. But already there are like 20 potential treatment options and I was surprised to see the dailymail report the last one honestly, never trust anything out of the UK (you people were already slaves). Never had at any point the impression this was forever. You can see some researchers are really trying for us some probably risking their immune systems by not sleeping and I'm grateful cause I don't have the energy to do it right now and miss part of that knowledge. I know we'll come out of this cause I'm a prisoner in my home since 2013 and I'm still glad I was born, ymmv.
     
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    Lol. Maybe your research is poor mate, mine isn't. The court Jews argunent is a diversion, nothing more. Yeah true her mum is from Jerusalem, perhaps a crypto, but the demon is a Zionist through and through, and a jew lover that she throws pre-chanukah parties ffs. But yes in this instance the jewishness isn't the deciding factor. Still a demon nonetheless as are all politicians. But I give you full credit as you didn't incite the antisemitism got as most do.
    FWIW I'm from a Jewish background, but that doesn't stop me from holding the views I do, which are evidence based.
     
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    Favour granted no more J word swearing from me.
     
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    I apologize if my comment was offensive, I just wish it was built-in instinct to know it's a topic best avoided unless you enjoy company of anti-intellectuals.

    I'm sorry. I'm trying to dream man.
     
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    No offense was taken by me whatsoever. Dreaming is good.
     
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    Peat has mentioned how medical journals and media rely on pharmaceutical advertisement dollars and sponsorship.
     
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    This is the proving proof of how powerful media are on the masses. If you control the media you can make people do WHAT EVER YOU WANT
     
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    Now we're going to see scientists getting locked up. That'll be a scene.
     
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    Well, media and government.
     
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