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Hi peeps,
Hope y'all doing fine
Let's get right to it. So basically I tried progesterone for a couple of times and I felt quite immediate effects. I haven't touched hormones that often and I still (as mentioned in my other threads) keep it mostly at vitamins and minerals. I read so much diverse things about progesterone for males so I never really came near it. To put it bluntly, I got a bit scared off since to me it came over as a bit of a controversial supplement for men. Even when provided with studies on why it may be beneficial, I saw different comments that made me think, that if I took it, it would turn me into a female (<exaggerating here but you get the point). So I was like, I'll keep it at pansterone (2.5mg) and andro (1mg) when experimenting.
I do have to say that I never was really aggressive, but pansterone and andro have noticable effects on the nervous system. I don't get overexcited as easily, where I hype myself to yell "lightweight baby" in the gym.
Prior to using progesterone I have used andro and pansterone together with fat soluble vitamins. I did this 3x a week and haven't done this for longer then 2 months. I also stop using it completely cause I like experimenting with vitamins and minerals more. Sometimes I would also try it on the scortum out of curiousness regarding effects (2.5mg pansterone + 1mg andro, sometimes with or without vitamin K2 2mg, vitamin D3 1000iu, vitamin A 2500IU and vitamin E 50-75IU). Sometimes I would play with the vitamin dosages and administering more or less topically but andro + pansterone stayed the same, always.
Hardness down there was pretty noticable and good, but it was good prior to using this also.
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However, back to progesterone. I saw this passing by when I was browsing the forum: Scoliosis is due to cortisol receptor excess
When I just started progesterone about 2 weeks ago, I dosed it at 3mg topically. Sometimes I would also rub in vitamin K2, vitamin D3 or vitamin A on the same spot.
So what I decided to do for the past 2 weeks, was to administer progesterone topically together with the pansterone and androsterone, 3x a week (not every day). Mostly on training days and most of it I put it on the shoulders aswell. I never went above 2.5mg pansterone and 1mg andro. Never ever have I applied progesterone to the scrotum and I won't to it anyways. I have tried it on the scalp 1 or 2 times and on on the back when I read the scoliosis thing.
Now here is what has happened. First 2-3 times, I wasn't too sure what I'd think of it. But until recently 1-2 weeks ago, I noticed drastic effects when applying it on the back. I put it small bottle with about 5ml of olive oil and a very small amount of vitamin E. Soon after showering I applied it to the back and I noticed pretty immediate effects to say the least and (I am not exaggerating here). I felt muscles loosen up a lot, like wayyyy less stiff and more relaxed. For the past years, I wasn't really able to relax my muscles like this. It also most definitely had an anesthetic effect. Body temperature was better. It felt like my back had opened up, I could breathe more easily through lungs because of less stiffness. I could also stretch more easily.
There are a couple of HOWEVERS:
1) Little negative is that, despite NOT using it on the scrotum, it had effects there. It was just a bit soft there.
2) It tanked the sex drive a little, felt like ED. Using the combo's without progesterone would make things rockhard, so progesterone did do something here most definitely.
The relaxing effect lasted well over 2 days, degrading a bit over the course, but one more very odd thing is that I could lift heavier at the gym without much trouble. Is this because of muscles becoming more loose (hypothesis: more bloodflow because of relaxed state, allowing movements to be less jerky etc.) or is there another reason for this. Perhaps some of you guys know.
Again, never did I think of using progesterone for males but as I saw more topics coming by over the years, I thought why not try it out for once.
I saw other guys mentioning in threads that it killed their sex drive, even on small doses. They did notice "feel good" effects from it aswell like I did.
It felt extremely good for my back but I am scared of continuing it any further, don't wanna turn into a woman overnight hahaha (I'm sorry). Also, I read mixed things about high progesterone possibly being involved in causing gyno but other sources say that a little helps with gyno actually. Ugh, everything just scares me off when I read these kinds of stuff.
Another concrete question is, hypothetically speaking, would it cause any harm if a male used 3mg of progesterone for a long duration, whether it's a year or rest of their lives without taking a break. Like would it actually likely cause any estrogen, gyno issues etc? I know everyone is different try looking at it as more of a general consensus thing.
I am going to use it 1 or 2 more times before backing off it, to confirm the effects. I don't know whether I will return to it.
I would like to know, whether the good effects are actually good effects or whether they are side effects. So for example, the body/muscles has relaxed more and muscles loosened a bit but at the cost of tanking the sex drive and ED (getting loose/soft down there). So I can't really decide whether it's good then or not.
Hope y'all doing fine
Let's get right to it. So basically I tried progesterone for a couple of times and I felt quite immediate effects. I haven't touched hormones that often and I still (as mentioned in my other threads) keep it mostly at vitamins and minerals. I read so much diverse things about progesterone for males so I never really came near it. To put it bluntly, I got a bit scared off since to me it came over as a bit of a controversial supplement for men. Even when provided with studies on why it may be beneficial, I saw different comments that made me think, that if I took it, it would turn me into a female (<exaggerating here but you get the point). So I was like, I'll keep it at pansterone (2.5mg) and andro (1mg) when experimenting.
I do have to say that I never was really aggressive, but pansterone and andro have noticable effects on the nervous system. I don't get overexcited as easily, where I hype myself to yell "lightweight baby" in the gym.
Prior to using progesterone I have used andro and pansterone together with fat soluble vitamins. I did this 3x a week and haven't done this for longer then 2 months. I also stop using it completely cause I like experimenting with vitamins and minerals more. Sometimes I would also try it on the scortum out of curiousness regarding effects (2.5mg pansterone + 1mg andro, sometimes with or without vitamin K2 2mg, vitamin D3 1000iu, vitamin A 2500IU and vitamin E 50-75IU). Sometimes I would play with the vitamin dosages and administering more or less topically but andro + pansterone stayed the same, always.
Hardness down there was pretty noticable and good, but it was good prior to using this also.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
However, back to progesterone. I saw this passing by when I was browsing the forum: Scoliosis is due to cortisol receptor excess
When I just started progesterone about 2 weeks ago, I dosed it at 3mg topically. Sometimes I would also rub in vitamin K2, vitamin D3 or vitamin A on the same spot.
So what I decided to do for the past 2 weeks, was to administer progesterone topically together with the pansterone and androsterone, 3x a week (not every day). Mostly on training days and most of it I put it on the shoulders aswell. I never went above 2.5mg pansterone and 1mg andro. Never ever have I applied progesterone to the scrotum and I won't to it anyways. I have tried it on the scalp 1 or 2 times and on on the back when I read the scoliosis thing.
Now here is what has happened. First 2-3 times, I wasn't too sure what I'd think of it. But until recently 1-2 weeks ago, I noticed drastic effects when applying it on the back. I put it small bottle with about 5ml of olive oil and a very small amount of vitamin E. Soon after showering I applied it to the back and I noticed pretty immediate effects to say the least and (I am not exaggerating here). I felt muscles loosen up a lot, like wayyyy less stiff and more relaxed. For the past years, I wasn't really able to relax my muscles like this. It also most definitely had an anesthetic effect. Body temperature was better. It felt like my back had opened up, I could breathe more easily through lungs because of less stiffness. I could also stretch more easily.
There are a couple of HOWEVERS:
1) Little negative is that, despite NOT using it on the scrotum, it had effects there. It was just a bit soft there.
2) It tanked the sex drive a little, felt like ED. Using the combo's without progesterone would make things rockhard, so progesterone did do something here most definitely.
The relaxing effect lasted well over 2 days, degrading a bit over the course, but one more very odd thing is that I could lift heavier at the gym without much trouble. Is this because of muscles becoming more loose (hypothesis: more bloodflow because of relaxed state, allowing movements to be less jerky etc.) or is there another reason for this. Perhaps some of you guys know.
Again, never did I think of using progesterone for males but as I saw more topics coming by over the years, I thought why not try it out for once.
I saw other guys mentioning in threads that it killed their sex drive, even on small doses. They did notice "feel good" effects from it aswell like I did.
It felt extremely good for my back but I am scared of continuing it any further, don't wanna turn into a woman overnight hahaha (I'm sorry). Also, I read mixed things about high progesterone possibly being involved in causing gyno but other sources say that a little helps with gyno actually. Ugh, everything just scares me off when I read these kinds of stuff.
Another concrete question is, hypothetically speaking, would it cause any harm if a male used 3mg of progesterone for a long duration, whether it's a year or rest of their lives without taking a break. Like would it actually likely cause any estrogen, gyno issues etc? I know everyone is different try looking at it as more of a general consensus thing.
I am going to use it 1 or 2 more times before backing off it, to confirm the effects. I don't know whether I will return to it.
I would like to know, whether the good effects are actually good effects or whether they are side effects. So for example, the body/muscles has relaxed more and muscles loosened a bit but at the cost of tanking the sex drive and ED (getting loose/soft down there). So I can't really decide whether it's good then or not.
