Post scientific studies showing immunity in those previously had Covid-19

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I am starting this thread as a way to gather scientific studies showing that those who previously had Covid-19 have immunity.
In the world of vaccine mandates, it might be helpful to have in hand, at least for those employers that are a bit open minded.


Please post as you find so that we would have an organized thread.
 

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I think that might refer to this study:
 
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Except for CDC and WHO vaccine boosterism, natural immunity was considered the standard against which vaccines were compared.
>The researchers estimated that the percentage of those with naturally occurring antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 in Texas is 35.3%, and the total estimated immunity is 69.1%.
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Professor Zywicki has recovered from Covid-19 and thereby acquired robust natural immunity, as confirmed in multiple positive SARS-CoV-2 antibody tests during the past year. Professor Zywicki’s immunologist, Dr. Hooman Noorchashm, has advised him that, based on his personal health and immunity status, it is medically unnecessary to get a Covid-19 vaccine—and that it violates medical ethics to order unnecessary procedures. Affidavits from Drs. Jay Bhattacharya, Martin Kulldorff, and Noorchashm explain that undergoing a full vaccination course creates a risk of harm and provides no benefit either to Prof. Zywicki or the GMU community.Washington, DC (August 4, 2021) – George Mason University (GMU) is threatening employees with disciplinary action that includes “unpaid leave or possible loss of employment” if they don’t comply with the public university’s vaccine mandate. Late last night, the New Civil Liberties Alliance, a nonpartisan, nonprofit civil rights group, filed a complaint in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia on behalf of Antonin Scalia Law School Professor Todd Zywicki against GMU’s unconstitutional reopening policy for the Fall 2021 semester.
pubmed (national library of medicine) database search will show all published studies without the hot air/spin.
 
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From the Mercola blog today - see the last paragraph:

A leaked Department of Defense slide show presentation that was quickly removed from the internet, but has been preserved in archives and on private websites shows that the shots are not meeting experts’ expectations.

Using hospitalization records from 5.6 million Medicare beneficiaries who were fully vaccinated, the researchers found that 148,000 fully vaccinated individuals age 65 and older came down with COVID anyway; 30,000 were hospitalized in an intensive care unit and 9,400 were admitted to an intensive care unit. The death rate was 2.2%.

In the slide show, authors point out that the vaccine effectiveness against infection and hospitalization “is lower than reported in smaller studies.” Specifically, using metrics showing that 80% of persons over age 65 as vaccinated, “73% of COVID-19 cases occurred in fully vaccinated individuals.”

Not only that, according to Slide 8, “Breakthrough infection rates five to six months post vaccination are twice as high as three to four months post vaccination.” The waning immunity was observed in both the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna shots.

And — contrary to “official” reports in the media — Slide 12 says it was the VACCINATED driving the high infection numbers during the summer of 2021, as “61% of COVID-19 of COVID-19 hospitalizations occurred in fully vaccinated individuals in the week of July 24 alone.

The study concluded that the jabs are more effective at preventing hospitalization than infection, and that “prior COVID-19 infection has a major protective effect against breakthrough hospitalization.” The study was done by the Defense Department’s Project Salus.


These are the Project Salus slides, see the last slide:

 

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From the Mercola blog today - see the last paragraph:

A leaked Department of Defense slide show presentation that was quickly removed from the internet, but has been preserved in archives and on private websites shows that the shots are not meeting experts’ expectations.

Using hospitalization records from 5.6 million Medicare beneficiaries who were fully vaccinated, the researchers found that 148,000 fully vaccinated individuals age 65 and older came down with COVID anyway; 30,000 were hospitalized in an intensive care unit and 9,400 were admitted to an intensive care unit. The death rate was 2.2%.

In the slide show, authors point out that the vaccine effectiveness against infection and hospitalization “is lower than reported in smaller studies.” Specifically, using metrics showing that 80% of persons over age 65 as vaccinated, “73% of COVID-19 cases occurred in fully vaccinated individuals.”

Not only that, according to Slide 8, “Breakthrough infection rates five to six months post vaccination are twice as high as three to four months post vaccination.” The waning immunity was observed in both the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna shots.

And — contrary to “official” reports in the media — Slide 12 says it was the VACCINATED driving the high infection numbers during the summer of 2021, as “61% of COVID-19 of COVID-19 hospitalizations occurred in fully vaccinated individuals in the week of July 24 alone.

The study concluded that the jabs are more effective at preventing hospitalization than infection, and that “prior COVID-19 infection has a major protective effect against breakthrough hospitalization.” The study was done by the Defense Department’s Project Salus.


These are the Project Salus slides, see the last slide:

WoW...good article. Can never hide the truth. It always comes out.
 

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Tangentially...
>The results of the current study corroborate the findings of an earlier serologic study which showed that adults who had received the IPV had increasing titers of anti-polio RdRp (3Dpol) antibodies that were cross-reactive with the SARS-CoV-2 RdRp protein. If confirmed by a randomized controlled trial, this could mean a valid replacement of expensive mRNA and adenovirus vector vaccines with the much less costly and shelf-stable IPV for the prevention of COVID-19.https://www.news-medical.net/news/20211010/Inactivated-polio-vaccine-induces-antibodies-that-block-SARS-CoV-2-RNA-synthesis.aspx?fbclid=IwAR1Q9sl-OMFohu7TAb94KmUau4U65O23-E_Xn8mUMitxYBmUepoCNMu7c4U
 

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Brownstone now lists 81 research studies showing natural immunity is equal to or greater than Covid shot immunity, and here is a summary from the CHD of each of the studies:

 

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Brownstone now lists 81 research studies showing natural immunity is equal to or greater than Covid shot immunity, and here is a summary from the CHD of each of the studies:

Hey thanks for posting this! I was going to but got caught up in work and never circled back.
 

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Conclusions​

The only studies that make the vaccines look better than natural immunity are the vaccine trials, and a surface reading of the US delta study. Reading the US delta study carefully makes natural immunity begin to show its superiority as delta fully takes over. Every other study clearly shows that older natural immunity is equal to or superior to more recent vaccination. When natural infections and vaccinations occur at the same time in a fully delta-dominant environment, natural immunity appears to be superior. In the younger population of Israel it seems to be wildly superior to the Pfizer vaccine. In by far the largest study covering the entirety of Israel, old natural infection is every bit as good as recent vaccination against infection, symptomatic illness, and hospitalization.

The only reason we can't say that about death is because only one single person died of a second infection in the whole of Israel!

To answer the questions at the beginning:

  • Does someone with natural immunity need to get vaccinated to obtain equal immunity to the vaccinated around them?
Definitely not. Their immunity at worst is just as good.

  • Will they get even better immunity if they add vaccination?
They might, but the studies conflict.

  • Can I decide who to fire from their job, who to keep out of the gym, and who to keep out of the restaurant by considering people with natural immunity dangerous unless they've been vaccinated?
Definitely not! If anything is obvious pseudoscience, it is this.

These data show that simply having an antibody test or a previous PCR test is enough to show that, even when your infection is way older than someone else's vaccination, it is equal to or better in its protection. Not allowing a mere anti-nucleocapsid antibody test or any record of any positive PCR test to serve as equal proof of immunity to a vaccination card is scientifically unjustifiable.
 

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Conclusions​

The only studies that make the vaccines look better than natural immunity are the vaccine trials, and a surface reading of the US delta study. Reading the US delta study carefully makes natural immunity begin to show its superiority as delta fully takes over. Every other study clearly shows that older natural immunity is equal to or superior to more recent vaccination. When natural infections and vaccinations occur at the same time in a fully delta-dominant environment, natural immunity appears to be superior. In the younger population of Israel it seems to be wildly superior to the Pfizer vaccine. In by far the largest study covering the entirety of Israel, old natural infection is every bit as good as recent vaccination against infection, symptomatic illness, and hospitalization.

The only reason we can't say that about death is because only one single person died of a second infection in the whole of Israel!

To answer the questions at the beginning:

  • Does someone with natural immunity need to get vaccinated to obtain equal immunity to the vaccinated around them?
Definitely not. Their immunity at worst is just as good.

  • Will they get even better immunity if they add vaccination?
They might, but the studies conflict.

  • Can I decide who to fire from their job, who to keep out of the gym, and who to keep out of the restaurant by considering people with natural immunity dangerous unless they've been vaccinated?
Definitely not! If anything is obvious pseudoscience, it is this.

These data show that simply having an antibody test or a previous PCR test is enough to show that, even when your infection is way older than someone else's vaccination, it is equal to or better in its protection. Not allowing a mere anti-nucleocapsid antibody test or any record of any positive PCR test to serve as equal proof of immunity to a vaccination card is scientifically unjustifiable.
Nice.
 

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In response to a FOIA request, the CDC admitted that as of Oct. 19, 2021 it had no studies showing that natural immunity is inferior to vaxx immunity. Text of the FOIA request and response in here:

 
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