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Portuguese Court Rules PCR Tests As Unreliable & Unlawful To Quarantine People

"The court stated, the test’s reliability depends on the number of cycles used and the viral load present. Citing Jaafar et al. 2020, the court concludes that

“if someone is tested by PCR as positive when a threshold of 35 cycles or higher is used (as is the rule in most laboratories in Europe and the US), the probability that said person is infected is less than 3%, and the probability that said result is a false positive is 97%.”

This case concerned the fact that four people had been quarantined by the Regional Health Authority. Of these, one had tested positive for COVID using a PCR test; the other three were deemed to have undergone a high risk of exposure. Consequently, the Regional Health Authority decided that all four were infectious and a health hazard, which required that they go into isolation."
Portuguese Court Rules PCR Tests As Unreliable & Unlawful To Quarantine People | GreatGameIndia

Hopefully, this will unfold new precedents!
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Documento oficial:
La Libertas dei requérants,
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1t1...6wep2gffqrRESK9Mv-_u2AjK4c8ZFWxBVllWIRAQpAPBo

Hey @Amazoniac look how they write formalmente like us.


@MatheusPN , the two judges of Tribunal da Relação are being subject to disciplinary action by their seniors at the Supreme Court. This goes to show how strong a narrative is being pushed. In Portugal, doctors are turning against doctors and judges are turning against judges. This level of conflict within our most powerful corporations is unprecedented, as far as I know.
 

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Germany is getting worse. There were mandatory masks for the entire city of Düsseldorf, even outside. A man succesfully sued against it, and the mandate was dropped www.tagesschau.de/regional/nordrheinwestfalen/duesseldorf-maskenpflicht-urteil-101~amp.html
Some good news, but they are now trying to adjust the mandate, I guess it will be like in Berlin were only certain streets are affected.

Meanwhile the German government just succesfully killed our constitution and can now legally withdraw civil rights basically at will (with the PCR fraud) or at least every flu season Neues Infektionsschutzgesetz: Demokratie im Schnelldurchlauf..
 
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I dont understand tho, the spikes in deaths and spikes in positive cases have risen in synchronicity, how can this be explained if people believe the virus isnt real or that the tests are unreliable?
 
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@MatheusPN , the two judges of Tribunal da Relação are being subject to disciplinary action by their seniors at the Supreme Court. This goes to show how strong a narrative is being pushed. In Portugal, doctors are turning against doctors and judges are turning against judges. This level of conflict within our most powerful corporations is unprecedented, as far as I know.

Is your supreme court principally neoliberal/ neocon or what?
Did you perceive any correlation between the principal prominent sides?
It seems that your conflict has lots of different sides! I hope so

BTW, vaccination in your nation is unconstitutional

Are you conscious that now Portugal is a colony? Your State doesn't have autonomy in the economy, it gets constantly screwed by Germany and its also controlled by imperialists Now we are the colony of the USA, primarily :/
A NATO E A DIGNIDADE NACIONAL PERDIDA

The socialist party collaborated with the CIA after the 74' coup to deter communism, its symbols were the raised fist (lead by Rockefellers, revolution color)...

Also, Portugal stole Venezuela's money and benefited from it...

Curiosity: In Brasil I at least, rarely see any Portuguese content, only when searching for rare cars here to buy, so do you ppl get mostly Brasiliano content when you search?

Fernando Negro (@BlackFerdyPT) Tweeted:
@AnaGomesMEP Disgusting, is that a party like PS impersonates as a defender of Democracia, when it is controlado by the Clube Bilderberg - who had Nazis as membros, fundado in 1954 with nazi gold, criador of "IV Reich" that even censura books in Portugal: https://t.co/5aPw9ZNhzr https://twitter.com/BlackFerdyPT/status/1111999410425286656?s=20

Yanis Varoufakis (@yanisvaroufakis) Tweeted:
@isaac_abraham @asp_net Exceto that I have answered your questão completamente, eg in Adultos in the Room. If the austeridade imposta on Grecia had also been imposta on Ireland and Portugal, these two countries would have been in the same mess as Greece. See diagram https://t.co/gxnVXH01Nh https://twitter.com/yanisvaroufakis/status/1064494390595457024?s=20

David Ferreira (@Igualitarista) Tweeted:
@MissPavIichenko Amilcar Cabral: Portugal is a semi-colony of the UK, US, & other countries & doesn't have the estrutura econômica to praticar neo-colonialismo https://twitter.com/Igualitarista/status/913090876028661760?s=20

David Ferreira (@Igualitarista) Tweeted:
Nkrumah, Cabral & Cunhal compreenderão that Portugal, while colonizando & carrying out the war, was a neo-colonia of US, UK, Germany, France etc https://twitter.com/Igualitarista/status/912570730512048128?s=20
 
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I dont understand tho, the spikes in deaths and spikes in positive cases have risen in synchronicity

Why do you believe that?

Coronavirus Pandemic (COVID-19) – the data
daily-covid-cases-deaths (3).png


Nothing is happenig. It's a mass psychosis induced by billionaires and politicians through the news.
 
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Im being constantly blocked, I even created a Romanian/ Dutch Account!?
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Bolsonaro: Neoliberal, Trump's drooling egg, permitiu more heavy pesticidas, suporta dictatorship and genocidio, is a classical raça supremacista. He is part of the Centrão (people without ideologia, who come together to beneficiar themselves, corrupção). e.e
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Are you saying that when person gets diagnosed with an unreliable test and out of purpose, another dies?
PCR SECT:twisted:
Right after I put :twisted: I was being constantly blocked

It seems I can't quote, reply ppl in another way look at me right there @IMatheusEU hahaha
 
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I cant explain whats happening in my state then, im not claiming it is real, i just need help comprehending different opinions and explanations

This is how those graphs look when you put them in direct relation to one another:

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Apart from that it still holds almost no information. The number of cases has no meaning if you don't put them into the context of how many got tested (and where).
[and the second rise in cases after the first drop to near zero has no connection to deaths. Deaths are actually declining during that rise in cases.]
 
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This is how those graphs look when you put them in direct relation to one another:

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Apart from that it still holds almost no information. The number of cases has no meaning if you don't put them into the context of how many got tested (and where).
There is a large spike in deaths tho. Wether u look at the world, michigan or the US theres more deaths this year than previously. Do u have an explanation for that? Like do u believe the virus is real and just far less deadly? Or do u think that its the treatment that killed them?
 

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There is a large spike in deaths tho. Wether u look at the world, michigan or the US theres more deaths this year than previously. Do u have an explanation for that? Like do u believe the virus is real and just far less deadly? Or do u think that its the treatment that killed them?

Looking at the whole year, Germany, Greece, Sweden, Croatia, Hungary, Denmark, Slovenia, South Korea, etc., etc., etc., so far have no excess deaths this year compared to the last 5 years.

Some of those countries have an excess only for the month right when the lockdown was announced Excess mortality during the Coronavirus pandemic (COVID-19).

From the BMJ
Covid-19: “Staggering number” of extra deaths in community is not explained by covid-19

"Only a third of the excess deaths seen in the community in England and Wales can be explained by covid-19, new data have shown."
...
"Of those 30 000, only 10 000 have had covid-19 specified on the death certificate. While Spiegelhalter acknowledged that some of these “excess deaths” might be the result of underdiagnosis, “the huge number of unexplained extra deaths in homes and care homes is extraordinary. When we look back . . . this rise in non-covid extra deaths outside the hospital is something I hope will be given really severe attention.”

He added that many of these deaths would be among people “who may well have lived longer if they had managed to get to hospital.”"

This report by DG Rancourt is excellent. He points out some interesting things looking at All Cause Mortality during the so called COVID 19 "Pandemic."

(PDF) All-cause mortality during COVID-19: No plague and a likely signature of mass homicide by government response

"The latest data of all-cause mortality by week does not show a winter-burden mortality that is statistically larger than for past winters. There was no plague. However, a sharp "COVID peak" is present in the data, for several jurisdictions in Europe and the USA.

This all-cause-mortality "COVID peak" has unique characteristics:

• Its sharpness, with a full-width at half-maximum of only approximately 4 weeks;
Its lateness in the infectious-season cycle, surging after week-11 of 2020, which is unprecedented for any large sharp-peak feature;
• The synchronicity of the onset of its surge, across continents, and immediately following the WHO declaration of the pandemic; and
• Its USA state-to-state absence or presence for the same viral ecology on the same territory, being correlated with nursing home events and government actions rather than any known viral strain discernment."

As Rancourt points out, this late season peak is completely unprecedented in 50 years of data, as is the synchronicity of it showing up in several regions not close geographically in the slightest.

This pretty much sums it up-

"I postulate that the “COVID peak” represents an accelerated mass homicide of immunevulnerable individuals, and individuals made more immune-vulnerable, by government and institutional actions, rather than being an epidemiological signature of a novel virus, irrespective of the degree to which the virus is novel from the perspective of viral speciation."

Looks like more numbers have been added to the 21st Century "Democide" list.

20th Century Democide

Here is the author being interviewed-

CONFIRMED! The Absolute SCIENCE Behind MASKS And The PROOF THAT THEY DON_T WORK with Denis Rancourt!

https://www.texasstateofmind.org/uploads/whitepapers/COVID-MHSUDImpacts.pdf
"The current COVID-19 pandemic itself and the economic impact of mitigation efforts imposed to control it are both expected to result in direct increases in rates of mental health and substance use disorders (MHSUD), including deaths associated with suicide, overdose, and violence (especially domestic violence)."

"I. Projected Increases in Deaths from Suicide
Using data from many countries and different recessionary periods, researchers have consistently found that reduced per capita GDP and associated rises in unemployment are directly associated with increases in suicide. It is also important to keep in mind that, for every person who dies from suicide, many more experience suicidal thoughts and even more experience MHSUD associated with suicide, especially depression. Based on U.S. state-level data from 1997 to 2010, which includes the 2007–2009 recession, each percentage point increase in the unemployment rate results in a 1.6% increase in the suicide rate. MMHPI estimates that a COVID recession on par with the 2007–2009 recession (in which U.S. workers experienced a 5% increase in unemployment) would result in the loss of a nearly 4,000 additional Americans per year to suicide because of unemployment alone. To the extent that this relationship is linear, with each additional percentage point increase in the rate of unemployment, approximately 775 more Americans would be lost to suicide. If the unemployment rate were to increase by 20%, just exceeding the 23% unemployment rate during the Great Depression, MMHPI estimates that approximately 18,000 more Americans could die from suicide."

"II. Projected Increases in Deaths Due to Overdose and Substance Use Disorders Increases in unemployment rates are also associated with increased rates of substance use disorders (SUD) and overdose deaths. Brown and Wehby19 used state-level data from 1999 to 2014 to estimate the association between unemployment and drug overdose-related deaths. They found that each one percentage point increase in unemployment was associated with an increase of 0.334 overdose deaths per 100,000 people.20 Using this effect size, each 5% increase in unemployment would result in an additional 5,500 overdose-related deaths across the U.S. per year. If the unemployment rate increases by 20%, MMHPI estimates that more than 22,000 Americans could lose their lives from drug overdoses related to unemployment alone."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ughly-1-000-percent/5eaae16c602ff15fb0021568/
"Text messages to the federal government’s disaster distress hotline increased by more than 1,000 percent in April — a month most Americans spent under lockdown because of the novel coronavirus.
Quarantined Americans are seeking help for domestic violence, mental illness and substance abuse at higher rates than normal. Dozens of states and locally run distress hotlines have reported sizable increases in call volume. Sales of alcohol are surging. Nearly half of Americans sheltering in place have reported a worsening of their mental health."

KFF Health Tracking Poll – Early April 2020: The Impact Of Coronavirus On Life In America
"People are also increasingly reporting that coronavirus is having a negative effect on their mental health. More than four in ten adults overall (45%) feel that worry and stress related to coronavirus has had a negative impact on their mental health, up from 32% in early March."

"About one in five (19%) say it is has had a “major impact” including about one-fourth of women (24%), Hispanic adults (24%), and black adults (24%). Large shares across demographic groups report that worry or stress related to coronavirus has had a negative impact on their mental health."


We all know what stress does to our health and especially to already compromised people.

Medium.com | Questions for Lockdown Apologists

„We now have mortality data for the first few months of 2020 for many countries, and, as you might expect, there were steep increases associated with the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic in each one.

Surprisingly, however, these increases did not begin before the lockdowns were imposed, but after. Moreover, in almost every case, they began immediately after. Often, mortality numbers were on a downward trend before suddenly reversing course after lockdowns were decreed.“


If that does not make people think twice about what they hear (or don't, when it comes to Sweden) on TV, then I don't know what will.
Sweden: death rate 2010-2020 | Statista
And here is a nice graphic already posted on Reddit and generating a lot of controversy there, showing daily new COVID-19 deaths (per million) the (lack of) excess death in Sweden to some other EU countries as well as the US.
https://i.redd.it/gzv67r948ty51.jpg

The moment I see ANY of the MSM outlets discuss these stats or the graph, I will regain my convidence in the political process :):

@Drareg @boris @Regina @tankasnowgod @Giraffe
 

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Looking at the whole year, Germany, Greece, Sweden, Croatia, Hungary, Denmark, Slovenia, South Korea, etc., etc., etc., so far have no excess deaths this year compared to the last 5 years.

Some of those countries have an excess only for the month right when the lockdown was announced Excess mortality during the Coronavirus pandemic (COVID-19).
Thanks for holding my hand!
Now im more confident in what i believe is going on, i already suspected this was the case but you showed me a lot of the research before i had to waste time reinventing your wheel.
 

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@Cloudhands here is Ray Peat talking about what is going on with excess mortality specifically about the US:

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Like do u believe the virus is real and just far less deadly?

Yes, coronaviruses have always been with us. If you look at the mortality rate, for people under 70 it's less deadly than the common flu CNN: Covid-19 Death Rate Is Under 1% For Everyone But People Over 70

Or do u think that its the treatment that killed them?

That played a role too. Especially in the beginning when they were killing much more people with invasive ventilation. A hospital in Germany has 0% mortality rate because they don't do the mechanical ventilation.

Thankfully many doctors in the trenches have come forward about this.
Special Report: As virus advances, doctors rethink rush to ventilate .....But they are still doing it.
 

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Portuguese Court Rules PCR Tests As Unreliable & Unlawful To Quarantine People

"The court stated, the test’s reliability depends on the number of cycles used and the viral load present. Citing Jaafar et al. 2020, the court concludes that

“if someone is tested by PCR as positive when a threshold of 35 cycles or higher is used (as is the rule in most laboratories in Europe and the US), the probability that said person is infected is less than 3%, and the probability that said result is a false positive is 97%.”

This case concerned the fact that four people had been quarantined by the Regional Health Authority. Of these, one had tested positive for COVID using a PCR test; the other three were deemed to have undergone a high risk of exposure. Consequently, the Regional Health Authority decided that all four were infectious and a health hazard, which required that they go into isolation."
Portuguese Court Rules PCR Tests As Unreliable & Unlawful To Quarantine People | GreatGameIndia

Hopefully, this will unfold new precedents!
@Drareg @haidut @tankasnowgod @Giraffe @Regina @boris @ddjd @bzmazu @yerrag @lvysaur Feel the Mediterranean warmth ;)
Radiating the Atlantic!

This is good to see.
The ruling class are clearly using covid at this point for social engineering.
 

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Is your supreme court principally neoliberal/ neocon or what?
Did you perceive any correlation between the principal prominent sides?
It seems that your conflict has lots of different sides! I hope so

BTW, vaccination in your nation is unconstitutional

Are you conscious that now Portugal is a colony? Your State doesn't have autonomy in the economy, it gets constantly screwed by Germany and its also controlled by imperialists Now we are the colony of the USA, primarily :/
A NATO E A DIGNIDADE NACIONAL PERDIDA

The socialist party collaborated with the CIA after the 74' coup to deter communism, its symbols were the raised fist (lead by Rockefellers, revolution color)...

Also, Portugal stole Venezuela's money and benefited from it...

Curiosity: In Brasil I at least, rarely see any Portuguese content, only when searching for rare cars here to buy, so do you ppl get mostly Brasiliano content when you search?

Fernando Negro (@BlackFerdyPT) Tweeted:
@AnaGomesMEP Disgusting, is that a party like PS impersonates as a defender of Democracia, when it is controlado by the Clube Bilderberg - who had Nazis as membros, fundado in 1954 with nazi gold, criador of "IV Reich" that even censura books in Portugal: https://t.co/5aPw9ZNhzr https://twitter.com/BlackFerdyPT/status/1111999410425286656?s=20

Yanis Varoufakis (@yanisvaroufakis) Tweeted:
@isaac_abraham @asp_net Exceto that I have answered your questão completamente, eg in Adultos in the Room. If the austeridade imposta on Grecia had also been imposta on Ireland and Portugal, these two countries would have been in the same mess as Greece. See diagram https://t.co/gxnVXH01Nh https://twitter.com/yanisvaroufakis/status/1064494390595457024?s=20

David Ferreira (@Igualitarista) Tweeted:
@MissPavIichenko Amilcar Cabral: Portugal is a semi-colony of the UK, US, & other countries & doesn't have the estrutura econômica to praticar neo-colonialismo https://twitter.com/Igualitarista/status/913090876028661760?s=20

David Ferreira (@Igualitarista) Tweeted:
Nkrumah, Cabral & Cunhal compreenderão that Portugal, while colonizando & carrying out the war, was a neo-colonia of US, UK, Germany, France etc https://twitter.com/Igualitarista/status/912570730512048128?s=20

No one would safely claim that any of our courts has an obvious political bent. Or maybe I'm naive, but I don't think so. Our Constitutional Court has prevented the worse in our austerity years; and the Supreme Court has a history of revising questionable decisions. At this point, though, anyone who questions the consensus on CoV, a consensus in which the Socialists in office have the support of a Social Democrat President, will be sanctioned. How much of this (also or mostly) involves Masonic quarrels, I can't really tell.

As for Portugal being a colony, please refrain from any vindictive rethoric. Plus, if we have little sovereignity left, I blame no one but our politicians, who gorged on EU funds, destroyed reputed banking institutions and sold major assets to China. The EU was both friend and foe to us. As for China...

We are too small and peripheral a country to survive without allies. Had the PIIGS organized properly, we might be better off.
 
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As for Portugal being a colony, please refrain from any vindictive rethoric.
Why would you say to me refrain from any Vindictive rethoric? I was being clearly willing to bring helpful insights. Most ppl I known here would like to go to some Mediterranean/ latin country besides USA. Some of my favorite countries are Espanha/ Greece and Portugal, especially before the covid cult.
Unfortunately, I only see a minority, mostly Bolsominions, who somewhat dislike China, but most dislike the China government, not the people.

It's just a reality, my country had sovereignty before dictatorship which occured thanks to the CIA and Zionists. Yours, the economy is dictated by unelected and foreign people, same as in most countries.
The actual Portugal government, side, sided with the Franco fascist regime since before the beginning of the WW2. The Partido Socialista, sides with the CIA against the real socialists.
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"The government of the Portuguese Republic had an idea about something as simple as the criteria for defining electricity charges, but it has to ask for authorization from bodies not elected in Brussels in order to put it into practice ... Or not."
"None of this: the real Portuguese State Budget for 2020 or any other year will be the one with the final stamp of the Brussels Eurocrats."

"It was a fascist government that introduced Portugal to NATO".
"The invasion and occupation are the work of NATO, an alliance of which Portugal is a member, with troops involved in the conflict."
 
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