¡Português Rules PCR Unreliable!

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    Portuguese Court Rules PCR Tests As Unreliable & Unlawful To Quarantine People

    "The court stated, the test’s reliability depends on the number of cycles used and the viral load present. Citing Jaafar et al. 2020, the court concludes that

    “if someone is tested by PCR as positive when a threshold of 35 cycles or higher is used (as is the rule in most laboratories in Europe and the US), the probability that said person is infected is less than 3%, and the probability that said result is a false positive is 97%.”

    This case concerned the fact that four people had been quarantined by the Regional Health Authority. Of these, one had tested positive for COVID using a PCR test; the other three were deemed to have undergone a high risk of exposure. Consequently, the Regional Health Authority decided that all four were infectious and a health hazard, which required that they go into isolation."
    Portuguese Court Rules PCR Tests As Unreliable & Unlawful To Quarantine People | GreatGameIndia

    Hopefully, this will unfold new precedents!
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    @MatheusPN , the two judges of Tribunal da Relação are being subject to disciplinary action by their seniors at the Supreme Court. This goes to show how strong a narrative is being pushed. In Portugal, doctors are turning against doctors and judges are turning against judges. This level of conflict within our most powerful corporations is unprecedented, as far as I know.
     
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    Germany is getting worse. There were mandatory masks for the entire city of Düsseldorf, even outside. A man succesfully sued against it, and the mandate was dropped www.tagesschau.de/regional/nordrheinwestfalen/duesseldorf-maskenpflicht-urteil-101~amp.html
    Some good news, but they are now trying to adjust the mandate, I guess it will be like in Berlin were only certain streets are affected.

    Meanwhile the German government just succesfully killed our constitution and can now legally withdraw civil rights basically at will (with the PCR fraud) or at least every flu season Neues Infektionsschutzgesetz: Demokratie im Schnelldurchlauf..
     
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    I dont understand tho, the spikes in deaths and spikes in positive cases have risen in synchronicity, how can this be explained if people believe the virus isnt real or that the tests are unreliable?
     
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    BTW I cant post nor edit. While seeing other ppl posting e.e
    Is your supreme court principally neoliberal/ neocon or what?
    Did you perceive any correlation between the principal prominent sides?
    It seems that your conflict has lots of different sides! I hope so

    BTW, vaccination in your nation is unconstitutional

    Are you conscious that now Portugal is a colony? Your State doesn't have autonomy in the economy, it gets constantly screwed by Germany and its also controlled by imperialists Now we are the colony of the USA, primarily :/
    A NATO E A DIGNIDADE NACIONAL PERDIDA

    The socialist party collaborated with the CIA after the 74' coup to deter communism, its symbols were the raised fist (lead by Rockefellers, revolution color)...

    Also, Portugal stole Venezuela's money and benefited from it...

    Curiosity: In Brasil I at least, rarely see any Portuguese content, only when searching for rare cars here to buy, so do you ppl get mostly Brasiliano content when you search?

    Fernando Negro (@BlackFerdyPT) Tweeted:
    @AnaGomesMEP Disgusting, is that a party like PS impersonates as a defender of Democracia, when it is controlado by the Clube Bilderberg - who had Nazis as membros, fundado in 1954 with nazi gold, criador of "IV Reich" that even censura books in Portugal: https://t.co/5aPw9ZNhzr https://twitter.com/BlackFerdyPT/status/1111999410425286656?s=20

    Yanis Varoufakis (@yanisvaroufakis) Tweeted:
    @isaac_abraham @asp_net Exceto that I have answered your questão completamente, eg in Adultos in the Room. If the austeridade imposta on Grecia had also been imposta on Ireland and Portugal, these two countries would have been in the same mess as Greece. See diagram https://t.co/gxnVXH01Nh https://twitter.com/yanisvaroufakis/status/1064494390595457024?s=20

    David Ferreira (@Igualitarista) Tweeted:
    @MissPavIichenko Amilcar Cabral: Portugal is a semi-colony of the UK, US, & other countries & doesn't have the estrutura econômica to praticar neo-colonialismo https://twitter.com/Igualitarista/status/913090876028661760?s=20

    David Ferreira (@Igualitarista) Tweeted:
    Nkrumah, Cabral & Cunhal compreenderão that Portugal, while colonizando & carrying out the war, was a neo-colonia of US, UK, Germany, France etc https://twitter.com/Igualitarista/status/912570730512048128?s=20
     
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    Why do you believe that?

    Coronavirus Pandemic (COVID-19) – the data
    daily-covid-cases-deaths (3).png

    Nothing is happenig. It's a mass psychosis induced by billionaires and politicians through the news.
     
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    Im being constantly blocked. This firewall is very good! I had to create another account! MatheusPN here! @charlie @Blossom
     
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    Im being constantly blocked, I even created a Romanian/ Dutch Account!?
    @Roni123@
    Bolsonaro: Neoliberal, Trump's drooling egg, permitiu more heavy pesticidas, suporta dictatorship and genocidio, is a classical raça supremacista. He is part of the Centrão (people without ideologia, who come together to beneficiar themselves, corrupção). e.e
    @Cloudhands
    Are you saying that when person gets diagnosed with an unreliable test and out of purpose, another dies?
    PCR SECT:twisted:
    Right after I put :twisted: I was being constantly blocked

    It seems I can't quote, reply ppl in another way look at me right there @IMatheusEU hahaha
     
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    I cant explain whats happening in my state then, im not claiming it is real, i just need help comprehending different opinions and explanations
     

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    This is how those graphs look when you put them in direct relation to one another:

    cd.jpg

    Apart from that it still holds almost no information. The number of cases has no meaning if you don't put them into the context of how many got tested (and where).
    [and the second rise in cases after the first drop to near zero has no connection to deaths. Deaths are actually declining during that rise in cases.]
     
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    There is a large spike in deaths tho. Wether u look at the world, michigan or the US theres more deaths this year than previously. Do u have an explanation for that? Like do u believe the virus is real and just far less deadly? Or do u think that its the treatment that killed them?
     
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    Looking at the whole year, Germany, Greece, Sweden, Croatia, Hungary, Denmark, Slovenia, South Korea, etc., etc., etc., so far have no excess deaths this year compared to the last 5 years.

    Some of those countries have an excess only for the month right when the lockdown was announced Excess mortality during the Coronavirus pandemic (COVID-19).

     
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    Thanks for holding my hand!
    Now im more confident in what i believe is going on, i already suspected this was the case but you showed me a lot of the research before i had to waste time reinventing your wheel.
     
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    @Cloudhands here is Ray Peat talking about what is going on with excess mortality specifically about the US:

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    19:01
     
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    Yes, coronaviruses have always been with us. If you look at the mortality rate, for people under 70 it's less deadly than the common flu CNN: Covid-19 Death Rate Is Under 1% For Everyone But People Over 70

    That played a role too. Especially in the beginning when they were killing much more people with invasive ventilation. A hospital in Germany has 0% mortality rate because they don't do the mechanical ventilation.

    Thankfully many doctors in the trenches have come forward about this.
    Special Report: As virus advances, doctors rethink rush to ventilate .....But they are still doing it.
     
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    This is good to see.
    The ruling class are clearly using covid at this point for social engineering.
     
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    No one would safely claim that any of our courts has an obvious political bent. Or maybe I'm naive, but I don't think so. Our Constitutional Court has prevented the worse in our austerity years; and the Supreme Court has a history of revising questionable decisions. At this point, though, anyone who questions the consensus on CoV, a consensus in which the Socialists in office have the support of a Social Democrat President, will be sanctioned. How much of this (also or mostly) involves Masonic quarrels, I can't really tell.

    As for Portugal being a colony, please refrain from any vindictive rethoric. Plus, if we have little sovereignity left, I blame no one but our politicians, who gorged on EU funds, destroyed reputed banking institutions and sold major assets to China. The EU was both friend and foe to us. As for China...

    We are too small and peripheral a country to survive without allies. Had the PIIGS organized properly, we might be better off.
     
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    Why would you say to me refrain from any Vindictive rethoric? I was being clearly willing to bring helpful insights. Most ppl I known here would like to go to some Mediterranean/ latin country besides USA. Some of my favorite countries are Espanha/ Greece and Portugal, especially before the covid cult.
    Unfortunately, I only see a minority, mostly Bolsominions, who somewhat dislike China, but most dislike the China government, not the people.

    It's just a reality, my country had sovereignty before dictatorship which occured thanks to the CIA and Zionists. Yours, the economy is dictated by unelected and foreign people, same as in most countries.
    The actual Portugal government, side, sided with the Franco fascist regime since before the beginning of the WW2. The Partido Socialista, sides with the CIA against the real socialists.
    [​IMG]
    "The government of the Portuguese Republic had an idea about something as simple as the criteria for defining electricity charges, but it has to ask for authorization from bodies not elected in Brussels in order to put it into practice ... Or not."
    "None of this: the real Portuguese State Budget for 2020 or any other year will be the one with the final stamp of the Brussels Eurocrats."

    "It was a fascist government that introduced Portugal to NATO".
    "The invasion and occupation are the work of NATO, an alliance of which Portugal is a member, with troops involved in the conflict."
     
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