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Polyunsaturated Fats Offer You Absolutely Nothing Except...

charlie

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:hattip Eric

"Polyunsaturated fats offer you absolutely nothing except an earlier grave. If you doubt that, go to the autopsies done among the Bantu, among the Japanese and you will find that their arteriosclerosis before the age of thirty is far greater than it is on the American diet, or on the Austrian diet, very similar to ours. This is a fake. Polyunsaturated fats, when this story is finally written is going to make Watergate look like a church social. This is a lie that has been forced on the public."
-Broda Barnes
 

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Re: Polyunsaturated Fats Offer You Absolutely Nothing Except

I liked further quotes here. The tone is so plainspoken and passionate.
 

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Wow, just wow.
 

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I thought about this, deeply, and got physically ill. :cry:
 

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Very nice find, guys!
I've wondered:
did Selye have a diet plan--other than PUFA avoidance?
I've heard a lot about Selye from Peat, but never anything about any dietary ideas he may've had.
 
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narouz, how do you know Selye was a PUFA avoider?
 

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j. said:
narouz, how do you know Selye was a PUFA avoider?

j.-
Go to the link Dan provided above. :)
 
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Narouz, I don't think Selye is mentioned there.
 

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j. said:
Narouz, I don't think Selye is mentioned there.

Oh, sorry: brain unplugged again. :oops:
I meant Barnes.

(But...I've wondered this about both Barnes and Selye.)
 
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Selye made the important conceptualization of stress. I'm not sure he had that much time to figure out how regular foods affect it.

Broda Barnes was against PUFAs, although I don't know if he went as far as Peat in avoiding it. However, it seems he preferred starch over sugar. It'd be interesting to know if Barnes

-knew the protective effects of salicylic acid against PUFA release
-was opposed to eating raw vegetables, especially thyroid enemies
-probably didn't eat soy, right?
-was aware of the importance of eating a large amount of protein to convert t4 to t3.
-was aware of the importance of keeping a calcium and phosphate balance that favors calcium
-probably wasn't aware of the benefits of the raw carrot
 

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All other "bad" things are bad in conjunction with PUFAs. Estrogen with PUFAS is harmful, radiation with PUFAS is harmful, etc.

Soy wasn't fashionable back then....
 

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Jenn said:
All other "bad" things are bad in conjunction with PUFAs. Estrogen with PUFAS is harmful, radiation with PUFAS is harmful, etc.

Soy wasn't fashionable back then....

And then some things that maybe aren't intrinsically too bad
ARE bad with PUFA.
I'm thinking of exercise.
It kind of surprised me that Peat said
if someone who has very little stored PUFA exercises stressfully
they should recover quickly.
Likely not so with a person with high stored PUFA.
 

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Polyunsaturated Fats Offer You Absolutely Nothing Except...

Save money on food?

Just had to throw that out there. :P
 

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LOL...except even "cheap" food is not as cheap as you think it is. Just yesterday I was looking at a grocery store ad and said, I wish we ate crap food, it's cheaper. My son said, only $.79 but it would only last 2 hours and you would still be hungry.

For about $.20 I can make a plate of fries that nourishes and heals and satisfies.
 

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LOL... I was thinking more of the bad old days when I used to maintain my weight on 1200 calories a day.

But that works too.
 

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That's a legitimate point. Slow metabolism equals less food.

We cured my son's hollow leg though. He eats a lot less, he's actually using it now, instead of it just passing through.
 

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Charlie said:
:hattip Eric

"Polyunsaturated fats offer you absolutely nothing except an earlier grave. If you doubt that, go to the autopsies done among the Bantu, among the Japanese and you will find that their arteriosclerosis before the age of thirty is far greater than it is on the American diet, or on the Austrian diet, very similar to ours. This is a fake. Polyunsaturated fats, when this story is finally written is going to make Watergate look like a church social. This is a lie that has been forced on the public."
-Broda Barnes


This is a great quote. But the scandal is that "they" (whoever you think best fits the "they" is) have got away with it, haven't they?

My wife and I are of the opinion that the medical establishment quietly re-write history every few years to pretend that they never said what they actually did say. One example was the advice to place babies on their fronts, before it was realised that this led to an increase in cot-deaths.

Pretty soon they'll be trying to convince us all that they didn't condemn saturated fats at every possible opportunity.
 

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montmorency said:
the medical establishment quietly re-write history every few years to pretend that they never said what they actually did say.

Very Orwellian.
 

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