PM Trudeau announces vaccine mandate for federal employees

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"The evidence is absolutely clear, that vaccines are safe, they prevent the spread of covid-19, they significantly reduce the severity of cases, and most importantly they save lives. They also allow our businesses and workplaces and schools to re-open, and to stay open."

Of the 6 points she made, I think only 1 is provably true.

1) Vaxxes are "safe":
a) Vaccines kill 2 for every 3 saved
"...Result: The NNTV is between 200–700 to prevent one case of COVID-19 for the mRNA vaccine marketed by Pfizer, while the NNTV to prevent one death is between 9000 and 50,000 (95% confidence interval), with 16,000 as a point estimate. The number of cases experiencing adverse reactions has been reported to be 700 per 100,000 vaccinations. Currently, we see 16 serious side effects per 100,000 vaccinations, and the number of fatal side effects is at 4.11/100,000 vaccinations. For three deaths prevented by vaccination we have to accept two inflicted by vaccination."

b) COVID-19 vaccines may cause 82%+ miscarriage rate

2) Vaxxes are "effective":
a) Outbreak of SARS-CoV-2 Infections, including COVID-19 ...
"In July 2021, following multiple large public events in a Barnstable County, Massachusetts, town, 469 COVID-19 cases were identified among Massachusetts residents who had traveled to the town during July 3–17; 346 (74%) occurred in fully vaccinated persons. Testing identified the Delta variant in 90% of specimens from 133 patients."

b) Having SARS-CoV-2 confers MUCH stronger immunity than vaccines, and it may last a lifetime
"Results SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. The increased risk was significant (P<0.001) for symptomatic disease as well."

3) Vaxxes "prevent the spread of covid-19":
[simple google search, first link]
"There's no evidence that any of the current Covid-19 vaccines can completely stop people from being infected – and this has implications for our prospects of achieving herd immunity."

4) Vaxxes "significantly reduce the severity of cases" -> likely true, if they don't cause harm first.

5) Vaxxes "most importantly, [..] save lives.":

6) Vaxxes "allow our businesses and workplaces and schools to re-open, and stay open".
No, the government does that, by instilling and acting under the delusion that vaccines create and are the only means of bodily safety.

a) CDC lowers PCR CT count and diagnostic guidelines ONLY for the vaccinated
"...As reported by Daniel Horowitz at Blaze Media, the new CDC guidance for “COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough case investigation” – meaning people who tested positive after getting vaccinated – says PCR tests should be set at 28 CT or lower. The stated reason for the 28 CT maximum is to avoid false positives on people who have been vaccinated, which would discourage acceptance of the vaccines. This is another example of ‘following the science’ only when it suits a political purpose; to wit, CDC is not recommending the lower threshold for anyone else being tested. False positives must be avoided to encourage vaccinations, but false positives to prevent children from attending school or maintain other government restrictions seem OK with CDC. Last summer, the New York Times reported that CTs above 34 almost never detect live virus but most often, dead nucleotides that are not contagious. The Sentinel found that many private labs in Kansas used thresholds of 38 and 40, and another one in Lenexa potentially at 45. The state lab at the Kansas Department of Health initially used a 42 CT on its most commonly performed test; on January 7, they reduced it to 35."
"...Horowitz quotes former New York Times reporter Alex Berenson as saying a standard of 28 CT applied to the general testing regime would preclude as many as 90% of cases from being recorded."

b) In Denmark, covid measures are being removed, despite incidence figures more than tripling between July and August:
"Denmark’s SSI infectious diseases agency said it no longer relied on vaccination to achieve herd immunity in the country. Tyra Grove Krause, the SSI’s acting academic director, said a new wave of infections were expected after people return to work and school at the end of this summer, but it should not be cause for alarm. “It will be more reminiscent of the flu,” Krause said."

c) Lockdowns in Canada are responsible for 3 in 4 excess deaths reported betwee Jan 2020 and Apr 2021:
"This represents 5,535 more deaths than expected were there no pandemic, after accounting for changes in the population such as aging. Over the same period, 1,380 COVID-19 deaths have been attributed to the same age group (those younger than 65), suggesting that the excess mortality is, in large part, related to other factors such as increases in the number deaths attributed to causes associated with substance use and misuse, including unintentional (accidental) poisonings and diseases and conditions related to alcohol consumption."

d) In Germany, 80+% of deaths were mis-reported as COVID-19:
"We found that a good 80 percent of officially reported deaths from covid since early July had their original infection more than 5 weeks ago, and therefore it should be assumed that the coronavirus was not the actual cause of death."

Another hoax Ive heard is that the vaccine is the only suitable remedy for the covid infection.

Shoutout to @haidut as reference for most if not all of the above
 
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"The evidence is absolutely clear, that vaccines are safe, they prevent the spread of covid-19, they significantly reduce the severity of cases, and most importantly they save lives. They also allow our businesses and workplaces and schools to re-open, and to stay open."

Of the 6 points she made, I think only 1 is provably true.

1) Vaxxes are "safe":
a) Vaccines kill 2 for every 3 saved
"...Result: The NNTV is between 200–700 to prevent one case of COVID-19 for the mRNA vaccine marketed by Pfizer, while the NNTV to prevent one death is between 9000 and 50,000 (95% confidence interval), with 16,000 as a point estimate. The number of cases experiencing adverse reactions has been reported to be 700 per 100,000 vaccinations. Currently, we see 16 serious side effects per 100,000 vaccinations, and the number of fatal side effects is at 4.11/100,000 vaccinations. For three deaths prevented by vaccination we have to accept two inflicted by vaccination."

b) COVID-19 vaccines may cause 82%+ miscarriage rate

2) Vaxxes are "effective":
a) Outbreak of SARS-CoV-2 Infections, including COVID-19 ...
"In July 2021, following multiple large public events in a Barnstable County, Massachusetts, town, 469 COVID-19 cases were identified among Massachusetts residents who had traveled to the town during July 3–17; 346 (74%) occurred in fully vaccinated persons. Testing identified the Delta variant in 90% of specimens from 133 patients."

b) Having SARS-CoV-2 confers MUCH stronger immunity than vaccines, and it may last a lifetime
"Results SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. The increased risk was significant (P<0.001) for symptomatic disease as well."

3) Vaxxes "prevent the spread of covid-19":
[simple google search, first link]
"There's no evidence that any of the current Covid-19 vaccines can completely stop people from being infected – and this has implications for our prospects of achieving herd immunity."

4) Vaxxes "significantly reduce the severity of cases" -> likely true, if they don't cause harm first.

5) Vaxxes "most importantly, [..] save lives.":

6) Vaxxes "allow our businesses and workplaces and schools to re-open, and stay open".
No, the government does that, by instilling and acting under the delusion that vaccines create and are the only means of bodily safety.

a) CDC lowers PCR CT count and diagnostic guidelines ONLY for the vaccinated
"...As reported by Daniel Horowitz at Blaze Media, the new CDC guidance for “COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough case investigation” – meaning people who tested positive after getting vaccinated – says PCR tests should be set at 28 CT or lower. The stated reason for the 28 CT maximum is to avoid false positives on people who have been vaccinated, which would discourage acceptance of the vaccines. This is another example of ‘following the science’ only when it suits a political purpose; to wit, CDC is not recommending the lower threshold for anyone else being tested. False positives must be avoided to encourage vaccinations, but false positives to prevent children from attending school or maintain other government restrictions seem OK with CDC. Last summer, the New York Times reported that CTs above 34 almost never detect live virus but most often, dead nucleotides that are not contagious. The Sentinel found that many private labs in Kansas used thresholds of 38 and 40, and another one in Lenexa potentially at 45. The state lab at the Kansas Department of Health initially used a 42 CT on its most commonly performed test; on January 7, they reduced it to 35."
"...Horowitz quotes former New York Times reporter Alex Berenson as saying a standard of 28 CT applied to the general testing regime would preclude as many as 90% of cases from being recorded."

b) In Denmark, covid measures are being removed, despite incidence figures more than tripling between July and August:
"Denmark’s SSI infectious diseases agency said it no longer relied on vaccination to achieve herd immunity in the country. Tyra Grove Krause, the SSI’s acting academic director, said a new wave of infections were expected after people return to work and school at the end of this summer, but it should not be cause for alarm. “It will be more reminiscent of the flu,” Krause said."

c) Lockdowns in Canada are responsible for 3 in 4 excess deaths reported betwee Jan 2020 and Apr 2021:
"This represents 5,535 more deaths than expected were there no pandemic, after accounting for changes in the population such as aging. Over the same period, 1,380 COVID-19 deaths have been attributed to the same age group (those younger than 65), suggesting that the excess mortality is, in large part, related to other factors such as increases in the number deaths attributed to causes associated with substance use and misuse, including unintentional (accidental) poisonings and diseases and conditions related to alcohol consumption."

d) In Germany, 80+% of deaths were mis-reported as COVID-19:
"We found that a good 80 percent of officially reported deaths from covid since early July had their original infection more than 5 weeks ago, and therefore it should be assumed that the coronavirus was not the actual cause of death."

Another hoax Ive heard is that the vaccine is the only suitable remedy for the covid infection.

Shoutout to @haidut as reference for most if not all of the above

Thanks for putting this together. I will be sending this thread to people who challenge me with one or more of these claims they heard on MSM. It looks like Trudeau Jr. is in fact a much more twisted and tyrannical version of his father. Come to think of it, it is not just Canada - for most Western countries life has been in decline since the 1950s...as Peat also said in one recent podcast.
 

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Thanks for putting this together. I will be sending this thread to people who challenge me with one or more of these claims they heard on MSM. It looks like Trudeau Jr. is in fact a much more twisted and tyrannical version of his father. Come to think of it, it is not just Canada - for most Western countries life has been in decline since the 1950s...as Peat also said in one recent podcast.
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They have no respect for people, I suspect this is because of diplomatic immunity, they have been advised to feign ignorance if the narrative breaks down, it’s so obvious it’s a fraud, they have armies of shills but this can only take them so far, it’s clear from the election results he’s not wanted.

The working class need to revolt, the people gaining from this are the billionaires and their management class, national are being ruined by these clowns, this is what total detachment looks like, pure megalomania, another example for the history books.
 

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They have no respect for people, I suspect this is because of diplomatic immunity, they have been advised to feign ignorance if the narrative breaks down, it’s so obvious it’s a fraud, they have armies of shills but this can only take them so far, it’s clear from the election results he’s not wanted.

The working class need to revolt, the people gaining from this are the billionaires and their management class, national are being ruined by these clowns, this is what total detachment looks like, pure megalomania, another example for the history books.
I think they are pushing for the gene therapies so hard so that no one will be healthy enough to fight back against them. If you notice the push for the military, police, first responders, and healthcare worker’s to be fully treated.
It’s either that or they are trying to cut their payroll.
It is possible that this could lead to a real riot type situation or worse.

 

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A good question @jamies33. I think one might be able to find out, not by looking at personal financials but perhaps at the WE charity, a question of contention brought up by the second inquiry into Mr Trudeau. Watch this beautiful dance around the questions.

View: https://youtu.be/8bGVNPw9R8o

Ive seen this, I went on a Polievre binge a few weeks ago. This isnt the only time Mr. Trudeau has danced around answering questions
 

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Ive seen this, I went on a Polievre binge a few weeks ago. This isnt the only time Mr. Trudeau has danced around answering questions

Honestly what does it even matter? He's the PM, he's at the head of things, and the ignorant masses don't care.

I knew back in 2015 we were ****88. I overheard multiple times in coffee shops some chicks saying 'oh he's cute I'll vote for him'.

Six years later and ignorance has turned to totalitarianism over the flu.

We really do get the leaders we deserve...
 
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Thanks for putting this together. I will be sending this thread to people who challenge me with one or more of these claims they heard on MSM. It looks like Trudeau Jr. is in fact a much more twisted and tyrannical version of his father. Come to think of it, it is not just Canada - for most Western countries life has been in decline since the 1950s...as Peat also said in one recent podcast.
Trudeau is a pshyco...
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I think they are pushing for the gene therapies so hard so that no one will be healthy enough to fight back against them. If you notice the push for the military, police, first responders, and healthcare worker’s to be fully treated.
It’s either that or they are trying to cut their payroll.
It is possible that this could lead to a real riot type situation or worse.

I agree, people are sick of western leaders and elites everywhere, the corruption is the real pandemic, in Australia a politician was receiving 60 million from pfizer, to be fair another politician called her out, there is still some good people within the institutions, they were on board for the initial vaccines but continual vaccines is not going to be bought by the public.
Their hubris is nauseating.
 

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Well said. Unfortunately I think he was ritually abused as a child so it would explain why he is....
he came out of the womb of a woman who was likely run through by most of the rolling stones, fidel castro, and probably dozens, hundreds of other degenerates . anyone would be traumatized after that
 

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Canada will be world leading in both cancer deaths and deaths resulting from cardiovascular problems no less than 2 years from now.
 

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he came out of the womb of a woman who was likely run through by most of the rolling stones, fidel castro, and probably dozens, hundreds of other degenerates . anyone would be traumatized after that
A woman who have had the LEAST sexual partners is the best woman, biological speaking.
 

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