People Who Have Been Unmotivated And Turned It Around, What Helped?

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  1. ImprovingDaily

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    From a food/supplement/hormone perspective, what helped? I'm inclining towards it being related to dopamine and androgens, but I'm open to new ideas.
     
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    Anti serotonin and dopaminergic drugs. Ample rest and good nutrition. A few herbs and hormones.
     
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    What kind of herbs and hormones? I'm having success with DHEA lately as long as I keep the estrogen in check
     
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    Beef soup is critical. Everything else doesn’t work well unless I’m well-nourished first. Then things like alcohol, coffee, marijuana, etc... all push me in whatever directions I feel appropriate at the time.

    If I’m unmotivated I just accept that I’ve eaten poorly, and I’ll mope around until my digestion has reset and I can eat again to fix it. Drugs, supplements, herbs, whatever, all help, but the true nourishment, energy, ground work, comes from the food.
     
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    Beef soup in particular?
     
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    yea regular meat just won’t cut it. The salty broth with all the vegetables, salt, and fats mixed in is a whole different experience. My recipe is 85/15 ground beef, onions, tomatoes, spinach, green onions, salt, Chile pepper, water.

    edit: forgot the mushrooms!!!! White button of course.... dabble with the psilocybe if you’d like...but at your own risk!!!
     
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    Coffee, chocolate, Siberian ginaeng, cistanche and palm pollen. Thyroid glanduar, t3 and pansterone. Cyproheptadine, lisuride, adamantane and taurine. Gut has to be fixed first for optimal digestion. I founf cyprohepradine an adamantane profoundly fixes any gut issues. Lastly, eat fo nurishment and enjoyment.
     
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    Whilst you specifically asked for advice from a food/supplement, the biggest help for me was making the following lifestyle changes:
    • Limit Phone use, uninstall social media (maintain whatsapp to chat/organize with friends)
    • Pack away desktop computer, get it out for specific tasks
    • stop playing videogames completely
    • absolutely no screen use after 8pm
    These were chosen to limit screen usage and improve sleep quality as my eyes were getting progressively sore (Work necessitates 8 hours of screen usage a day).

    I found myself quite grumpy, and misanthropic on the first few days but this subsided. Afterwards I found my motivation to exercise, socialise and Paint/Draw was drastically increased and it became much easier incorporating these into a daily routine. My propensity for procrastination was also markedly reduced.

    Last September I decided to play the Re-release of Classic WoW (I know, I know) for nostalgia purposes. Within a week I could feel myself regressing to my former state, so quickly unsubscribed before I got too far into that rabbit hole.
     
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    Raising body temperature.
     
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    Lot of helpful advice on here. Raising metabolism has an enormous impact. I have performed much better at work since finding Peat. It's honestly been almost night and day. I was significantly under fed before which was perhaps the bigger issue. Since finding Peat and learning more about thyroid optimization, my drive and focus have continued to improve. Good luck.
     
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    Come on! Sugar, honey, orange juice, apple juice, but mainly white sugar, and cut back on the fats, especially pufa and mufa (olive oil). Drink a lot of orange juice.
     
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    Sugar does not work for everyone! I crash with too much sugar. I'm now think I'm protein deficient since whenever I up them I feel better.
     
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    Energy, depending on what your body runs off of currently the macros will be different. Slowly transition to carbs if possible.
    Maoi-Bs as in He Shou Wu help to create manic motivation. 5ht3 inhibitors like ondansetron help to prevent helplessness(not laziness, more like giving up). Dopaminergics sans something to stop it from breaking down will give quick ups and long downs.
    Protein is also key
     
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    Sounds delicious! I think I'll make a broth sometime this week and see how it makes me feel. Beef always makes me feel pretty good and solid.
     
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    Thanks! Great suggestions. I think I'm dealing with a gut issue and cypro and adamantane are 2 of my favorites, can't be a coincedence.
     
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    Whenever I have a lazy Sunday all by myself I take a drop or two of lisuride and get super motivated for a few hours . I write lists organize stuff, remember to do things that I always procrastinate.
    And helps to think outside the box and think about your life in general . I really like at as a once per month thing :)
     
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    I'd argue it's the only thing that matters.
    Uninstalling apps from your phone? Cmon guys, we know better. Anything that is done forcefully is bound to failure and frustration.
    You don't need to kill procrastination, you need to find something that drives you enough.
    I always laugh at these self improvement routines like morning rituals. Used to fall for them, silly.
     
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    Just throw it all together and boil it? Or do you pan fry the beef and/or veggies first? If you could explain the steps that would be sincerely appreciated. :)
     
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    I agree. That's why I asked for foods/and supplements and other things as such. Rituals and habits have never given me the results that some of these pro metabolic substances have.

    No amount of rituals or habits makes me feel like a nice dose of t3, nothing makes me feel like Progesterone does. I appreciate some of the habit advice though.
    I enjoy Lisuride too. It got a bit expensive for me so I stopped. I wish I had the disposable money to buy it more often or that it was cheaper.
     
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