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Pansterone - Liquid Dietary Supplement For Rejuvenation

Discussion in 'IdeaLabs' started by haidut, Aug 4, 2015.

  1. japanesedude

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    I understand.
    However,my dmso ver Pansterone will finished soon so I'll order the new one !
     
  2. Iron Man

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    I haven't been able to find these reports. Google doesn't bring anything up when I do a search
     
  3. Wagner83

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    This is something I have been curious about as goat dairy products can can make me feel nice but give me bad backne. I can't see backne as something positive, and you suggested estrogenic metabolites of dhea could be blamed for acne related issues (and hair loss), have you changed your mind on acne in the back being a sign high androgenicity? If not what studies are your thoughts based on?
     
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    I have never seen a single person with high DHT and acne. If anything, it is the opposite. Using T or DHEA gives people acne but using DHT does not. Whatever the direct cause of acne, estrogen is involved and DHT is not. There are plenty of studies on that.
     
  5. japanesedude

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    I got itchy shoulder and acne from Pansterone.
    Is it a sign of excess Estrogen?
     
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    Haidut....With the Pansterone I got a lot of energy and libido for about 2 weeks. (5-6 drops over the day). But then got very estrogenic: cranky, irritable.

    At the same time my prostate started acting up, BPH.

    I suspected the DHEA, so I bought some and took a very small dose, 2-3 Mgs and my prostate blew up immediately.

    So it was the DHEA. Is this what you mean by the "negative feedback loop" for DHEA?

    I have very high stress (two traumas incl. a TBI that's still kicking up symptoms from decades ago). Basically, I'm totally sapped of energy all the time. Cannot get energy into my system.

    I"m thinking of going for the Gonadin or the DHP, especially the DHP since you write on that thread that it avoids the DHEA negative feedback loop. (If that's what this problem is).

    Any thoughts?
     
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    haidut

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    I would do blood test for DHEA before supplementing anything that contains it. If DHEA levels are normal taking additional can turn into estrogen rather quickly. The irritability can also be from allopregnanolone conversion.
    Gonadin would probably be safer to try first as whatever hormonal effects it has should come form the stimulation of the endogenous synthesis vs. delivering preformed hormones directly info the system.
     
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    Haidut do you know the difference between dhea and dhea sulfate blood tests? Dhea is three times more expensive than dhea-s so wondered if dhea-s has any use at all?
     
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    Both have use. DHEA is the one that matters to the cells and DHEA-S is the long term storage, which reflects adrenal production and reserves. You want both to be in good range, even though technically it is only the DHEA one that matters to the cells.
     
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    Any suggestions or tips on how to squeeze out the MCT Pansterone? The drops practically stopped coming out. Doesn't matter if I push gently or apply more pressure, the contents seems to be stuck for some reason. I would also like to ask if it is necessary to shake MCT Pansterone before use?
     
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    Paper clip works very well.
     
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    As JSaute suggested, paperclip works very well. We will also dilute the mixture on the next batch so that it is more liquid and does not get stuck in the dropper.
     
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