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Marhaba komshu,So I have been supplementing high dose B1 for 2 days. Today, a hour ago I drink only "100-120" mL of Orange Juice. And my heart is pounding like crazy. There is something wrong. This amount of potassium shouldn't be a problem for me. I'm taking 200 mg magnesium now.
Marhaba komshu,
You mentiodned before, that after eating anything, the problem gets worse (pounding heart) correct?
If so, I had exactly the same symptom years ago. Any meal, and I get 120-140 bpm.
Had no idea back then what causes it, now Am almost sure it,s postprandial endotoxemia.
Simply put, you may have bad bacteria. In that case, it probably has nothing to do with potassium.
I,d suggest also, think before you spent your hard earned Liras on thiamine. It did nothing to me even in massive doses. Rule out LPS poisoning first and then think what to do next.
don't really want to blame excipients...
Best place to find stories like that to get ideas would be ME/CFS pheonix rising forums, a lot of people there supplemented potassium as part of Freddd's protocol. People had problems with B1 there in relation to it, I didn't do great, but highly anecdotal and afaik did not always match the research. If you had a way at home/pharmacy to check blood pressure when you do this it might give another clue, but it's not a lot to go on though I don't have the memory atm to connect it to your past. (You mentioned adrenaline and that's not off either, something might be triggering that like the renin system)
Ascourgic acid is probably more beneficial for you at this point than thiamide in isolation.
Eating problematic foods in a car is an interesting trick.
How much were you consuming from foods and what product did you use? You'd need substantial amounts of it from diet to make a difference in a stressed state and there are some people who report nasty reactions to industrial supplements.Vitamin C doesn't do anything. I also tried supplementing it.
I'm not sure what you mean, but you can find people being drawn to recording them trying new foods, discussing serious topics or reflecting on life in cars.Is this is an applicable method?
Have you logged your food intake of a week and posted somewhere? Can be just nutrients. Not that it's something missing in the diet, but it may guide others' suggestions.I'm getting worse 'so' rapidly. Today morning I got awake early because I got belly ache from hunger. That scraping feeling in your belly when you are hungry and energy deficient, i mean that. I guess I really became diabetic and this just keeps getting worse day by day. Thiamine didn't do much to be honest. I still feel same after 200 mg.
If you combine that with an immune-suppressing corticosteroid it sounds like a therapy strong enough to permanently shift a microbiome, do gut damage in the process. But other changes inevitably happens through gene expression, liver burden, kidneys, HPA. But surely the wrong microbiome is enough to drive constant sympathetic activation and again angiotensin.We report that the most widely used antidepressant, fluoxetine, which is an SSRI-type drug, results in the selective depletion of gut microbiota, specifically the Lactobacilli which are involved in the regulation of body weight. Concomitantly, fluoxetine administration increases the abundance of phylotypes related to dysbiosis. Since Lactobacilli have been previously shown to possess a known biogenic amine transporter that regulates the uptake of fluoxetine, it is proposed that a microbial endocrinology-based mechanistic pathway is responsible for the ability of SSRIs to selectively negatively impact beneficial microbiota. The results of this study therefore suggest that the negative clinical side effects due to fluoxetine administration may be due to alterations in gut microbiota. Further, the data also suggests that supplementation of bacterial genera directly affected by fluoxetine administration may prove useful in ameliorating some of the well-known side effects of chronic fluoxetine administration such as weight alterations.
Taking baking soda before drinking the juice should help to prevent gut issues, it has a suppressive effect. Boron can do this as well.@Amazoniac
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Not only supplement but i also tried orange juice. Didn’t get benefit either.
I was using chronometer but give up after seeing that the foods im eating (turkish foods) are not available on the list and it becomes frustruating after a while.
@Terma i won’t be able to see a doctor in anytime soon unfortunately.
I guess endotoxemia really has a role. I got instantly bloated so much after drinking 300 mL orange juice today. Also there were some regional pain, pressure on my lower belly.
A few hours ago i took 300 mg thiamine HCL, 500 mg total for today. I really see no benefit, maybe slightly.
The thing i wonder most is that how it all started? Only a few days of 10 mg fluoxetine, and i was suffering from excessive sleep accumulation. All the other problems slowly come into appearance and worsened.
@Amazoniac i know that i should make one thread about my case but just too many things happened in this 2 years. I’m far away from what i used to be. My intelligence and cognitive abilities deteoriated too much. I’m at my best right now when writing this and i don’t think i will ever be able to write any long and detailed post again. Im barely writing this post, that’s all i have right now.
My old topic where we talked with @Terma has a lot of info though. Additionaly, i will tell what happened and i learned since:
5 grams of BCAA didn’t improved cognitive synptoms but helped my hyperreactivity of my bowel. It was easier to stay at class and concentrate. Also helped to endure slight cold temperature (18-20 Celcius). One of my symptoms is intolerance to cold.
I stopped BCAA 10 days later because it wasn’t really helping me.
I got a blood test which i posted above. My blood urea is high. Also my ‘urine’ is clear, also i pee a lot i think.
I didn`t.How did you solve your problem?
If you combine that with an immune-suppressing corticosteroid it sounds like a therapy strong enough to permanently shift a microbiome, do gut damage in the process. But other changes inevitably happens through gene expression, liver burden, kidneys, HPA. But surely the wrong microbiome is enough to drive constant sympathetic activation and again angiotensin.
I would not shy away from bloating, you have to persist in a controlled fashion (can't be overwhelming) because that's where the therapeutic potential lies. Eating the foods that you crave, and attempting to increase your tolerance every time, trying to address it indirectly rather than through food elimination.
I do think you probably don't absorb/retain enough magnesium as people are usually taking 500mg oral or more to get pharmacological effects to ensure absorption and people like me seem to need topicals. You should make a plan to get thyroid tests eventually (TSH/T4/T3) and other endocrinology if possible, even if it's not on the table. And yeah BCAA aren't enough.